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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 13:58

 Dream Theater is a progressive metal band.  They do side projects to do the other things that DT is not. I saw them when James was just starting and hardly anybody knew who they were and James was not a good singer then but he has improved greatly.  What DT needs is to stop listening to everybody that thinks they know what DT needs more than they do. DT writes music for thier fans and they don't try to please anybody else. DT needs to keep producing the best progmetal anywhere.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 14:43
A decent drummer or less of the snare drum - but then you were expecting me to say that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 14:44
i'd say another vocalist and some songs that are out of key
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 14:53
Eh? Ah? What...? I'd ask "what doesn't DT need?" Hahaha.......
The best you can is good enough...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 15:10
Originally posted by Lonely Progger Lonely Progger wrote:

I do consider Labrie a but as a musical deadweight ^^, How can you respect a singer who doesn't contribute to the music and doesn't even write the lyrics he sings!
Wow, you must really hate The Who. And Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 15:36
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:


Originally posted by Lonely Progger Lonely Progger wrote:

I do consider Labrie a but as a musical deadweight ^^, How can you respect a singer who doesn't contribute to the music and doesn't even write the lyrics he sings!


Wow, you must really hate The Who. And Rush.


Ah hahahaha. Nice .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 15:46
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Emotion


Ooh....... let's begin with it though. Emotion... a measure-less thing, isn't it?

...I see DT as a band who makes extremely progressive music.... I mean, it seems to me that they took the main parameters (say complexity, for eg.) of prog music one by one and from that basement, they built the stuff, virtuosistic-oriented as prog uses to be. But they seemed to forget how old prog bands assembled all that parameters: with 'emotion'; 'feeling'...... They are that distorted 'cause maybe they've to hide some weakness (musically).... and here plays the metal component. I think so about all metal bands I've listened to.

That was my two cents no more, eh? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:39
Originally posted by Lonely Progger Lonely Progger wrote:

So if you had the 5 members of DT in front of you discussing about their 2009 album what advice would you give them ?
 
#1) Drop the egos.
#2) Drop Rudess
#3) Beg Moore to return
#4) Stop acting like a metal band
#5) Bring Myung out more in the mix
#6) Focus on the music and not the overplaying of it because there is some great melody
#7) Stop pressuring LaBrie sing a certain way.
#8) Adopt a Space Rock element to add to a few songs
#9) Don't let Portnoy sing
#10) Have a sexy girl on the next cover. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:46
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Lonely Progger Lonely Progger wrote:

So if you had the 5 members of DT in front of you discussing about their 2009 album what advice would you give them ?
 
#1) Drop the egos.
#2) Drop Rudess. At least don't make him throw in honky-tonk bits LOL
#3) Beg Moore to return Agree!
#4) Stop acting like a metal band Agree!
#5) Bring Myung out more in the mix Agree! He's awesome but so "behind" the others!
#6) Focus on the music and not the overplaying of it because there is some great melody Agree, stop being like machines and write soulful music without soulless parts.
#7) Stop pressuring LaBrie sing a certain way. huh?
#8) Adopt a Space Rock element to add to a few songs Would be cool Big%20smile
#9) Don't let Portnoy sing Kind of agree
#10) Have a sexy girl on the next cover. LOL ehm...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:52
I think DT have kind of stagnated musically over their last few albums. If they managed to make an album in the vein of their Awake album again that would be much better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 13:48
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

I think DT have kind of stagnated musically over their last few albums. If they managed to make an album in the vein of their Awake album again that would be much better.


That album was just an explosion of musicianship. Some of the best prog-metal guitar and keyboard work. LaBrie was stunning on it too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:10
DT doesn't need anything. As every band that walks the earth (yes, even mighty VDGG or Magma) they sometimes can release music that sucks.
 
DT doesn't need anything. If you don't like DT, or hate DT, or when you're listening to DT feel like there's million things you could change, well...I'll tell you this: DT doesn't need anything. It's YOU who need stop listening to DT, as you obviously don't like their music!
 
It's like I said "What do Sigur Ros need for me to like them?" Well, they need to... turn into a complete different band! LOL 
 
there's some things that can be fixed in some DT songs (or albums, like erase the complete 6DOIT-side ONE) but the band is what it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:11
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


The only problems I have heard of with their current company are distribution and promotion.... not creative control.  Unless I just hadn't hadn't heard of it.. .I haven't checked their fan websites in like..err....ever hahhahah.
 
This guy is Dream Theater's biggest problem. WinkTongueLOL
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:20
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

DT doesn't need anything. If you don't like DT, or hate DT, or when you're listening to DT feel like there's million things you could change, well...I'll tell you this: DT doesn't need anything. It's YOU who need stop listening to DT, as you obviously don't like their music!
 
Miles ahead of you on that. I did not buy Systematic Chaos because it was garbage to me. (Yes I listened to it illegally first....and damn glad I did). It also made some other DT music I did like less enjoyable.
 
Still, I&W and Awake are excellent CDs. I look to what they had present in those releases to identify what I would like to add to or remove from their next offering, as if they would even consider it.
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:27
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
there's some things that can be fixed in some DT songs (or albums, like erase the complete 6DOIT-side ONE) but the band is what it is.
 
Is it really that bad? I'm planning to buy 6DOIT (it's their only album I've never heard a note!). Will it be worth my $$?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:30
Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
there's some things that can be fixed in some DT songs (or albums, like erase the complete 6DOIT-side ONE) but the band is what it is.
 
Is it really that bad? I'm planning to buy 6DOIT (it's their only album I've never heard a note!). Will it be worth my $$?
 
No, go and get it. You see, that's my opinion. If you ask 60% of DT fans, they'll love the first side. I just happen to think it should have been... forgotten and only the title track released. Tongue... But many fans love those 5 songs. It'll be worth your $$$
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:32
Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
there's some things that can be fixed in some DT songs (or albums, like erase the complete 6DOIT-side ONE) but the band is what it is.
 
Is it really that bad? I'm planning to buy 6DOIT (it's their only album I've never heard a note!). Will it be worth my $$?


I think disc one is better than the second disc....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:38
Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
there's some things that can be fixed in some DT songs (or albums, like erase the complete 6DOIT-side ONE) but the band is what it is.
 
Is it really that bad? I'm planning to buy 6DOIT (it's their only album I've never heard a note!). Will it be worth my $$?


I think disc one is better than the second disc....
 
You see what I said Barla? I;'m kind of alone in this one....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:38
What DT needs is less idiot opinions.  Like them or hate them,  they will survive without you. And their true fans will continue to buy and enjoy their albums,  liking some better than others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:47
Originally posted by oroboross oroboross wrote:

What DT needs is less idiot opinions.  Like them or hate them,  they will survive without you. And their true fans will continue to buy and enjoy their albums,  liking some better than others.
 
So much wisdom, it makes me cry...Cry
 
Couldn't have said it better myself
 
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