When was Family Guy at its best?

Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.

Edited by Kid-A - October 18 2007 at 17:27

I don't like Family Guy. It's just too gratuitously crude for my tastes, and none of the characters seem to have any morally-redeeming qualities. It seems to shock just for the sake of it.

Edited by Peter - October 19 2007 at 08:36

Dalezilla wrote: Plagiarisimo

That's the worst part.

cuncuna wrote: Kid-A wrote: Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate. Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?   How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.   I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV.

Edited by Kid-A - October 19 2007 at 15:41

el böthy wrote: cuncuna wrote: Kid-A wrote: Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate. Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?   How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.   I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong.

The reply posted above to Kid-A answers your questions, I think. I'm not trying to succed at anything, mind you. Just spreading a point of view. Who knows, it might be useful. If not to you, perhaps to someone else. This is all about repect. For example, people her have "Argentinian jokes". I don't know a single one, and I certainly hate the idea. Those jokes serve as a tool to spread hate to inmigrants. Same thing with Peruvian people who lives here. I hope this helps.

Edited by cuncuna - October 20 2007 at 08:34

A swedish comedian once made a tv-show where he wanted to try just how far you could go, how tasteless a joke could be and still have people laugh at it, so he went to a naughty jokes reading and told his joke. The punchline had to be censored even in swedish television, not because of dirty words, but because of the content. Nobodyin the audience  laughed, and many people called him "b*****d" and such names, after and hour of listening to and laughing at some of the most sexist, tasteless and (in my opinion) humourless jokes that you can think of. The joke in itself was indeed terrible, but not really any worse than any else, it was only because it was so blatanyly offensive that the atmosphere in the room totally died.

Child molestation is a very taboo subject, but does that mean that you shouldn't be allowed to make jokes about it at all?

I'm not very fond of the old man in Family Guy, but i truly believe that you have to be able to laugh at even such a thing as child molestation. Not that it is funny in any way, and it must never be the intention to hurt someone by it, but to ignore it or treat it as something we can never make jokes about, i just don't think that is a solution at all.
It's very human to joke about thing we are afraid of, it is a need we have, to make the situation manageable.

So as a means of dealing with the situation, i don't disapprove, but taking advantage of those who may have been hurt just to get laughs, that i do not agree with.

Ok, so i just watched "The Aristocrats". Talk about offensive comedy! : ) Very interested to hear what y'all think of that one, you who have seen it.

The T wrote: el böthy wrote: cuncuna wrote: el böthy wrote: cuncuna wrote: Kid-A wrote: Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate. Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?   How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.   I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong. The reply posted above to Kid-A answers your questions, I think. I'm not trying to succed at anything, mind you. Just spreading a point of view. Who knows, it might be useful. If not to you, perhaps to someone else. This is all about repect. For example, people her have "Argentinian jokes". I don't know a single one, and I certainly hate the idea. Those jokes serve as a tool to spread hate to inmigrants. Same thing with Peruvian people who lives here. I hope this helps. WHats with the Argentinian jokes? What does that have to do with anything?¿   There's nothing like a good argentinian joke........   Laugh at yourselves first, don't be so serious about yourself, then you can laugh at the rest, and we'll get along!

Indeed theres nothing like a good argentinian joke, I just wanted to know what that has to do with anything...
I can laugh at myself... in fact I can laugh at anything really, and if its a bit cruel, then better

I don't know. I think that you can't really laugh at an unpleasant experience unless you've somehow got over it. And to get over it, you first have to experience it. Somehow I don't think there are any paedophilia victims that can laugh at their misfortune, even if they have 'got over it'. And the people who haven't experienced it, why are they laughing? Surely it just shows their total ignorance of the problem.

Having said that, the same probably applies to jokes involving injury, murder or manslaughter, and I rarely have any qualms about laughing at those... although I do believe one should learn to laugh at one's own death, and maybe even at the death of one's beloved.

Let's put it this way - I heard that WWII concentration camp prisoners used to tease one another into handing over their rations to their friends, since they'd be executed the next day anyway and there was no point in having to carry all those extra kilos in dead bodies to the crematorium. I'm sure they actually found this funny.

I would never tell that joke to a concentration camp prisoner.