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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 15:06
Amazing band, yes, and funny too.  Judge by yourself.
 
 
Have fun. It was in Belgium.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 15:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 15:24
Keith and his moog at the MoogFest.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 16:54
I love how the majority of the first page posts are users getting all upset over a kid's opinion on the internet.  Thing is, he has not listened to Green Day, Simple Plan, Linkin Park, NoFX, Rancid or Fall Out Boy.


However, opinions agreed on Black Eyed Peas.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 17:28
I really don't mind if people don't like ELP or any other prog bands. That means I can feel good myself that I "get" it and they don't.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 17:42
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by MrHiccup MrHiccup wrote:

This poor guy has never seen Keith Emerson destroying a Hammond... :(
I would be scared to death if I were him.
 
I mean, it's obvious that Emerson is a very dangerous man, with the knives and his Moog Flame Thrower!! LOL
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Didn't he also attach his organ (no not that one, dirty minded people Tongue) to a pole for one tour so he could strap himself to it, raise it above the stage and rotate while playing a solo? 

Something like that. Big%20smile

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=uSm5IQFaTZA


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 18:47
@ the talentless moron who put ELP on his stupid list: Die. :|


Really, all of the other bands I could've handled, but EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER?? WTF???? Sure, I'm not a fan of the Karn Evil 9 lyrics either, but ELP are prog rock MASTERS!!! HOW DARE HE!! *smashes things*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 19:36
I have a magasine from the seventies called "L'histoire du Rock". ELP made the first page and you can see Keith with his organ and synthes and it's written; ELP Les Rois de L'Anti Rock. ( The kings of prog.rock).Big%20smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 19:44
Eh, I've pretty much grown to ignore these kinds of comments about ELP.  This is not the first time (nor the last, I'm sure) that they'll show up in Worst Band lists.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 21:58
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

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Well, our only other "representative" is Kansas.
 
"22. Kansas I really could have done an entire list full of bad prog rock acts. Or, I could have just written a single sentence that said "prog rock sucks." But then I would have missed out on being able to belittle violinists in overalls playing songs about wayward sons and how nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. When your only lasting contribution to pop culture was giving Ted "Theodore" Logan something with which to relate to Socrates, your band pretty much sucked."
 
 
Well, there is no violin in "Carry On wayward Son", so if this guy has so many words to say about this band, at least he should be more thoroughly informed about one of its staple songs.
 
   Kind regards.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 23:22
if he didn't say it nobody would have said it 30 odd years before him  ...  wonder if he is always this slow  I mean hes not original  not even creative..  just echo's of words we have heard time and time again by those who feel threatened by our presence .. and people like that should be hes gonna be redundant  now bands like porcupine tree are starting to take control , prog is getting pretty big I hope he knows.

The other thing regarding Kansas  ..  notice he could only name the two songs that get plenty of "Radio"  he didn't reach for Closet Chronicles or Journey From Mariabronn or Magnum Opus he went straight for the easy target without digging deeper , had he dug deeper he would have found gold , people have even reported have strong spiritual experiences listening to some prog bands ... ahhh spirit  that's where this little man struggles. 

 "Sad little man trapped inside his sad little world, he can see out but never questions who's looking in, so arrogant so misguided, aimless ,  just  a leaf blowing in the wind" 

please excuse my bad attempt at poetry  been listening to fish marillion lately and its rubbing off..  




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 23:29
Originally posted by the a$$hole who wrote the original list the a$$hole who wrote the original list wrote:

 "22. Kansas I really could have done an entire list full of bad prog rock acts. Or, I could have just written a single sentence that said "prog rock sucks." }
 
That's the key phrase...He hates Prog, nothing a Prog bund can do may be accepted by this guy because he believes Prog Rock sucks.
 
But then I would have missed out on being able to belittle violinists in overalls playing songs about wayward sons and how nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky.
 
Since when the job of a serious critic or writer is to belittle (to hummilliate or make a person feel less)  a musician?
 
I honestly believed that a serious critic should make his best effort to be impartial and leave his prejudices behind, but this jerk wants his 5 seconds of fame insulting people who are greater than he will ever dream to be.
 
But as cesar indicates, Carry on My Wayward Son doesn't have violin, so this stupid ignorant is writting BS about a band he has never heard, unless he's deaf as a wall and can't find the difference between an organ and a violin.
 
When your only lasting contribution to pop culture was giving Ted "Theodore" Logan something with which to relate to Socrates, your band pretty much sucked."
 
Please, if all his argument to comment about the music of a band is a silly quote from a B class mmovie, this guy shoud do aother thing rather than speaking about issues that are way ahead of his capacity.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 23:48
 


Edited by bluetailfly - September 25 2007 at 23:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2007 at 23:57
forget you all bitchin about Kansas and ELP.. fans of those groups should know that and expect it... but THIS...THIS makes no sense at all

15. The Fifth Dimension Much like the Captain & Tenille, I am not holding the 5th Dimension's biggeest hit against them; while "Aquarius" is a henious song, it was the late 60s, and both bands and the music buying public weren't in any state to comprehend what they were inflicting upon the world. No, it's the rest of this group's catalog that earn them my scorn. "Up, up and away in my beautiful, my beautiful ballooooooon?" Easily on the soundtrack to Hell. Look... when bizarro peacenik Germans sing about balloons, it's okay... but in no other circumstances are bands to sing about balloons. "Won'tcha marry me Biii-iiilllllll?" Not if you keep screech-singing that song, I won't; ugh. "One Less Bell To Answer" and "(Last Night) I Didn't Get To Sleep At All" are also on my hit list as among the worst pop songs ever.


Marilyn McCoo... oh god what a voice.... maybe it was the fact they inspried Yes that got them on the list
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2007 at 00:11
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

forget you all bitchin about Kansas and ELP.. fans of those groups
should know that and expect it... but THIS...THIS makes no sense at all

15. The Fifth Dimension Much like the Captain &
Tenille, I am not holding the 5th Dimension's biggeest hit against
them; while "Aquarius" is a henious song, it was the late 60s, and both
bands and the music buying public weren't in any state to comprehend
what they were inflicting upon the world. No, it's the rest of this
group's catalog that earn them my scorn. "Up, up and away in my
beautiful, my beautiful ballooooooon?" Easily on the soundtrack to
Hell. Look... when bizarro peacenik Germans sing about balloons, it's
okay... but in no other circumstances are bands to sing about balloons.
"Won'tcha marry me Biii-iiilllllll?" Not if you keep screech-singing
that song, I won't; ugh. "One Less Bell To Answer" and "(Last Night) I
Didn't Get To Sleep At All" are also on my hit list as among the worst
pop songs ever.


Marilyn McCoo... oh god what a voice.... maybe it was the fact they inspried Yes that got them on the list

But their cover of "Sunshine of Your Love" is like totally groovy man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2007 at 00:15
that one sort of came out of left field.. the list was the standard list of bands that get sh*t upon by those who noting nothing about other that what they hear from critics and the like..  But the 5th Dimension.. right there with...Warrant.. hahahha... Warrant.     Oh well...  just sort of jumped out at me. Not exactly a band that many take shots at.   Maybe his ex-wife loved the group or something.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2007 at 00:27
Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:


The other thing regarding Kansas  ..  notice he could only name the two songs that get plenty of "Radio"  he didn't reach for Closet Chronicles or Journey From Mariabronn or Magnum Opus he went straight for the easy target without digging deeper , had he dug deeper he would have found gold , people have even reported have strong spiritual experiences listening to some prog bands ... ahhh spirit  that's where this little man struggles.  

 
Now that you mention that song 'Closet Chronicles', one of the brightest Walsh/Livgren joint compositions, it has a very mundane topic, the physical-psychological degradation of a loner who once was a very famous modern icon, i.e., Howard Hughes. Any aware rock critics (likeing prog or not) would recognize this as a genuine non-mystical subject, akin to many portraits of self-destruction in blues-rock, punk, post-punk, Goth and post-rock. Yet another example of this criticism's frivolity that takes itself way too seriously, and that's the worst kind of pretentiousness, the one that takes itself too seriously.
 
Anyway...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2007 at 01:40
Well, first off lemme preface this comment by saying I love prog...I mean I LOVE prog, I mean thats why I frequent this site.

But with ELP, I can see his point.

They were/are the antithesis of rock music, and quite possibly can be pointed to as the prime mover in instigating the punk movement of the mid 70's. Embarrasingly pretentious, overblown, and stuffy. Clobbered by rock and roll fans for removing any sense of direct rebellion in music and lyric, and equally revilled by classical purists for butchering the classics.

Having said that...yeah I love 'em...seen 'em twice in concert, and I own pretty much all of their albums.

But they are a "guilty" pleasure for me...and when I try to turn on my non-prog friends to the pleasures of progressive music, they are the last band I would ever play them.

Just my opinion, and as the famous quote goes, "Opinions are like ___holes, etc..."Ermm

My comments are not meant to inflame or rile up their fans, just pointing out that I can certainly understand why they are despised by rock "critics". However the comment made about how all "prog rock sucks" in the Kansas entry is just dickish, and elitist (dare I say...pretentious?) in its own way...off with his head!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2007 at 02:45
All that could be sais about King Crimson, too ( for instance ).
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