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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 17:58
Dirk,  regarding  Al di Meola, you have Return To Forever?  Try them if you don't.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:00
Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

Apart from the big classics, there's a new band that called my attention some time ago, GARAJ MAHAL. They sound very good! Definitely to check out!

www.garajmahal.net

Also, another band, not really jazzy LOL, more metallish, is ELECTROCUTION 250, who play insane music, the combination of metal, shred and cartoon music. If you're looking for ORIGINAL music, give a listen. So far they've released one album, which is very good, and on their PA page they've an mp3:

www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1877

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I had never heard of Garaj Mahal until now. They actually sound pretty solid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:12
Also more on the prog side are a couple of European bands from the early `70s you guys should check out. Midnight Sun who were from Denmark and Eiliff from Germany. Both are on the archives and are available on CD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:31
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I highly recommend early Embryo (not that the latter Embryo are bad, but they are no longer jazz rock; their music is more ethno-rock) and Aera (not to be confused with Area).


Good advices. About Embryo, "Rocksession" is a must.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:47
Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Dirk,  regarding  Al di Meola, you have Return To Forever?  Try them if you don't.
 
 
No i haven't , someone else also gave me that  tip also so i'll try them first. Thx Tony.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 19:58
Just started listening to Planet X Moonbabies...man I'm at loss of words, it sounds incredible, nice fusion of prog metal elements and jazz, never quite heard something like this, you guys better try them!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 20:04
Their new album Quantum, is quite good, with Allan Holdsworth replacing MacAlpine. I think they sounded better with Tony, even though Holdsworth is the superior jazz guitarist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 22:00
You will want to be careful here.
 
After prog (ELP, Yes, etc.) became too bombastic for me (around 1973-1974-ish, if memory serves, which it may not), I turned to fusion as a nice source of music played by accomplished musicians.  Unfortunately, fusion itself eventually became bombastic, at which point I came to enjoy the relative simplicity of The Clash, etc.
 
But as far a jazz-rock/fusion goes, here are recommendations:
 
Return to Forever (self-titled, Light As A Feather, Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy, etc.)
Mahavishnu (Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire)
Weather Report (Sweetnighter, Heavy Weather)
Herbie Hancock (Headhunters stuff, e.g., Thrust)
Keith Jarrett
 
This will invariably lead you to try some Miles Davis:
 
Bitches Brew
At The Fillmore
On The Corner
Agharta
and others too numerous to mention
 
Which will eventually lead you to try jazz itself -- early Miles, Coltrane, Bird, Duke Ellington, and others too numerous to mention.   
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 22:46
Steely Dan, Brand X and King Crimson's Red i think might qualify

for steely dan, especially Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstacy, and Pretzel Logic

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 04:16
For reference the thread below, which also dedicated to jazz rock, has been continued in this thread:
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 06:16
I also sometime ago, acquired the first and second albums from Softmachine; they're not quite Third, but great records as well! Gonna give soon enough a review on Planet X Moonbabies, great album folksThumbs%20Up





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 06:40
Early Embryo albums are great jazz rock too, especially "Bad Heads and Bad Cats" and their first live album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:04
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Early Embryo albums are great jazz rock too, especially "Bad Heads and Bad Cats" and their first live album.


Opal, the first I heard of them, is a great listen as well - even if it only scores 3 stars in our PA rating system. I'm moving on to Rocksession now, which is quite different.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:44
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

Their new album Quantum, is quite good, with Allan Holdsworth replacing MacAlpine. I think they sounded better with Tony, even though Holdsworth is the superior jazz guitarist.


Perhaps because our tastes differ slightly I have to say I prefer Quantum - coincidentally  it arrived yesterday from Amazon and has been played hard since. It is the first Planet X album I felt has consistent jazz rock fusion feel running throughout (of the 4 albums I have of their's), rather heavy instrumental rock with the occasional jazzy solo thrown in.  That perhaps reflects Sherinian and Donati's  employment of musicians who are better known for jazz rock than heavy rock. I've been an admirer of Australian Bret Garsed's guitarwork (various solo and duo albums with T.J Helmerich , including Uncle Moe's Space Ranch, although when adopts a Holdsworthian style in his solo work here, he does slightly confuse as to whether he or the maestro are playing certain passages - the liner notes are poor wrt who does what. Although I'm absolutely sure when Holdsworth is doing the business. And Jimmy Johnson, bass regular with Allan Holdsworth,  also helps give that feel of a near complete jazz rock album. Donati's drumming is pretty special on this album. Sherinian is comparatively restrained but when he strikes in there are echoes of Hammer and Emerson and dare I say it somethings I thought lifted from one of Jens Johansson's best solo album.

I recommend Quantum strongly - btw so are many of the contributors at Fusenet jazz rock discussion site, who turned me on to the album originally.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:53
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Im a newb as well, its so hard to find and then those special quirky ones are much harder...


And unfortunately...I think thats it. Though I'm probably missing a few.


You got start somewhere - however, bad news: the discography in Stuart Nicholson essential "biography" Jazz Rock A History listed over 4000 albums - the book is 10 years old now - I think since I lent the book to somebody a couple years ago and not seen it since!.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:18
Originally posted by LeInsomniac LeInsomniac wrote:

I'm mainly keen on Mahavishnu, AREA, Perigeo, Al di Meola, Bill Bruford, Return to Forever, Zappa and softmachine (in their Jazzy works)


With such preferences you're bound to love KENSO, especially their masterpiece FABULIS MIRABILIBUS, which you will find reviewed here:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6066
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:33
I have an album by Steve Smith's (Ex- Journey) Vital Information called orion which is pretty good. I think he's done quite a bit in the Jazz/Fusion area.
 
I can also recomend Heavy metal Be bop by the Brecker Brothers which features Terry Bozzio on Drums.
 
You may also want to check out the Chick Corea Electric Band and a lot of people rate Pat Metheny very highly although I must admit to not being mad about his guitar sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 10:54
GILGAMESH..
Nor as good as Brand X bur simular.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 11:18
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by LeInsomniac LeInsomniac wrote:

I'm mainly keen on Mahavishnu, AREA, Perigeo, Al di Meola, Bill Bruford, Return to Forever, Zappa and softmachine (in their Jazzy works)


With such preferences you're bound to love KENSO, especially their masterpiece FABULIS MIRABILIBUS, which you will find reviewed here:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6066


So i suppose Fuxi that the best way to acquire them is by Amazon? You got me interested.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 13:52
Oh, and of course Gong definitely have to be mentioned too. Their jazz-rock period begins with the in my opinion slightly underrated "Shamal".


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