When was Family Guy at its best?
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Topic: When was Family Guy at its best?
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: When was Family Guy at its best?
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 08:40
Watching Season 1-3 episodes on tv, I realized that what I considered a pretty lazy show aimed to see how far they can get away with not being censored, was a very funny show.
On the flashbacks: Seasons 1-3 makes few, short, and funny (even hilarious) ones. Recently though, they tend to use them as filler and are too based on pop culture references that even If I get them, aren't really funny.
Peter used to be just a dumb guy, but now he's completely retarded and childish to a way that isn't as funny. Stewie used to be the "Pinky and the Brain" influenced evil baby wanting to defeat the "tyranny" of the mother. Now he's gay? Meg used to be the outcast wanting to get attention and had some respect from the family. Now the family frickin abuses her and Peter could even punch her! It's just not funny man.
What happened to family guy? It used to be a pretty funny, satirical, and witty show but now the writing is completely dumb, cliched, lazy, and offensive.
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 08:51
I don't know but what's with that guy who looks like he has his testicles on his chin?
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 08:59
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ooooo hard question.When it first came out it was amazing and they got better then when i went back to the first season and it felt dated.Then i relise every joke was the same and i began to predict the unpredictabilty of it.Basicaly i think its great in small doses.
Anyone seen South Park's Cartoon wars?South Park actually owned Family guy lol
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Posted By: Kaizer_O
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 09:04
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Family Guy got better with each season, imo. The jokes are much more clever nowadays and The-Evil-Genius-Baby-gimmick got old pretty fast.
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 12:23
 Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 12:28
I don't find it funny anymore, I did 4-5 years ago though. It seems recycled, predictable, and just not my type of humor.
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 12:29
Seasons 1-3 BY FAR. The first three seasons were genius. I don't watch the new episodes anymore, I hate what they've done with some of the characters and many episodes have too many flashbacks ("Remember that time I...?" "And that time when...?"). And they kill some of the old jokes from the first three seasons.
Actually Zitro's original post more or less sums up what I think.
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Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 12:30
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I think their best time on air was on South Park.
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 14:40
fungusucantkill wrote:
I think their best time on air was on South Park. |
yeah lol i love that episode
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 00:05
The third season was the best, but the first two for me where the worst (still pretty good) and I really like the new stuff... so I voted for both
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 00:09
Yeah I used to really like it. Now, it's just ok. But the old ones are better than the new ones.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 00:21
Zitro wrote:
Watching Season 1-3 episodes on tv, I realized that what I considered a pretty lazy show aimed to see how far they can get away with not being censored, was a very funny show.
On the flashbacks: Seasons 1-3 makes few, short, and funny (even hilarious) ones. Recently though, they tend to use them as filler and are too based on pop culture references that even If I get them, aren't really funny.
Peter used to be just a dumb guy, but now he's completely retarded and childish to a way that isn't as funny. Stewie used to be the "Pinky and the Brain" influenced evil baby wanting to defeat the "tyranny" of the mother. Now he's gay? Meg used to be the outcast wanting to get attention and had some respect from the family. Now the family frickin abuses her and Peter could even punch her! It's just not funny man.
What happened to family guy? It used to be a pretty funny, satirical, and witty show but now the writing is completely dumb, cliched, lazy, and offensive.
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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actually all what you say I find it to be great... I think I should have voted for the 4 season choice jajajaj
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 02 2007 at 10:16
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 06 2007 at 16:41
TheProgtologist wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace. |
Whats so offensive about him? Personally I think its incredibly funny and only a show like that or South Park can get away with it
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: October 06 2007 at 18:03
I think probably it has something to do with the delivery. If South Park were to do something with a dirty old man pedophile, As tasteless as that is, it would have been done in a somewhat "clever" and funny way. When Family Guy does it, It's just tasteless, unfunny, annoying and gross beyond being funny. I don't even know what the character's name is, But it's the same old disturbing and unfunny joke every episode.
Where South Park is consistently clever, Family Guy falls flat with "I can be more gross and tasteless than you" humor, And this is coming from someone who watches and enjoys Family Guy, albeit cautiously.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 07 2007 at 14:51
Bastille Dude wrote:
I think probably it has something to do with the delivery. If South Park were to do something with a dirty old man pedophile, As tasteless as that is, it would have been done in a somewhat "clever" and funny way. When Family Guy does it, It's just tasteless, unfunny, annoying and gross beyond being funny. I don't even know what the character's name is, But it's the same old disturbing and unfunny joke every episode.
Where South Park is consistently clever, Family Guy falls flat with "I can be more gross and tasteless than you" humor, And this is coming from someone who watches and enjoys Family Guy, albeit cautiously.
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The characters name is Herbert. And there was a pedophile character, in fact a whole association in a South park episode
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 11:15
mrcozdude wrote:
ooooo hard question.When it first came out it was amazing and they got better then when i went back to the first season and it felt dated.Then i relise every joke was the same and i began to predict the unpredictabilty of it.Basicaly i think its great in small doses.
Anyone seen South Park's Cartoon wars?South Park actually owned Family guy lol |
OK, first I like Family Guy just as much now as before...no difference.
As for cartoon wars I found it REALLY stupid. I like South Park but lets face it, Family Guy is more popular and that;s why they hate it. They just kept harping on "Oh, it's jokes are meaningless and random and do nothing to further the plot line" BS and I REALLY didn't get it. They bash Family Guy to no end but I remember one guy in that episode saying something like "I dont really love family guy...but at least it keeps the show fresh and dosnt get all preachy and up its ass with messages" refering to their own show of South Park. So....what the f*ck South Park that made no sense to me
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Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 11:32
I love them all, the darkness of Family Guy is unequalled by any other comedy. The episode where Peter has a prostate examination has to be the best 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 14:21
Actually, season 0, BEOFRE they started airing the program... it rivals season 9, never produced, so no damage ever done...
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 16:28
el böthy wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
I think probably it has something to do with the delivery. If South Park were to do something with a dirty old man pedophile, As tasteless as that is, it would have been done in a somewhat "clever" and funny way. When Family Guy does it, It's just tasteless, unfunny, annoying and gross beyond being funny. I don't even know what the character's name is, But it's the same old disturbing and unfunny joke every episode.
Where South Park is consistently clever, Family Guy falls flat with "I can be more gross and tasteless than you" humor, And this is coming from someone who watches and enjoys Family Guy, albeit cautiously.
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The characters name is Herbert. And there was a pedophile character, in fact a whole association in a South park episode
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I Remember the whole nambla South Park episode, That was pretty damn funny. I heard somewhere that Seth McFarlen was going to be killing off a character in FG, God I hope it's Herbert or whatever his name is.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 16:33
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace. |
Whats so offensive about him? Personally I think its incredibly funny and only a show like that or South Park can get away with it
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I really can't believe you asked that....
I have children,one of them a 10 year old boy,and I don't care what context it is presented in,I don't find ANYTHING funny about pedophilia.If a man acted like that to my boy he would lose his breathing privileges.
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 17:55
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i agree with everyone saying seasons 1-3. i think it was still funny afterwards although it got progressively less funny as time went on and nowadays i don't find it that amusing.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 19:31
TheProgtologist wrote:
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace. |
Whats so offensive about him? Personally I think its incredibly funny and only a show like that or South Park can get away with it
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I really can't believe you asked that....
I have children,one of them a 10 year old boy,and I don't care what context it is presented in,I don't find ANYTHING funny about pedophilia.If a man acted like that to my boy he would lose his breathing privileges. |
That's totally understandable...are you a fan of Quagmire? While they may be 2 pretty different characters, Mr. Quagmire is not exactly a...morally upstanding character.
I'm sorry its just a personal thing with me, because I would get ripped to shreds alot about my sense of humor...while the people who do it love shows like Family Guy that are way more f*cked up.
But I digress, Family Guy rules!
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 00:38
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The first 3 seasons were great, but are so over played now that its hard to enjoy them the same as I used to. The newer seasons started off a bit rough and they were trying to be overly-crude to make up for lost time I guess, but they've gotten back into the groove of great episodes (although the star wars episode was mostly lame). So both have good and bad moments.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 00:48
I think it's a rather lame show. The only good thing about it is that it sucks so much, that lonely people can feel it...
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 00:10
TheProgtologist wrote:
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace. |
Whats so offensive about him? Personally I think its incredibly funny and only a show like that or South Park can get away with it
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I really can't believe you asked that....
I have children,one of them a 10 year old boy,and I don't care what context it is presented in,I don't find ANYTHING funny about pedophilia.If a man acted like that to my boy he would lose his breathing privileges. |
well if anything really happend like in Family Guy I think I would be pretty mad too, but its a comedy, its a place where you can take the bad things of life and give them a twist and have fun about them... or is it that Im really not getting something? Cause it seems you all hate that character and I just cant get whats aoffensive about it... or why you Jody dont get my not getting it... wow, I do speak some goooood english!
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 14 2007 at 01:49
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace. |
Whats so offensive about him? Personally I think its incredibly funny and only a show like that or South Park can get away with it
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I really can't believe you asked that....
I have children,one of them a 10 year old boy,and I don't care what context it is presented in,I don't find ANYTHING funny about pedophilia.If a man acted like that to my boy he would lose his breathing privileges. |
well if anything really happend like in Family Guy I think I would be pretty mad too, but its a comedy, its a place where you can take the bad things of life and give them a twist and have fun about them... or is it that Im really not getting something? Cause it seems you all hate that character and I just cant get whats aoffensive about it... or why you Jody dont get my not getting it... wow, I do speak some goooood english!
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First of all, the show is not funny at all. Those jokes are terrible, at best. That said, not only to writte bad jokes, but to use disgusting motifs on them is something very untasteful and low. If Monty Python can make a 5 minutes skecth using nothing but a phrases about a dead parrot and built a good laugh around it, then there's no excuse: those family guy's writters are just deplorable and boring. On the other hand, Wallace and Gromit's "The wrong trousers" movie... that's funny and clean, jokes are based on nothing more than the good spirit of a good joke, and it is fun for everyone. Paedophilia is a concept that must be eliminated from every possible scenario, and it is certainly something that will never be funny. Now, show some humanity and get it.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 14 2007 at 15:02
cuncuna wrote:
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny.
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Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny.
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I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace. |
Whats so offensive about him? Personally I think its incredibly funny and only a show like that or South Park can get away with it
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I really can't believe you asked that....
I have children,one of them a 10 year old boy,and I don't care what context it is presented in,I don't find ANYTHING funny about pedophilia.If a man acted like that to my boy he would lose his breathing privileges. |
well if anything really happend like in Family Guy I think I would be pretty mad too, but its a comedy, its a place where you can take the bad things of life and give them a twist and have fun about them... or is it that Im really not getting something? Cause it seems you all hate that character and I just cant get whats aoffensive about it... or why you Jody dont get my not getting it... wow, I do speak some goooood english!
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First of all, the show is not funny at all. Those jokes are terrible, at best. That said, not only to writte bad jokes, but to use disgusting motifs on them is something very untasteful and low. If Monty Python can make a 5 minutes skecth using nothing but a phrases about a dead parrot and built a good laugh around it, then there's no excuse: those family guy's writters are just deplorable and boring. On the other hand, Wallace and Gromit's "The wrong trousers" movie... that's funny and clean, jokes are based on nothing more than the good spirit of a good joke, and it is fun for everyone. Paedophilia is a concept that must be eliminated from every possible scenario, and it is certainly something that will never be funny. Now, show some humanity and get it.
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show some humanity?..  ...
ok, first of all, if you hate the show so much, why is it that you continue to post in this thread? Second... I guess we all have different humor, so let me laught with my type, I will let you laught with yours. And that "If x then y" ... c´mon, you know you cant take that as a valid point, not everyone thinks like you, why if Monty Python does certain humor cant there be another type? Just cause they get away with it, doesnt mean that others cant enjoy something else! ... I dont know, that sounds kind of facist to me...
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 14 2007 at 19:18
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I'm with Cuncuna on this one.... I don't see how can anybody laugh with Family Guy.... it's so humourless....
Anyway, I've always been more oriented towards human-comedy.... not even the Simpsons (which are TRULY good) conquered me.....
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 19:46
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
el böthy wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
Zitro wrote:
And don't get me started on the pedophile old man. It's extremely offensive and he's completely overused. You know what the joke would be like so it's predictable and unfunny. |
Totally agree with you there man, I hate that character and it ruins the show for me. Other than the creepy old guy as Obi Wan, The Star Wars episode was pretty gosh darn funny. |
I HATE that character,and think he's extremely offensive.The new season opener,the Star Wars parody,was very good,but his presence in it sort of ruined it for me.
I happen to like the entire run of Family Guy so far.I don't mind the newer shows at all,maybe because I have seen the first three seasons so many times that some new shows were a welcome change of pace. |
Whats so offensive about him? Personally I think its incredibly funny and only a show like that or South Park can get away with it |
I really can't believe you asked that....
I have children,one of them a 10 year old boy,and I don't care what context it is presented in,I don't find ANYTHING funny about pedophilia.If a man acted like that to my boy he would lose his breathing privileges. |
well if anything really happend like in Family Guy I think I would be pretty mad too, but its a comedy, its a place where you can take the bad things of life and give them a twist and have fun about them... or is it that Im really not getting something? Cause it seems you all hate that character and I just cant get whats aoffensive about it... or why you Jody dont get my not getting it... wow, I do speak some goooood english! |
First of all, the show is not funny at all. Those jokes are terrible, at best. That said, not only to writte bad jokes, but to use disgusting motifs on them is something very untasteful and low. If Monty Python can make a 5 minutes skecth using nothing but a phrases about a dead parrot and built a good laugh around it, then there's no excuse: those family guy's writters are just deplorable and boring. On the other hand, Wallace and Gromit's "The wrong trousers" movie... that's funny and clean, jokes are based on nothing more than the good spirit of a good joke, and it is fun for everyone. Paedophilia is a concept that must be eliminated from every possible scenario, and it is certainly something that will never be funny. Now, show some humanity and get it. |
show some humanity?.. ... ok, first of all, if you hate the show so much, why is it that you continue to post in this thread? Second... I guess we all have different humor, so let me laught with my type, I will let you laught with yours. And that "If x then y" ... c´mon, you know you cant take that as a valid point, not everyone thinks like you, why if Monty Python does certain humor cant there be another type? Just cause they get away with it, doesnt mean that others cant enjoy something else! ... I dont know, that sounds kind of facist to me... |
Yes, humanity. Paedophilia is something that must be eliminated from our day to day, not to say, from funny references. First, just imagine being the father of an abused child and end up finding out that certain people thinks it is a funny thing to use in jokes. Second, the jokes are bad. The lack of imagination is beyond reality, and the A, B C examples are meant to be parameters. A real joke is a clever, respectful one. A dirty joke just reveals ugly things about those who laugh at them. Once again, humanity. Choosing uglyness is not a very good idea.
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 18:03
Cuncuna, I can enjoy dark/black humor. Stuff that we shouldn't laugh at but we still may do so. However, I really do agree with you that pedophilia is pushing things too far. In one situation, Family Guy also made a graphic joke of domestic violence and it was completely tasteless
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 20:58
Zitro wrote:
Cuncuna, I can enjoy dark/black humor. Stuff that we shouldn't laugh at but we still may do so. However, I really do agree with you that pedophilia is pushing things too far. In one situation, Family Guy also made a graphic joke of domestic violence and it was completely tasteless |
Tasteless being the main issue, humor being the secondary one. You see, I can enjoy a well thought joke. Everything else seems unappealing. Invader Zim has the best dark jokes you can imagine, with all that doom and jokes on the whole human race. But I dare you to find one single tastless joke on that series. Or an obvious one. We like prog rock, don't we?... well, how about prog jokes as well. Easy is too easy...
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 23:21
Both periods have been equally bad. 
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 23:24
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I fall in with the crowd that prefers the pre-cancellation Family Guy. I guess I'm emotionally dead, cause I find nothing offensive about that show. The old pedophile makes me laugh, at least he did before they ran that right into the ground. I loved the fourth season (the first after they came back), but after that it devolved into self-parody, which isn't good cause it's already a take on The Simpsons.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 00:09
1800iareyay wrote:
I fall in with the crowd that prefers the pre-cancellation Family Guy. I guess I'm emotionally dead, cause I find nothing offensive about that show. The old pedophile makes me laugh, at least he did before they ran that right into the ground. I loved the fourth season (the first after they came back), but after that it devolved into self-parody, which isn't good cause it's already a take on The Simpsons.
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1.- You were a child once.
2.- There are children in the world right now.
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 00:14
cuncuna wrote:
1800iareyay wrote:
I fall in with the crowd that prefers the pre-cancellation Family Guy. I guess I'm emotionally dead, cause I find nothing offensive about that show. The old pedophile makes me laugh, at least he did before they ran that right into the ground. I loved the fourth season (the first after they came back), but after that it devolved into self-parody, which isn't good cause it's already a take on The Simpsons. |
1.- You were a child once.
2.- There are children in the world right now.
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 There are???
I love every episode I've seen of Family Guy, which is probably somewhere around 10. But I haven't seen the pedophile episodes, so I'm not sure what that's all about. On the other hand, there's all kinds of bad  in the world, and if we can't make fun of it, all we can do is take it out behind the shed and put a bullet in the back of its pathetic head.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 00:21
The Doctor wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
1800iareyay wrote:
I fall in with the crowd that prefers the pre-cancellation Family Guy. I guess I'm emotionally dead, cause I find nothing offensive about that show. The old pedophile makes me laugh, at least he did before they ran that right into the ground. I loved the fourth season (the first after they came back), but after that it devolved into self-parody, which isn't good cause it's already a take on The Simpsons. |
1.- You were a child once.
2.- There are children in the world right now.
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There are???
I love every episode I've seen of Family Guy, which is probably somewhere around 10. But I haven't seen the pedophile episodes, so I'm not sure what that's all about. On the other hand, there's all kinds of bad in the world, and if we can't make fun of it, all we can do is take it out behind the shed and put a bullet in the back of its pathetic head. |
Ok, so I won't get the oscar this year... anyway, I'm just trying to say that certain things are not to make fun of. To create any kind of asociation between a really bad thing and having fun can result into validation of unwanted conducts. Plus, there are people who suffers for real because of this. So, just a little heart, please?...
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 18:55
cuncuna wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
1800iareyay wrote:
I fall in with the crowd that prefers the pre-cancellation Family Guy. I guess I'm emotionally dead, cause I find nothing offensive about that show. The old pedophile makes me laugh, at least he did before they ran that right into the ground. I loved the fourth season (the first after they came back), but after that it devolved into self-parody, which isn't good cause it's already a take on The Simpsons. |
1.- You were a child once.
2.- There are children in the world right now.
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There are???
I love every episode I've seen of Family Guy, which is probably somewhere around 10. But I haven't seen the pedophile episodes, so I'm not sure what that's all about. On the other hand, there's all kinds of bad in the world, and if we can't make fun of it, all we can do is take it out behind the shed and put a bullet in the back of its pathetic head. |
Ok, so I won't get the oscar this year... anyway, I'm just trying to say that certain things are not to make fun of. To create any kind of asociation between a really bad thing and having fun can result into validation of unwanted conducts. Plus, there are people who suffers for real because of this. So, just a little heart, please?...
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No
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 11:03
@ Cuncuna
Which isn't to imply that I consider el bothy and other fans of new(er) Family Guy tasteless morons, or anything - it's simply that Cuncuna's heart is in the righter place than theirs and mine, IMO.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 15:02
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
1800iareyay wrote:
I fall in with the crowd that prefers the pre-cancellation Family Guy. I guess I'm emotionally dead, cause I find nothing offensive about that show. The old pedophile makes me laugh, at least he did before they ran that right into the ground. I loved the fourth season (the first after they came back), but after that it devolved into self-parody, which isn't good cause it's already a take on The Simpsons. |
1.- You were a child once.2.- There are children in the world right now. |
There are???
I love every episode I've seen of Family Guy, which is probably somewhere around 10. But I haven't seen the pedophile episodes, so I'm not sure what that's all about. On the other hand, there's all kinds of bad in the world, and if we can't make fun of it, all we can do is take it out behind the shed and put a bullet in the back of its pathetic head. |
Ok, so I won't get the oscar this year... anyway, I'm just trying to say that certain things are not to make fun of. To create any kind of asociation between a really bad thing and having fun can result into validation of unwanted conducts. Plus, there are people who suffers for real because of this. So, just a little heart, please?... |
No |
Ok then; so you choose to laugh at jokes about sexual child abuse / molestation. Good luck with that.
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 17:08
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Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 23:20
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV.
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 08:35
I don't like Family Guy. It's just too gratuitously crude for my tastes, and none of the characters seem to have any morally-redeeming qualities. It seems to shock just for the sake of it.
I much prefer the Simpsons, and Futurama, and Sponge Bob, and Dexter's Lab, and Johnny Bravo, abd Ren and Stimpy, and South Park, and Duck Man, and Bugs Bunny, and Daffy Duck, and Donald Duck, and Goofy, and Yogi Bear, and Huckleberry Hound, and.... 
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Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 08:43
Plagiarisimo 
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 08:50
Dalezilla wrote:
Plagiarisimo |
That's the worst part.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 14:02
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV.
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Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong.
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 15:33
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV.
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First off. I said you were being rediculous, referring to what you said within this thread. Not you are rediculous.
And you've shown me in this thread you are on a moral high horse. You called people who like Family guy inhumane. That sounds pretty much like a moral high horse. I am not saying you are like this in real life and in character. I am just saying what I think you are being in this thread.
Why is comedy not a legitimate context to discuss problems? Especially satirical comedy is a perfectly good context to discuss it. If you think comedy shows such as the Simpsons and Family Guy are just about laughs, you view them very shallowly indeed (although admittedly not so much Family Guy). Comedians have just as much right to express their views on the world in the art as any other artists. Would you have a problem with a musical artist singing about the wrongness of pedophilia? I'm not saying comedy should be the only context of discussion for it, but there is nothing wrong with it.
I didn't say making jokes about millions of Jews being murdered. I said jokes about Hitler, which by the way even John Cleese from Monty Python has made. There is nothing wrong with that.
I am not sure what you mean about speech analysis please explain?
Hey I'll enjoy 'crap' if I want. I bet I would call a lot of what you like 'crap' as well. Just because you doesn't like it doesn't mean it's crap.
And if you find it so boring why post so much on a thread about Family Guy berating people who do like it? The post is called 'When was Family Guy at its best?'. That implies the people this thread is for what is for would like Family Guy at some point. Why come here and call people inhumane for liking the programme?
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 08:24
Kid-A wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. |
First off. I said you were being rediculous, referring to what you said within this thread. Not you are rediculous.
And you've shown me in this thread you are on a moral high horse. You called people who like Family guy inhumane. That sounds pretty much like a moral high horse. I am not saying you are like this in real life and in character. I am just saying what I think you are being in this thread.
Why is comedy not a legitimate context to discuss problems? Especially satirical comedy is a perfectly good context to discuss it. If you think comedy shows such as the Simpsons and Family Guy are just about laughs, you view them very shallowly indeed (although admittedly not so much Family Guy). Comedians have just as much right to express their views on the world in the art as any other artists. Would you have a problem with a musical artist singing about the wrongness of pedophilia? I'm not saying comedy should be the only context of discussion for it, but there is nothing wrong with it.
I didn't say making jokes about millions of Jews being murdered. I said jokes about Hitler, which by the way even John Cleese from Monty Python has made. There is nothing wrong with that.
I am not sure what you mean about speech analysis please explain?
Hey I'll enjoy 'crap' if I want. I bet I would call a lot of what you like 'crap' as well. Just because you doesn't like it doesn't mean it's crap.
And if you find it so boring why post so much on a thread about Family Guy berating people who do like it? The post is called 'When was Family Guy at its best?'. That implies the people this thread is for what is for would like Family Guy at some point. Why come here and call people inhumane for liking the programme? |
First of all, thanks for clearing the "impasse". In this language, I sometimes can't recognize the mood of some sentences.
As for posting here, "the horse forces me". Being this, for good or for bad, a going on debate, to not explain my point of view to people that asks my reasons to say something would be disrespectful; plus, I really think that the point of plain sick jokes must be explained; maybe it'll lick in the future. Who knows. If I were near to a situation in wich a close child were somehow molested, I would certainly not appreciate a show with jokes about the subject. That's tasteless if you ask me. I'm not a moral standard or some sort of human conduct ISO norm. Anyways, the jokes are just... I don't know how to tell you this, it's just that same feeling in music when one thinks "wow!, I could never think of something like that". The joke's lack of that element of extreme cleverness (I don't know if this is a word) is what I call bad. I yawn instead of laughing.
Edit: to be more concise, I won't accept a joke as such if it can hurt someone. If I ever do this myself, I would humbly apologize from my very heart. Jokes are like sports, where a fault is a fault and lack of honour is a very ugly thing to witness.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 08:32
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. |
Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong. |
The reply posted above to Kid-A answers your questions, I think. I'm not trying to succed at anything, mind you. Just spreading a point of view. Who knows, it might be useful. If not to you, perhaps to someone else. This is all about repect. For example, people her have "Argentinian jokes". I don't know a single one, and I certainly hate the idea. Those jokes serve as a tool to spread hate to inmigrants. Same thing with Peruvian people who lives here. I hope this helps.
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 10:43
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I agree with Cuncuna. I find the series tasteless.
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 11:24
A swedish comedian once made a tv-show where he wanted to try just how far you could go, how tasteless a joke could be and still have people laugh at it, so he went to a naughty jokes reading and told his joke. The punchline had to be censored even in swedish television, not because of dirty words, but because of the content. Nobodyin the audience laughed, and many people called him "b*****d" and such names, after and hour of listening to and laughing at some of the most sexist, tasteless and (in my opinion) humourless jokes that you can think of. The joke in itself was indeed terrible, but not really any worse than any else, it was only because it was so blatanyly offensive that the atmosphere in the room totally died.
Child molestation is a very taboo subject, but does that mean that you shouldn't be allowed to make jokes about it at all?
I'm not very fond of the old man in Family Guy, but i truly believe that you have to be able to laugh at even such a thing as child molestation. Not that it is funny in any way, and it must never be the intention to hurt someone by it, but to ignore it or treat it as something we can never make jokes about, i just don't think that is a solution at all.
It's very human to joke about thing we are afraid of, it is a need we have, to make the situation manageable.
So as a means of dealing with the situation, i don't disapprove, but taking advantage of those who may have been hurt just to get laughs, that i do not agree with.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 18:00
cuncuna wrote:
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. |
Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong. |
The reply posted above to Kid-A answers your questions, I think. I'm not trying to succed at anything, mind you. Just spreading a point of view. Who knows, it might be useful. If not to you, perhaps to someone else. This is all about repect. For example, people her have "Argentinian jokes". I don't know a single one, and I certainly hate the idea. Those jokes serve as a tool to spread hate to inmigrants. Same thing with Peruvian people who lives here. I hope this helps. |
WHats with the Argentinian jokes? What does that have to do with anything?¿
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 17:06
Ok, so i just watched "The Aristocrats". Talk about offensive comedy! : ) Very interested to hear what y'all think of that one, you who have seen it.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 22:40
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. |
Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong. |
The reply posted above to Kid-A answers your questions, I think. I'm not trying to succed at anything, mind you. Just spreading a point of view. Who knows, it might be useful. If not to you, perhaps to someone else. This is all about repect. For example, people her have "Argentinian jokes". I don't know a single one, and I certainly hate the idea. Those jokes serve as a tool to spread hate to inmigrants. Same thing with Peruvian people who lives here. I hope this helps. |
WHats with the Argentinian jokes? What does that have to do with anything?¿
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There's nothing like a good argentinian joke... .....
Laugh at yourselves first, don't be so serious about yourself, then you can laugh at the rest, and we'll get along!
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 23:07
The T wrote:
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. |
Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong. |
The reply posted above to Kid-A answers your questions, I think. I'm not trying to succed at anything, mind you. Just spreading a point of view. Who knows, it might be useful. If not to you, perhaps to someone else. This is all about repect. For example, people her have "Argentinian jokes". I don't know a single one, and I certainly hate the idea. Those jokes serve as a tool to spread hate to inmigrants. Same thing with Peruvian people who lives here. I hope this helps. |
WHats with the Argentinian jokes? What does that have to do with anything?¿
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There's nothing like a good argentinian joke... .....
Laugh at yourselves first, don't be so serious about yourself, then you can laugh at the rest, and we'll get along! |
Indeed theres nothing like a good argentinian joke, I just wanted to know what that has to do with anything...
I can laugh at myself... in fact I can laugh at anything really, and if its a bit cruel, then better
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:11
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
el böthy wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
Cuncuna, you are being absolutely rediculous. Yes the show makes jokes about pedophilia, but it also clearly shows it as something sick and disgusting. The pedophile character's only trait is that he is a pedophile. Family guy is a satirical view of society, and it shows how there are sick, perverted characters in the corners of society. If Peter or another popular character was a pedophile, that would be an entirely different story. But it is deliberately a marginal character who you are supposed to hate.
Would you rather people just pretended pedophilia didn't exist? That would actually make the problem worse. The more aware children are of the thread of pedophiles, the better. You really think that jokes about pedophilia on Family guy make the problem worse?
How about jokes about Hitler? Millions of people suffered from him. So can no-one ever make any jokes about Hitler? I certainly think they can.
I guess you don't like dark comedy, that's fine. But get off your f**king moral high horse and stop calling people who do 'inhumane' just because we can take a joke for what it is. People who like Family guy find pedophilia no less sick than you. You're making it seem like we're watching a child get raped and laughing in his face. |
First of all, remember that you don't know me at all, meaning, watch the way you adress to me, the terms "ridiculous" and "f__ng moral high horse" are certainly not welcome. As for Hitler jokes, find a joke about jewish people being murdered, and you'll be in front of a tasteless joke. That's for moral. As for jokes as such, Family guy is beyond boring. As for pedophilia, comedy is not the context to discuss it. Read a little about "speech analysis" (I'm not sure if it is the right translation, you know how it is when one has to deal with a high horse). Anyway, if you enjoy crap, hey, don't worry about me!. it's your money and your TV. |
Again, why do you keep comming to this poll if you hate the programme so much? If what you look is to make us change our mind about the show, I have news for you, I doubt you will succed. Of course this will be awnsered, which will only make my point more evident... and if not, well, I guess then you will have proven myself wrong. |
The reply posted above to Kid-A answers your questions, I think. I'm not trying to succed at anything, mind you. Just spreading a point of view. Who knows, it might be useful. If not to you, perhaps to someone else. This is all about repect. For example, people her have "Argentinian jokes". I don't know a single one, and I certainly hate the idea. Those jokes serve as a tool to spread hate to inmigrants. Same thing with Peruvian people who lives here. I hope this helps. |
WHats with the Argentinian jokes? What does that have to do with anything?¿ |
It's another example of tasteless, negative humor. They serve to the only purpose of justify discrimination. Ok, if you can't see the relation, then this conversation is officialy sterile.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 11:27
I don't know. I think that you can't really laugh at an unpleasant experience unless you've somehow got over it. And to get over it, you first have to experience it. Somehow I don't think there are any paedophilia victims that can laugh at their misfortune, even if they have 'got over it'. And the people who haven't experienced it, why are they laughing? Surely it just shows their total ignorance of the problem.
Having said that, the same probably applies to jokes involving injury, murder or manslaughter, and I rarely have any qualms about laughing at those... although I do believe one should learn to laugh at one's own death, and maybe even at the death of one's beloved.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 11:31
Personally I think one should laugh at anything, but that´s just me
I like how the guys from South Park put it, either you make fun of everything or you make fun of nothing, anything in between is just unfair.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 11:36
Let's put it this way - I heard that WWII concentration camp prisoners used to tease one another into handing over their rations to their friends, since they'd be executed the next day anyway and there was no point in having to carry all those extra kilos in dead bodies to the crematorium. I'm sure they actually found this funny.
I would never tell that joke to a concentration camp prisoner.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 10:25
Visitor13 wrote:
Let's put it this way - I heard that WWII concentration camp prisoners used to tease one another into handing over their rations to their friends, since they'd be executed the next day anyway and there was no point in having to carry all those extra kilos in dead bodies to the crematorium. I'm sure they actually found this funny.
I would never tell that joke to a concentration camp prisoner. |
That's quite close. Just... the spread of certain contents is what I'm more aware off. Jokes about peruvian inmigrants are the base to the violence that those inmigrants end up suffering here. The joke serves as a smooth envelope to carry on with the segregation by making it seem fun. I go back over an over again to a very concrete model: everythyng that exists, exists in language. One has to be careful about the way concepts gain layers of meaning by the use we make of them. It's diffcult for me to explain this in a more deep way using english, but I'm sure there is plenty of information available about this kind of semiotic variations.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 10:36
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^ Yup, I know what you mean and I agree with you.
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