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Tony R
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 12:08 |
philippe wrote:
Tony R wrote:
philippe wrote:
That's a perpetual debate here, many discussions about it but not changes at all because the decision is in the hands of a small group. |
That decision was the hand of one person - see my previous post and stop the demagogy..
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I wonder who is the demagogue or the tyran here... |
Look, the decision about RWR's is Max's alone. The Admin Team has discussed it at length with him and he will not budge. The Admin Team is often torn between representing the consencus of its own views, those of the forum and doing what the owner demands. At the end of the day it's up to him.I would say that this is probably the only issue where the Admin Team and Max disagree....
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 12:08 |
Anyway, changes have been made... ratings-without-reviews have a weight smaller than the ratings-with-reviews.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 12:06 |
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philippe
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 12:03 |
Tony R wrote:
philippe wrote:
That's a perpetual debate here, many discussions about it but not changes at all because the decision is in the hands of a small group. |
That decision was the hand of one person - see my previous post and stop the demagogy..
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I wonder who is the demagogue or the tyran here...
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Trickster F.
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Joined: February 10 2006
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 12:00 |
The biggest difficulty here, as it has already been mentioned, is allowing anyone to express their point of view, regardless of the ability to do so using a language (admittedly, many people have trouble getting their point across in their native language as well).
I don't see how banning ratings without reviews rids the site's pages of the aforementioned fanboys, haters and people who haven't listened to the album. In fact, a great number of reviews are dubious in this regard, as generic references and brief mention of the reviewer's fondnes of specific tracks is usually not convincing enough.
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Tony R
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 11:57 |
philippe wrote:
That's a perpetual debate here, many discussions about it but not changes at all because the decision is in the hands of a small group. |
That decision was the hand of one person - see my previous post and stop the demagogy..
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andu
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Location: Romania
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 11:55 |
Are my ratings any less valid than WaywardsSon's reviews just because he can't tell whether I listened to the albums or not?
Of course there is no reasonable answer to this question, so the next question that comes would be: should there be a policy of trust or one of distrust? Myself I believe in the "non-guilty presumption" (or whatever it's called in English) as the civilized way to live together.
Also, for various reasons I can't seem to be able yet to put my thoughts into written form, though I try to put myself together for this for almost a year now. If this does not change, I would find unfair to be forbidden to express my little expertise in some way. The language barrier is a true, valid, argument, not just a slogan.
Edited by andu - September 02 2007 at 11:59
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philippe
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 11:53 |
That's a perpetual debate here, many discussions about it but not changes at all because the decision is in the hands of a small group.
Off course I'm also against ratings without reviews.
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Tony R
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 11:53 |
Our webmaster says that RWR's allow non-English speakers to give an opinion, as we only allow reviews written in English. For the psychology of this you should be reminded that Max is French-Canadian.
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glass house
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 11:48 |
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andu
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 11:46 |
No...
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WaywardSon
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Joined: April 23 2006
Location: Brazil
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 11:43 |
I really feel that all the ratings without reviews should be deleted.
To just rate albums brings out all the fanboys and haters, without any proof that they have even listened to the album.
Anyone feel the same way about this?
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