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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 13:27
Its just as good as any other genre on the archives. If I feel the need to be blown away with sheer talent and precision...I'll listen to this. This genre has been on my priority list lately with bands that I've discovered the past few months like Spastic Ink, Spiral Architect, Sleep Terror, Unexpect, Canvas Solaris, Blotted Science and Behold...The Arctopus.
Dsyrthmia??? and Continuo Renacer (sp???) impressed me as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 14:24
I'm an old guy from the 70s and I think some of these new metal bands are incredible. Its not something I want to listen to a lot, but these artists are definitly "progressing" rock music to new places.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 15:54
Originally posted by FruMp FruMp wrote:

Megadeth and Jarzombek?, hmm hard to see a link...
 
It's not that hard - although it's tenuous (hence the winky).
 
Marty Friedman is the link I had in mind - although there are others.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 18:23
Originally posted by jmcdaniel_ee jmcdaniel_ee wrote:

Between the Buried and Me's album Alaska.  Thumbs%20Up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:01
The one thing that boggles me about this genre is on how to rate it...or think which one is better then which?
I place UnExpect's - In A Flesh Aquarium at the top...5 stars no doubt.

I just listened to Spiral Architect, Aghora, Spastic Ink and Behold the Arctopus (skullgrid..not nano nucleonic,an utter masterpiece ,...all excellent albums...but so hard to choose. They would all fit the 4 star album pool.

It's just so hard to put one over the other, which one sounds better, more technical? ARGHHHH
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:07
I still don't really see difference between the three metal genres. Embarrassed

Personally, I still endorse the idea of very few subgenres, and if there were to be any cuts, lobbing all the metal together would've been a place to start. But it's not a huge deal for me, I can live with any decisions PA maketh.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:46
Just brought Akeldama by The Faceless, on the recommendation from a trusted friend. I don't think I have enjoyed a DM album so much since The Scepter of the Ancients. I see they are on the PM chart, if they get accepted I will be more than willing to add them. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 22:17
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Just brought Akeldama by The Faceless, on the recommendation from a trusted friend. I don't think I have enjoyed a DM album so much since The Scepter of the Ancients. I see they are on the PM chart, if they get accepted I will be more than willing to add them. 
 
I just added them to the chart a few days ago,excellent stuff.
 
I love this kind of music,and their are two bands in this sub that everyone really needs to check out...Coprofago and Theory in Practice.I would recommend Coprofago's Unorthodox Creative Criteria and TiP's album Colonizing the Sun.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2007 at 22:38
Jody I will keep an eye for the two aforementioned albums next time I'm out shopping. I really have not listened to a lot of this music since I was attending school.

I would also like to suggest two Canadian bands. Firstly Martyr, all their studio albums are recommended, I think my favourite would be Warp Zone. The second is Augury, they only have one disc out, but it's definitely worth tracking down. There is a sample on the site to listen to: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12849.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 01:55
How does everyone here feel about the band Gorguts?, I think it's a bit of a travesty that they were rejected from the archives, they'd fit perfectly in this new genre, they are one of the most technical and avant-garde death metal bands out there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 02:45
Originally posted by FruMp FruMp wrote:

How does everyone here feel about the band Gorguts?, I think it's a bit of a travesty that they were rejected from the archives, they'd fit perfectly in this new genre, they are one of the most technical and avant-garde death metal bands out there.
 
Seems like the same kind of thing as technical metal to me - the riffs may be quirky and full of twists - but they're still repeated riffs, and the songs maintain very simple song structures with multi-section bridges. The overall sound is constant and fits into a very tight, easily identifiable narrow spectrum. In this, there's no difference to standard metal - the difference is only in the detail, not the whole.
 
What I've heard of them is not progressive to my ears - and certainly not avant-garde! John Zorn is avant-garde, as are Spastic Ink, to a lesser degree.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:12
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by FruMp FruMp wrote:

How does everyone here feel about the band Gorguts?, I think it's a bit of a travesty that they were rejected from the archives, they'd fit perfectly in this new genre, they are one of the most technical and avant-garde death metal bands out there.
 
Seems like the same kind of thing as technical metal to me - the riffs may be quirky and full of twists - but they're still repeated riffs, and the songs maintain very simple song structures with multi-section bridges. The overall sound is constant and fits into a very tight, easily identifiable narrow spectrum. In this, there's no difference to standard metal - the difference is only in the detail, not the whole.
 
What I've heard of them is not progressive to my ears - and certainly not avant-garde! John Zorn is avant-garde, as are Spastic Ink, to a lesser degree.


1.the advance group in any field, esp. in the visual, literary, or musical arts, whose works are characterized chiefly by unorthodox and experimental methods.


Based on that definition I don't see how they couldn't be considered avant-garde.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:41
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by FruMp FruMp wrote:

How does everyone here feel about the band Gorguts?, I think it's a bit of a travesty that they were rejected from the archives, they'd fit perfectly in this new genre, they are one of the most technical and avant-garde death metal bands out there.

 

Seems like the same kind of thing as technical metal to me - the riffs may be quirky and full of twists - but they're still repeated riffs, and the songs maintain very simple song structures with multi-section bridges. The overall sound is constant and fits into a very tight, easily identifiable narrow spectrum. In this, there's no difference to standard metal - the difference is only in the detail, not the whole.

 

What I've heard of them is not progressive to my ears - and certainly not avant-garde! John Zorn is avant-garde, as are Spastic Ink, to a lesser degree.


Mmm, which Gorguts album(s) have you heard? Obscura? Just wondering.
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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Jody I will keep an eye for the two aforementioned albums next time I'm out shopping. I really have not listened to a lot of this music since I was attending school.

I would also like to suggest two Canadian bands. Firstly Martyr, all their studio albums are recommended, I think my favourite would be Warp Zone. The second is Augury, they only have one disc out, but it's definitely worth tracking down. There is a sample on the site to listen to: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12849.
 
Have you heard Martyr's newest album Feeding the Abscess?I think it is light years ahead of Warp Zone,which is also an excellent album in its own right.
 
Anata is worth checking out too.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:43
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by FruMp FruMp wrote:

How does everyone here feel about the band Gorguts?, I think it's a bit of a travesty that they were rejected from the archives, they'd fit perfectly in this new genre, they are one of the most technical and avant-garde death metal bands out there.

 

Seems like the same kind of thing as technical metal to me - the riffs may be quirky and full of twists - but they're still repeated riffs, and the songs maintain very simple song structures with multi-section bridges. The overall sound is constant and fits into a very tight, easily identifiable narrow spectrum. In this, there's no difference to standard metal - the difference is only in the detail, not the whole.

 

What I've heard of them is not progressive to my ears - and certainly not avant-garde! John Zorn is avant-garde, as are Spastic Ink, to a lesser degree.


Mmm, which Gorguts album(s) have you heard? Obscura? Just wondering.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:46
Funny this thread pops up when I listen to Cynic for the first time.
 
Focus was pretty much awesme, amazing vocals and musicianship, I'm getting the album on monday!!!!
 
Best death album please?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:47
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by jmcdaniel_ee jmcdaniel_ee wrote:

Between the Buried and Me's album Alaska.  Thumbs%20Up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 22:47
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Funny this thread pops up when I listen to Cynic for the first time.
 
Focus was pretty much awesme, amazing vocals and musicianship, I'm getting the album on monday!!!!
 
Best death album please?


Human if you're a death metal fan, symbolic if that's a bit too heavy for you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 00:11
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Have you heard Martyr's newest album Feeding the Abscess?I think it is light years ahead of Warp Zone,which is also an excellent album in its own right.


For me, it's probably more a matter of timing. I listened to Warp Zone a lot back in '02/'03, but when Feeding the Abscess rolled around, my tastes in metal were predominately targeted towards doom (and a bit of black). So in turn it didn't grow on me as much as their previous album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 18:11
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I really dont care how heavy the album is, as long as it's not stupid heavy. THanks Frump
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