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Rain 
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 18:54 |
Wich one???
it doesn't need to be by a progressive band
a rule: Must be only one song
I would go for 2112 by rush
breakdown by alan parson's project
Bang bang my baby shot me down by nancy sinatra
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And the meek shall inheret the earth - Niel Peart
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gdub411
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 19:31 |
When I think of an epic., it usually means a long suite( a very long song of 10+ minutes long )or a series of songs that link together to form a concept., but judging from your list Breakdown from I robot and the Nancy Ninatra one it seems to me you just mean song.
Exactly what is your definition of an "epic"
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Rain
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:03 |
epic, for me is any song, (doesnt matter how long) that tells a story
Break dow, part of a story, about robot rebelaton, and bang bang, well yhe story is stup about a relationship. Tha´'s an epic for, me, any way 2112 does fit your epic definition
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James Lee
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:27 |
so you mean best narrative...epic should really imply something big, expansive, or at least heroic...but that's as picky as I'll get. I think it's a good topic either way 
For pure storytelling (and epic size, sometimes) it's hard to beat Arlo Guthrie. I suppose those of you who don't celebrate Thanksgiving might not appreciate it, but "Alice's Restaurant" is a story I can listen to at least once every year.
I have to give an honorary award to the Charlie Daniels Band for "Devil went Down to Georgia" . It's heading for kitsch territory, but I'll bet nobody who was around when it came out has forgotten the story. Great demon fiddles, too.
I think one of the biggest epics has to be the first side of "Hemispheres"- the gods at war over passion versus reason makes for a grand story.
Funny now that I think of it, prog should have a lot of 'story' songs but a surprising number of works are more descriptive than narrative; scenes and events are common subject matter, but following the 'introduction/ conflict/ resolution' model isn't as standard as one might suspect.
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:50 |
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yesss, that was exactly what I was thinking, when I wanted to put Dogs, I realized it was descriptive, and also welcome to the machine, and tom sawyer, that' why I put Bang bang, it's incredible hw in two minutes you can hear a hole story, and such a good piece of music,
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James Lee
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:53 |
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Oh, how could I forget "Ode to Billy Joe" by Bobbie Gentry? Ranks right up with "Devil Went Down to Georgia" for pure storytelling. Believe it or not, a lot of dance and hip-hop bands have sampled the opening drums, too.
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:16 |
Rocky Racoon...the Beatles
The Emporer in his War Room....VdGG
Cats in the Cradle...Harry Chapin
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:20 |
The Highwayman-Loreena Mckennitt
The Lady of Shalott-Loreena Mckennitt
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:29 |
Mr Bojangles-Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down-The Band
I could go on forever....I love these kind of tunes
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:29 |
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the dog up and died....Mr Bojangles
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:31 |
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i think I would go with the Loreena McKennitt tunes as the best I have heard......true epics
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 22:41 |
ELP's Karn Evil 9.... best epic ever written
Billy Joel's - Scenes from an Italian Restaurant
John Cougar Mellencamp - Jack & Diane
Gordon Lightfoot - The Edmund Fitzgerald
America - Simon & Garfunkle
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 22:44 |
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Kayleigh by Marillion.
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 23:18 |
Oops....I missed the best of the bunch
Grendel-Marillion
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Posted: September 02 2004 at 23:28 |
Epic, as the movie genre is a long story or big amount of information narrated or played in short lapse of time, for example The Ten Commandments tell the story of more than 40 years of Exodus in three hours, Ben Hur tells 5 years story of Judah Ben Hur in a couple of hours.
Supper's Ready tells a free version of The Book of Revelations in 18 minutes but Can Utility and the Coastliners tells the story of King Canute in 5:45 but still an Epic.
So the length of the song is really not important, even when because the movie epics used to be long, people qualify every long song as an epic, what IMO is not accurate.
- Supper's Ready (Genesis - Foxtrot)
- Karn Evil 9 (ELP - Brain Salad Surgery)
- All the Seats were Occupied (Aphrodite's Child)
- Hamburger Concerto (Focus- Hamburger Concerto)
- Illusions on a Double Dimple (Triumvirat - Illusions on a Double Dimple)
- The White Witch (Magenta - Revolutions)
- Children of the Sun (Magenta - Revolutions)
- Close to the Edge (Yes - Close to the Edge)
- Song of Sheherezade (Renaissance - Sheherezade and other Stories)
- The March to Eternal City (Triumvirat - Spartacus)
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Posted: September 03 2004 at 01:28 |
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand
Genesis - Watcher Of The Skies
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Posted: September 03 2004 at 03:30 |
ELP - Karn Evil 9
Genesis - Suppers Ready
Deep Purple - Child In Time
Yes - Close To The Edge
Iron Maiden - Ryme Of The Ancient Mariner
IQ - The Last Human Gateway
Yes - Turn Of The Century
Tangerine Dream - Tangram Pt1
Colosseum - Valentyne Suite
Genesis -One For The Vine
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Posted: September 03 2004 at 03:36 |
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Richard Harris - McArthur Park
and loads of Jimmy Webb compositions
Bob Dylan - Hurricane / Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands (add inf')
But my personal prog' fav is Genesis - The Battle of Epping Forest
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The Prognaut
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Posted: September 03 2004 at 03:55 |
- Echoes - (Pink Floyd, "Meddle")
- Supper's Ready - (Genesis, "Foxtrot")
- The Awakening - (Visible Wind, "Narcissus Goes to the Moon")
- A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - (Van der Graaf Generator, "Pawn Hearts")
- Shine On You Crazy Diamond - (Pink Floyd, "Wish You Were Here")
- Karn Evil 9 - (ELP, "Brain Salad Surgery")
- All of the Above - (Transatlantic, "SMPT:e")
- Behind my Eyes - (Quidam, "Angels' Dreams")
- Dogs - (Pink Floyd, "Animals")
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Posted: September 03 2004 at 04:10 |
Suppers Ready - Genesis
One for the vine - Genesis
Fountain of Lamneth - Rush
Hemispheres (Cygnus x-1 part 2) - Rush
Incubus - Marillion
Thick as a brick (Part 1) -Jethro Tull
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