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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 02:58
Originally posted by Chicapah Chicapah wrote:

Just happened to notice that ten of the top 50 (as voted on by readers and editors) are by prog or prog-related artists/groups.   Big%20smile
 
This is true only because The Clash didn't release another dozen songs of that length.
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Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

I'd like to see them do Top 50 songs 60 seconds or less. That'd be an interesting list.
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Well, Yes, KC, Frank Zappa, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin,Metallica deserve far better company than Oasis, Justin Timberlake, Blur and Green Day.
But from this magazine hard to expect a better list.
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Misread the thread title, so  was going to suggest Goin' Home from Aftermath - but just realised the thread title was singular Rolling Stone, not plural Rolling Stones....Embarrassed
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Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Not the best list.
The real shock for me was Oh Comely.
 
Actually, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea was a widely renowned album. It even received acclaim from many mainstream critics. That surprised me, but while I may not have thought of it as soon as I saw the category, after seeing it I wasn't so surprised.
 
However, it was definitely more surprising than the overall quality (or lack thereof) of the list.


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Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

Well, Yes, KC, Frank Zappa, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin,Metallica deserve far better company than Oasis, Justin Timberlake, Blur and Green Day.
But from this magazine hard to expect a better list.
 
Let's move Metallica and Black Sabbath to the second list.
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Any prog fan with a sense of justice should.
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I like Blur. But "Tender" is one of their most boring songs.

bleh. It's RS, what do you expect.
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I'll allow myself to be a little sharp and say that the Rolling Stone is for people who think that know something about music, but actually don't know sh*t.
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Points: 2779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:58
Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

I'd like to see them do Top 50 songs 60 seconds or less. That'd be an interesting list.
1. Napalm Death 2. Napalm Death 3. Napalm Death

 

Also, the Residents Commercial Album, John Zorn, and Ween.


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Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:


Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:


Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Coming from Rolling Stone, I'm surprised they actually include prog.
I'm sure the magazine was unaware they did this. They probably have ONE rebel editor, that changed some of the "actual results", because we all know that Rolling Stone is too "hip" to intentionally include prog


nah, you guys gotta realize, RS is just a media outlet, they have a bunch of different editors, and while their reviews are often anti-good music, it doesn't mean that they aren't going to be a little more objective with their top lists.
For someone who speaks "in jest" all the time, you sure don't recognize it well Wink(By the way, you can be as objective as you want, but there is no way in hell that Justin Timberlake belongs in that list!)


Oh sh*t, didn't know they put him there..., btw, I answered you seriously because though you were being sarcastic there is some truth to what you said. RS is a product of it's time, a trend, it will die with the baby boomers, prog is timeless.

Actually, my post was meant to be more of a (joking) half-truth; quite a few of their editors (and readers) probably do frown on this type of music (prog).
Anyways, I don't like the magazine either, but I don't believe it's a trend. Like it or not, the mag's been around for 40 years, and it has lasted this long because it continues to change with the times, and always tries to appeal to the teen/young adult age group. I can guarantee RS's core audience is NOT baby-boomers LOL


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Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

I'd like to see them do Top 50 songs 60 seconds or less. That'd be an interesting list.


1. Napalm Death
2. Napalm Death
3. Napalm Death


Haha, I was just thinking "grindcore, grindcore, and grindcore..."
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I'm surprised nothing off of DT's Images and Words is on there, considering how they were actually somewhat known at the time.  "Pull Me Under" would be an easy candidate without tarnishing RS's "popular" reputation.  I'd rather put something from Awake on there, but there are only 2 songs over 7 minutes on there, neither of which are terribly outstanding.

Also, I'm really surprised nothing from Tool is on the list.  A double-platinum album should be popular enough for any music reviewing company, and beyond that, just about everything on "Lateralus" is amazing (in my opinion, at least...).
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Points: 54 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2007 at 22:19
Originally posted by Fight Club Fight Club wrote:

Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

I'd like to see them do Top 50 songs 60 seconds or less. That'd be an interesting list.


1. Napalm Death
2. Napalm Death
3. Napalm Death


Haha, I was just thinking "grindcore, grindcore, and grindcore..."


Diabolical Masquerade divided all its songs up into really small "movements", so they might get on there a few times =P  I'm not much of one for black metal (at all), but they're pretty interesting.
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Originally posted by agProgger agProgger wrote:

I'm surprised nothing off of DT's Images and Words is on there, considering how they were actually somewhat known at the time.  "Pull Me Under" would be an easy candidate without tarnishing RS's "popular" reputation.  I'd rather put something from Awake on there, but there are only 2 songs over 7 minutes on there, neither of which are terribly outstanding.Also, I'm really surprised nothing from Tool is on the list.  A double-platinum album should be popular enough for any music reviewing company, and beyond that, just about everything on "Lateralus" is amazing (in my opinion, at least...).

Yeah, but DT and Tool are so anti-RS, their popularity doesn't equal hipness
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Points: 2779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 00:49
Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:



Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:


Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:


Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Coming from Rolling Stone, I'm surprised they actually include prog.
I'm sure the magazine was unaware they did this. They probably have ONE rebel editor, that changed some of the "actual results", because we all know that Rolling Stone is too "hip" to intentionally include prog


nah, you guys gotta realize, RS is just a media outlet, they have a bunch of different editors, and while their reviews are often anti-good music, it doesn't mean that they aren't going to be a little more objective with their top lists.
For someone who speaks "in jest" all the time, you sure don't recognize it well Wink(By the way, you can be as objective as you want, but there is no way in hell that Justin Timberlake belongs in that list!)


Oh sh*t, didn't know they put him there..., btw, I answered you seriously because though you were being sarcastic there is some truth to what you said. RS is a product of it's time, a trend, it will die with the baby boomers, prog is timeless.
Actually, my post was meant to be more of a (joking) half-truth; quite a few of their editors (and readers) probably do frown on this type of music (prog). Anyways, I don't like the magazine either, but I don't believe it's a trend. Like it or not, the mag's been around for 40 years, and it has lasted this long because it continues to change with the times, and always tries to appeal to the teen/young adult age group. I can guarantee RS's core audience is NOT baby-boomers LOL


40 years isn't timeless. Sure, they'll be around for a while, but the fact that they constantly try to appeal to the new generations is what makes it trendy and not timeless. Something that stays popular isn't necessarily timeless either, there is such a thing as mindless toothless following. When people look back they'll see a petty fickle magazine/website/etc. that has nothing about it that transcends it's era like the best music does. Timeless is something that is what it is and people can look back on it and it still has relevance to them. RS is not this because people who aren't mindless and toothless will see that the magazine changes to stay hip and don't care about what is really good.

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The Rolling Stone is the last place to look for information or anything connected with Prog Rock. And most of the groups you quote are not prog. They are considered prog related in these files ( which are not the prog bible anyway ) and prog related is another way of saying they are nor prog.
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