Favourite epic??
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Topic: Favourite epic??
Posted By: Rain
Subject: Favourite epic??
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 18:54
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Wich one??? it doesn't need to be by a progressive band a rule: Must be only one song I would go for 2112 by rush breakdown by alan parson's project Bang bang my baby shot me down by nancy sinatra ------------- And the meek shall inheret the earth - Niel Peart |
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 19:31
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When I think of an epic., it usually means a long suite( a very long song of 10+ minutes long )or a series of songs that link together to form a concept., but judging from your list Breakdown from I robot and the Nancy Ninatra one it seems to me you just mean song. Exactly what is your definition of an "epic" |
Posted By: Rain
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:03
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epic, for me is any song, (doesnt matter how long) that tells a story Break dow, part of a story, about robot rebelaton, and bang bang, well yhe story is stup about a relationship. Tha´'s an epic for, me, any way 2112 does fit your epic definition ------------- And the meek shall inheret the earth - Niel Peart |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:27
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so you mean best narrative...epic should really imply something big, expansive, or at least heroic...but that's as picky as I'll get. I think it's a good topic either way For pure storytelling (and epic size, sometimes) it's hard to beat Arlo Guthrie. I suppose those of you who don't celebrate Thanksgiving might not appreciate it, but "Alice's Restaurant" is a story I can listen to at least once every year. I have to give an honorary award to the Charlie Daniels Band for "Devil went Down to Georgia" I think one of the biggest epics has to be the first side of "Hemispheres"- the gods at war over passion versus reason makes for a grand story. Funny now that I think of it, prog should have a lot of 'story' songs but a surprising number of works are more descriptive than narrative; scenes and events are common subject matter, but following the 'introduction/ conflict/ resolution' model isn't as standard as one might suspect. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: Rain
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:50
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yesss, that was exactly what I was thinking, when I wanted to put Dogs, I realized it was descriptive, and also welcome to the machine, and tom sawyer, that' why I put Bang bang, it's incredible hw in two minutes you can hear a hole story, and such a good piece of music, ------------- And the meek shall inheret the earth - Niel Peart |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 20:53
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Oh, how could I forget "Ode to Billy Joe" by Bobbie Gentry? Ranks right up with "Devil Went Down to Georgia" for pure storytelling. Believe it or not, a lot of dance and hip-hop bands have sampled the opening drums, too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:16
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Rocky Racoon...the Beatles The Emporer in his War Room....VdGG Cats in the Cradle...Harry Chapin
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:20
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The Highwayman-Loreena Mckennitt The Lady of Shalott-Loreena Mckennitt |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:29
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Mr Bojangles-Nitty Gritty Dirt Band The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down-The Band I could go on forever....I love these kind of tunes |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:29
| the dog up and died....Mr Bojangles |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:31
| i think I would go with the Loreena McKennitt tunes as the best I have heard......true epics |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 22:41
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ELP's Karn Evil 9.... best epic ever written Billy Joel's - Scenes from an Italian Restaurant John Cougar Mellencamp - Jack & Diane Gordon Lightfoot - The Edmund Fitzgerald America - Simon & Garfunkle ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 22:44
| Kayleigh by Marillion. |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 23:18
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Oops....I missed the best of the bunch Grendel-Marillion |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 23:28
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Epic, as the movie genre is a long story or big amount of information narrated or played in short lapse of time, for example The Ten Commandments tell the story of more than 40 years of Exodus in three hours, Ben Hur tells 5 years story of Judah Ben Hur in a couple of hours. Supper's Ready tells a free version of The Book of Revelations in 18 minutes but Can Utility and the Coastliners tells the story of King Canute in 5:45 but still an Epic. So the length of the song is really not important, even when because the movie epics used to be long, people qualify every long song as an epic, what IMO is not accurate.
Iván |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 01:28
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King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand Genesis - Watcher Of The Skies |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 03:30
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ELP - Karn Evil 9 Genesis - Suppers Ready Deep Purple - Child In Time Yes - Close To The Edge Iron Maiden - Ryme Of The Ancient Mariner IQ - The Last Human Gateway Yes - Turn Of The Century Tangerine Dream - Tangram Pt1 Colosseum - Valentyne Suite Genesis -One For The Vine
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 03:36
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Richard Harris - McArthur Park
and loads of Jimmy Webb compositions Bob Dylan - Hurricane / Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands (add inf') But my personal prog' fav is Genesis - The Battle of Epping Forest |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 03:55
------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 04:10
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Suppers Ready - Genesis One for the vine - Genesis Fountain of Lamneth - Rush Hemispheres (Cygnus x-1 part 2) - Rush Incubus - Marillion Thick as a brick (Part 1) -Jethro Tull ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 05:10
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Good call on "Alice's Restaurant" - I'll add "Motorcycle Song" (Significance of the pickle version, not the shorter one where he runs into Mike, who no longer has a motorcycle, but the one where he drives off a cliff playing his guitar and lands on the policeman with a ten foot ticket...). "Time Table" by Genesis. "Grendel" by Marillion "Iron Horse - Born to Lose" by Motorhead "Let There Be Rock" by AC/DC ...for starters |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 09:17
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My favourite epic is Xanadu by Rush. Honourable mentions to Close To The Edge Hemispheres Suppers Ready. Most overrated: Grendel. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 09:32
I really like Rush's Cygnus X-1 Book II. Over ten years ago I recorded for myself Cygnus X-1 (A Farewell To Kings) and Cygnus X-1 Book II ( Hemispheres), back to back on cassette - recommend trying it, it works very well as an extended musical piece. But for a muscial epic with a good narrative I have to go for Townshend/Who's Quadraphenia. BTW anybody heard the play with incidental music of Townshend's The Lifehouse (broadcast by BBC Radio 3, the recording of which is found on Townshend's 6 CD set The Lifehouse Project)? |
Reed Lover wrote:Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 09:57
Go back to your pink oboe |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 13:02
I'd have to pull it out of my sock first!!! Grendel is soooo derivative of Suppers Ready that it cant be considered a classic although,obviously, it is entitled to appear as a favourite. -------------
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Posted By: Crow
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 14:03
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The Microphones: Glow pt 2 The Microphones: Mt Eerie Both quite proggy albums and on K records. |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 14:40
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Hmmm...not easy but I'll try...I guess it will be a long list (in no particular order):
------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 14:46
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Going very much on the story telling ticket:
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 16:06
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I thought they defined an epic as a story....you know...The Devil Went Down to Georgia.....with that in mind how can Atom Heart Mother be defined as a story? Also with that in mind Grendel fits better than Supper's Ready. I am not altogether sure if Supper's Ready is a story I think Suppers Ready is a bettter song than Grendel but with this particular thread I don't think Suppers Ready is appropriate |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 16:08
No - it's only the section that is an almost direct take-off of "Apocalypse in 9/8", in a kind of tributary gesture that comes from Supper's Ready - there's nothing else about "Grendel" that comes from that other epic! |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 20:00
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[/QUOTE] No - it's only the section that is an almost direct take-off of "Apocalypse in 9/8", in a kind of tributary gesture that comes from Supper's Ready - there's nothing else about "Grendel" that comes from that other epic! [/QUOTE] Then you try to place the killer's blade in my hand There I've said it! -------------
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 04 2004 at 01:51
| Although not many of you guys are familiar with the Hungarian band Omega Iwill have to go with White Magic Stone which can be found on their first English album produced by Peter Hawke. It is also on two Hungarian language albums. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 04 2004 at 01:52
| I can't even believe Mariah hsn't been mentioned on this thread. |
Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: September 08 2004 at 15:11
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I can't really decide between two of my favorites Epic songs, but I cast my vote to Supper's Ready, this song comprises all the moods, all the rythms that in every chapter or movement fit with the lyrics... A weird vision of the constant fight between the good and the evil, really... Karn Evil 9 ( my other contender ) is more serious with really clever lyrics written in part by Pete Sinfield (former KC). I guess I made a right choice...Supper's really rules!!! ------------- Democracy=A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people... 
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: September 08 2004 at 16:07
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2112 by Rush, Supper's Ready by Genesis, Close to the Edge by Yes, Gates of Delirium by Yes, and Xanadu by Rush. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Rain
Date Posted: September 08 2004 at 17:45
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I think I'll have to agree with gdub411, I don't know what you are smoking but I cant find the narrative part about Atom Heatr Mother, althogh i stil have to listen to it backwards, maybe theres something there, eheh, no just kidding, butheres no story in AHM, nor in echoes. I cant belive I forgot the two song that keep me from leaving this boring world!! XANADU & CONFORTABLY NUMB (not to strong in story, but the hole song as a final product!!!!) maybe the best peices of music Ever! ------------- And the meek shall inheret the earth - Niel Peart |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 08 2004 at 18:08
There are a lots more ways your life could be worse, so dont leave just yet. Imagine there are actually people out there who havent heard Rush or Genesis or Yes and will never, ever have the opportunity! -------------
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Posted By: Rain
Date Posted: September 08 2004 at 18:19
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Thanx for meaking my life meaningfull Reed Lover, I can't really belive there is people that will never hear tom saywer ------------- And the meek shall inheret the earth - Niel Peart |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 08 2004 at 20:48
| Worse than that....there are a whole lot of sorry saps out there who'll never hear Classic Genesis, and other prog bands because they are too caught up in the pop scene...I have lots of friends who think Abacab and Duke is early Genesis and stretching the bounds to them is liking Dream Weaver from Gary Wright |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 14:01
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Well said Gdub! Phil Collins should be tried by The Prog Court for robbery, assault and battery of an institution! -------------
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 14:10
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Well I hope It hasn´t been composed yet.
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 14:12
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It has been bloody de-composed mate! -------------
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 14:15
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Don´t think so, there´s still some epic lurking about somewhere.
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 14:17
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Where? -------------
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Posted By: 5 minute solo
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 14:31
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And you and I - Yes, you could describe it as epic You shook me all night long - AC/DC, it has a narrative Roulette dares - The Mars Volta ------------- You want the spoon? You can't handle the spoon! |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 17:54
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This is the most difficult exercise to do: there are so many tracks! I'll go for those ones, but it would change all day Renaissance-Scheherazade Genesis-Cinema show Gryphon-Heldenleben Mike Oldfield-Amarok Mike Oldfield-When the wind chimes Collage-In your eyes Triumvirat-Spartacus Rush-Villa strangiato Pat Metheny-Finding and believing Tangerine dream-Quichotte part 2 Vangelis-Chariots of fire Rick Wakeman-Chamber of horrors Yes-Awaken IQ-Narrow margin Jethro Tull-Thick as a brick 1 & 2 Focus-Eruption Frank Zappa-The drowning witch Frank Zappa-Redunzl Frank Zappa-Inca roads Happy the man-New York dream suite Genesis-Supper's ready Pink Floyd-Shine on your crazy diamond All the Pallas songs on Sentinel, except Arrive alive and Shock treatment IQ - Wrong side of weird IQ - Leap of faith IQ - Further away IQ-Seventh house IQ-The Enemy Smacks PFM-Mountain PFM-Il banchetto Rush-Hemispheres Rush-Xanadu Rush-Natural science Rush-Camera eye Renaissance-Can you hear me Renaissance-Touching once... Renaissance-Things I don't understand Renaissance-Song for all seasons Renaissance-Day of the dreamer Yes-And you and I Yes-Close to the edge Rick Wakeman-Music reincarnate Rick Wakeman-Journey to the center of the earth 1 & 2 Rick Wakeman-Statue of justice ELP-Take a pebble ELP-Pirates ELP-Karn Evil 9 Pt.2 Ozric tentacles-Jurassic shift Ozric tentacles-White rhino tea (short but quintessential) Mark Isham-My wife with champagne shoulder Lyle Mays-Slink . . .
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: September 10 2004 at 23:52
| oops...I forgot Citizen Cain - The gathering |
Posted By: drlark
Date Posted: September 11 2004 at 23:37
Mine are:
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: September 12 2004 at 11:25
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hhuuumm let's see...among others: the jazzy /ethnic jam Time Machine by Dzyan and off course the fantastic Solar Music by Grobschnitt
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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: September 12 2004 at 12:00
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Yes - Awaken, Starship Trooper, And You and I, Gates of Delirium etc etc Rush - Camea Eye, Jacob's Ladder, Natural Science, La Villa Strangiata, Xanadu Genesis - Supper's Ready, Cinema Show, all of Lamb Kansas - Song For America, Incomudro, Hopelessly Human Pink Floyd - Dogs, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Echoes and all of Dark Side and The Wall (can't not listen to them as a whole) Beatles - Side 2 of Abbery Road Led Zeppelin - Kashmir, Achilles Last Stand Sigur Ros - Svefn-G-Englar Steely dan - Aja Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Underworld - Banstyle/Sappy's Curry
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