The Jazz-Rock/Fusion Appreciation Thread
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Topic: The Jazz-Rock/Fusion Appreciation Thread
Posted By: LeInsomniac
Subject: The Jazz-Rock/Fusion Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 21:58
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Well I think its about time someone started a apreciation thread on this sub-genre, I'm mainly keen on Mahavishnu, AREA, Perigeo, Al di Meola, Bill Bruford, Return to Forever, Zappa and softmachine (in their Jazzy works) now does anyone can tell me of another groups I and a lot of people interested in this genre should start their acquintance? Ideas?thoughts? opinions? new groups we should start hearing and old groups we dont discuss a lot?
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 22:44
Miles Davis, Soft Machine & Zappa are my favorites so far but im still a jazz-rock/fusion n0ob. Some help of what to get next whuld be nice.  ------------- 
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Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 22:51
| Tony Williams is an excellent choice. He's one of the first pioneers. Also Conrad Schrenk Extravaganza comes to mind. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 22:58
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from the Italians.. HIGHLY recommend Area... but not if you want strict jazz-rock/fusion... because they weren't. Perigeo were more traditional JR/F and I love their albums. Great stuff ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:08
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Im a newb as well, its so hard to find and then those special quirky ones are much harder...
The only I got now are -Al Di Meola and his trio projects -Mahavishnu Orchestra -Ohm: -Return to Forever -Planet X -Billy Cobham And unfortunately...I think thats it. Though I'm probably missing a few. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:12
earlier someone suggested Tony Williams and those albums seem to easy to find here in the states.... they are great albums..and essential. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
ProgBagel wrote:Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:20
| Conrad Schrenk is rare, but if you hear it you'll realize it was worth the effort to find such beautiful music. He's like no other. |
Posted By: Salviaal
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 01:46
Dezo Ursiny - Pevnina detstva This is an excellent fusion album from Slovakia that is quite obscure. The artist was only just put up on PA yesterday hence the lack of reviews. So seek it out, the other albums by him are not really jazz/fusion so look for this one in particular! http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16188 |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 01:54
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i'm taking guitar courses from this guy who's spent the last three years studying jazz improvisation in Leeds and every now and then he suggests me some jazz artists and the last one was Guthrie Govan and i'd have to say he's OK... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: Salviaal
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:10
| Guthrie Govan being merely OK? He's totally amazing. When his album came out I had it on repeat for weeks! |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:13
hey, cut me some slack here.. i'm only starting to appreciate jazz... it will take me some time, you know... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:28
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I see we have two Jazz-Rock threads. ------------- 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:38
| Dixie Dregs will pwn your face right off your shining skull. I love 'em. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:13
 Herbie Hancock Trio with Ron Carter & Tony Williams is a far from bad fusion album.  More jazz than rock is the album This That of Dick-Heckstall Smith (now who did he play with before?  ), Jack Bruce and John Stevens. Quite enjoyable, or as some say - a classic.I got both earlier this week, and apart from that I enjoy Soft Machine, Al Di Meola, Pierre Moerlen's Gong, Embryo, Hectic Watermelon, Weather Report, Jaco Pastorius, Return to Forever and many more... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:15
We do?? I'll ask an admin to merge the two... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 06:00
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ah! i forgot to say I know too Weather Report; thanks Angelo, if its possible to merge the two, great, if not, it's no biggy, I just want to have a thread of appreciation of Jazz Rock where everyone can give tips to albums no one knows or discuss the musicianship of the groups connected to this subgenre or just to jazz, and it working, I dont know a lot of names discussed here...dont know where to start! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/LeInsomniac/?chartstyle=volta">
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 06:38
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Sure - no problem. Nice Perigeo review, Miguel. BTW: you might want to change the thread title independent from the merge: appreciation has 1 t and 2 p's ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 06:43
Geez and I call myself a good english speller,  really I can't seem to know how I made that error, oh well. Living and learning! Thanks, Angelo that Perigeo album really is one of my faves, but I want to get to know more and more groups, I think I dont know that much about Jazz Rock
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 07:07
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Brand X their Morrocan Roll is a very good album.
Allready mentioned Hectic Watermelon. Never enough mentions for this one though!!
And give Kenso and Fromuz a try.
Not yet in the Archives are Combination Head, a very good band.
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 07:08
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We've seen worse spelling and grammar than yours here As for JR/F: there's so much to be found and discovered, and there's a lot of stuff that is just on the other side of the borders between Jazz Rock and other Jazz that it will take forever to know everything. I've been on PA for over a year now, and before that I hadn't even considered delving into this genre. Now I'm addicted... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 07:16
i just received a copy of the "Catapilla" album - Affinity meets Colosseum, very enjoyable album, looking forward to hearing the follow up "Changes". 
(i know thery're listed in the Art Rock section but this one is surely borderline..?)
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 08:10
mystic fred, a review of that album is in order?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 09:26
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I highly recommend early Embryo (not that the latter Embryo are bad, but they are no longer jazz rock; their music is more ethno-rock) and Aera (not to be confused with Area).
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 09:41
I recommend a polish band http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2857 - LABORATORIUM  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 09:54
Fully agree with the Embryo part - need to check out Aera. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 09:56
Check out also ../artist.asp?id=2857 - LABORATORIUM !
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 10:05
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I heard you Tuvzihar Do you know if they have a web site, even though there's none listed in PA? And while we're at it: a slighty heavier, more metal like side of JR/F is filled in by Karcius. Try their album Sphere some time.... I bought both their albums after hearing the track Liquid Meat on Dick Heath's radio show.  ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 10:07
Nope. They don't have a website, unfortunately. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:08
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7 for 4, Al DiMeola, Allan Holdsworth, Allen Vizzutti, Béla Fleck & The Flecktones, Bill Bruford, Billy Cobam, Billy Cobham/George Duke Band, Brand X, The Brecker Brothers, Charlie Hunter, Chick Corea Elektric Band, Colosseum, Dave Holland, Dennis Chambers, Frank Zappa, George Duke, Herbie Hancock, Jaco Pastorius, Jean-Luc Ponty, Jeff Beck, John Scofield, Joshua Redman Elastic Band, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Medeski Martin & Wood, Mike Stern, Miles Davis, New Jersey Kings, Pat Metheny Group, Planet X, Return To Forever, Santana, Vital Tech Tones, Soft Machine, Stanley Clarke, Stanton Moore, Steve Jenkins, Tony Williams Lifetime, Umphrey's McGee, Victor Wooten, Wayne Shorter, Weather Report...
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:16
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Holy Canolli!!!! Now thats a list! I'm actually trying to acquire Tony Williams life time, the album Emergency, has already been recomended. Dark shade, which album from Miles Davies do you recommend? I only have best offs and so, i think I'm missing something...
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:18
Bitches Brew Big Fun Tribute to Jack Johnson Agharta Pangaea to name a few! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:20
certainly!...a nice one though
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:22
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^ Miles has a vast selection to choose from. Personally I'd go with Live-Evil or A Tribute To Jack Johnson since those are a bit easier to get into. Bitches Brew may be considered a fusion classic, and probably the first (although Hot Rats by Zappa may be the first) full out fusion album, but it's hard for the uninitiated to get into. it's VERY trippy and out there, with lots of different instrumentation. but thats my opinion.
Emergency is great, also get the Lifetime album which features Holdsworth. And if you like that album, you'll like Bruford's solo stuff.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:23
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this thread gave me an idea for another thread. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:28
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lets see what that is
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 11:31
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Well if you like Soft Machine, try Nucleus. They're sound is different, but they're still excellent. Nucleus' sound is more akin to later Soft Machine with Holdsworth (also a member of Nucleus at one time) and John Etheridge. You may also like Quiet Sun's style of jazz rock/fusion, it's quite a lot different, yet excellent. I have Miles Davis' In A Silent Way and Bitches Brew (both with John McLaughlin) and they're excellent. I do prefer my Elton Dean-esque jazz though. -------------   
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 12:00
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Apart from the big classics, there's a new band that called my attention some time ago, GARAJ MAHAL. They sound very good! Definitely to check out! http://www.garajmahal.net - - www.garajmahal.net Also, another band, not really jazzy  , more metallish, is ELECTROCUTION 250, who play insane music, the combination of metal, shred and cartoon music. If you're looking for ORIGINAL music, give a listen. So far they've released one album, which is very good, and on their PA page they've an mp3:http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1877 - - www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1877  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 12:01
| Nice there's a thread about this genre now. I'm rather new to it, i enjoy Steve Hillage, Al di Meola and S.B.B but i find Mahavishnu's Innner mountain flame (and also Soft machine's Third) a bit inaccessible.Can you recommend me some albums based on these data. Thx in advance. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 12:44
At least - problem is, if there is no continuous correspondence a thread drops off the bottom. However, the search engine is always recommended to avoid dupication/triplication. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 17:47
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I think I`ve brought this band up somewhere. Steve Smith from Journey has an on and off project called Vital Information. Their first album simply titled Vital Information ( 1983 ) is killer lots of sax & guitar freakouts. I think Wounded Bird has released it on CD along with the second one Orion ( 1984 ) which is in the same vein. If you like Cobham`s solo stuff you`ll definitely love this. They have just released a new album called Vitalization this year but I haven`t got my paws on it yet. ------------- |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 17:58
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Dirk, regarding Al di Meola, you have Return To Forever? Try them if you don't.
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Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:00
I had never heard of Garaj Mahal until now. They actually sound pretty solid.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:12
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Also more on the prog side are a couple of European bands from the early `70s you guys should check out. Midnight Sun who were from Denmark and Eiliff from Germany. Both are on the archives and are available on CD. ------------- |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:31
Good advices. About Embryo, "Rocksession" is a must. |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:47
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 19:58
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Just started listening to Planet X Moonbabies...man I'm at loss of words, it sounds incredible, nice fusion of prog metal elements and jazz, never quite heard something like this, you guys better try them!!!
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 20:04
| Their new album Quantum, is quite good, with Allan Holdsworth replacing MacAlpine. I think they sounded better with Tony, even though Holdsworth is the superior jazz guitarist. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 22:00
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You will want to be careful here.
After prog (ELP, Yes, etc.) became too bombastic for me (around 1973-1974-ish, if memory serves, which it may not), I turned to fusion as a nice source of music played by accomplished musicians. Unfortunately, fusion itself eventually became bombastic, at which point I came to enjoy the relative simplicity of The Clash, etc.
But as far a jazz-rock/fusion goes, here are recommendations:
Return to Forever (self-titled, Light As A Feather, Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy, etc.)
Mahavishnu (Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire)
Weather Report (Sweetnighter, Heavy Weather)
Herbie Hancock (Headhunters stuff, e.g., Thrust)
Keith Jarrett
This will invariably lead you to try some Miles Davis:
Bitches Brew
At The Fillmore
On The Corner
Agharta
and others too numerous to mention
Which will eventually lead you to try jazz itself -- early Miles, Coltrane, Bird, Duke Ellington, and others too numerous to mention.
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Posted By: sheeves
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 22:46
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Steely Dan, Brand X and King Crimson's Red i think might qualify
for steely dan, especially Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstacy, and Pretzel Logic |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 04:16
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For reference the thread below, which also dedicated to jazz rock, has been continued in this thread:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30047 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30047
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 06:16
I also sometime ago, acquired the first and second albums from Softmachine; they're not quite Third, but great records as well! Gonna give soon enough a review on Planet X Moonbabies, great album folks  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/LeInsomniac/?chartstyle=volta">
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 06:40
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Early Embryo albums are great jazz rock too, especially "Bad Heads and Bad Cats" and their first live album.
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:04
Opal, the first I heard of them, is a great listen as well - even if it only scores 3 stars in our PA rating system. I'm moving on to Rocksession now, which is quite different. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:44
Perhaps because our tastes differ slightly I have to say I prefer Quantum - coincidentally it arrived yesterday from Amazon and has been played hard since. It is the first Planet X album I felt has consistent jazz rock fusion feel running throughout (of the 4 albums I have of their's), rather heavy instrumental rock with the occasional jazzy solo thrown in. That perhaps reflects Sherinian and Donati's employment of musicians who are better known for jazz rock than heavy rock. I've been an admirer of Australian Bret Garsed's guitarwork (various solo and duo albums with T.J Helmerich , including Uncle Moe's Space Ranch, although when adopts a Holdsworthian style in his solo work here, he does slightly confuse as to whether he or the maestro are playing certain passages - the liner notes are poor wrt who does what. Although I'm absolutely sure when Holdsworth is doing the business. And Jimmy Johnson, bass regular with Allan Holdsworth, also helps give that feel of a near complete jazz rock album. Donati's drumming is pretty special on this album. Sherinian is comparatively restrained but when he strikes in there are echoes of Hammer and Emerson and dare I say it somethings I thought lifted from one of Jens Johansson's best solo album. I recommend Quantum strongly - btw so are many of the contributors at Fusenet jazz rock discussion site, who turned me on to the album originally. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:53
You got start somewhere - however, bad news: the discography in Stuart Nicholson essential "biography" Jazz Rock A History listed over 4000 albums - the book is 10 years old now - I think since I lent the book to somebody a couple years ago and not seen it since!. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:18
With such preferences you're bound to love KENSO, especially their masterpiece FABULIS MIRABILIBUS, which you will find reviewed here: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6066
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:33
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I have an album by Steve Smith's (Ex- Journey) Vital Information called orion which is pretty good. I think he's done quite a bit in the Jazz/Fusion area.
I can also recomend Heavy metal Be bop by the Brecker Brothers which features Terry Bozzio on Drums.
You may also want to check out the Chick Corea Electric Band and a lot of people rate Pat Metheny very highly although I must admit to not being mad about his guitar sound.
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Posted By: Tetragon
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 10:54
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GILGAMESH..
Nor as good as Brand X bur simular.
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 11:18
So i suppose Fuxi that the best way to acquire them is by Amazon? You got me interested. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/LeInsomniac/?chartstyle=volta">
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 13:52
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Oh, and of course Gong definitely have to be mentioned too. Their jazz-rock period begins with the in my opinion slightly underrated "Shamal".
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 14:24
Steve Smith is a major player. Look out for the albums issued by Tone Center Records with Smith as one of the named players on the box: e.g. with Larry Coryell, Frank Gambale and Stu Hamm, and not forgetting the Vital Tech Tones. Smith debut album was Jean Luc Ponty's Enigmatic Ocean, ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 14:51
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In the last couple of months, I've been going over some of the Cryptogramophone release (the Cline bros., Bendian, Liebig, Stinson, Amendola, Maupin and many more) and have taken a liking to the varied output of this label. I also have been listening to some of Tim Berne's releases (under several names - Big Satan, Hard Cell etc.) which are different than the previous bunch, more experimenal, free form (though all of those use improvization to varying extent and under different pre-defnied frames).
http://www.cryptogramophone.com/ - http://www.cryptogramophone.com/
http://www.screwgunrecords.com/ - http://www.screwgunrecords.com/
Any other musician/project you think would be interesting to listen to next?
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Posted By: meinmatrix
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 15:39
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I like guitarist John Scofield very much. He has made over 25 albums full of excellent jazz-rock and fusion, also some magnificent ballads. ------------- 
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 20:45
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Eleventh House w\Larry Coryell - as important to fusion as Mahavishnu Orchestra and RTF Dreams - short lived but not forgotten (both Brecker brothers, Billy Cobham, John Abercrombie) David Sancious - multi instrument fusion genius IF - phenominal jazz\rock group (70s) from England Brian Auger Oblivion Express - one of the best jazz organist ever Frank Gambale - one of the best fusion guitarist going |
Posted By: pobben
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 03:47
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My favourite genre as well. You mentioned a lot of good bands, but myall time favourites are: Brand X, Fire Merchants, and underrated band called NOVA..
Nova's "Vimana" also contrubuted with Phil Collins on drums. Great album
Good luck, collecting
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 04:29
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How about Napoli Centrale, guys?
They play exciting jazz-rock (a la Weather Report it seems to me) with strong mediterranean flavour thanks to neapolitan dialect lyrics and sounds. I recommend their self titled album and the following Mattanza (1975 and 1976).
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 04:47
With "Rosso Napoletano" by Tony Esposito the born of "Neapolitan Beat". The origins of this band is the same origins of Osanna because James Senese and Del Prete are From one band called Showmen like Elio D'Anna!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 07:15
Napoli Centrale hem? Gotta try to acquire those two, sounds interesting...
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Posted By: Tetragon
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 08:39
| DEDALUS Italy answer to THE SOFT MACHINE.. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 11:00
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I think I`ve mentioned this somewhere but for some reason there seems to be a black hole somewhere and things just disappear. Anyway, the guy who produced Madonna`s debut, Reggie Lucas, was also a killer jazz guitar player. He also toured with Miles and played on a few of his Electric Band albums. If you cand find it, Survival Themes is quite interesting with a mix of laid back fusion and electric guitar freakouts. Sort of reminds me of Abercrombie`s first Gateway album. No idea whether or not it got released on CD. Maybe Wounded Bird Records will pick it up. ------------- |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 13:42
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BUMP.
So, no repsponse on this?
Here's an article from today posted at All About Jazz.com about the Cryptogramophone label and its musicians:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=26542 - http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=26542
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 13:55
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 14:21
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I`ve seen this band, Spaced Out, a few times in Montréal and have three of their albums. Heavily influenced by UZEB but a little heavier. Killer bass player. They`re in the archives and you can check out a few of thier wild videos on their web-site particularily the video for Anti-matter. Really tripped out. If you`re into Planet X this should turn your wheel as well. Killer stuff.
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Posted By: Peto
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 15:47
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I would also recommend Jazz Q from Czech republic
Modrý efekt from Czech republic Fermáta from Slovakia Czeslaw Niemen from Poland SBB from Poland |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 15:57
Definitely! As it comes to Niemen, though, some of his albums are rather electronic than jazzrock (Aerolit, Katharsis - fully electronic, Idee Fixe, Terra Deflorata). His ultimate jazzrock masterpiece is Marionetki. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 16:03
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Have I mentioned Laboratorium in this thread?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 19:19
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The Relesase Music Orchestra is another example of great fusion. The best fusion band of all time, however, are the United Jazz and Rock ensemble (which is not in the archives yet). The line-up alone is fantastic: Jon Hiseman -drums, Eberhard Weber - bass, Volker Kriegel - guitar, Wolfgang Dauner - keyboards, Albert Mangelsdorff - trombone, Ian Carr - trumpet, Ack van Royen - trumpet and flugelhorn, Barbara Thompson - saxes and flutes, Charlie Mariano - saxes and nagaswaram. On their second album Kenny Wheeler (flugelhorn) joined. They should definitely be included in the database.
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 21:01
Yes, I should definitely check them out!! What album could you recommend to start? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 03:43
Definitely Modern Pentathlon and Quasimodo. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 07:45
Well then I suggest that you try to add this group and work on a Bio for them, I got interested in them! Do you know an album I should get, or someplace I can get to listen some mp3 of them? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/LeInsomniac/?chartstyle=volta">
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 08:29
There are some videos of them on YouTube, with Dave King replacing Eberhard Weber. Here the links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtpdmjnLnTw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtpdmjnLnTw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1qxvJy7Nc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1qxvJy7Nc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DX4IW1aAsc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DX4IW1aAsc I hope these videos whet your appetite for more. Their albums are available from Mood records. Here the link: http://www.jazzpages.com/MoodRecords/mood_ef.htm - http://www.jazzpages.com/MoodRecords/mood_ef.htm Start with their first album "Live im Schützenhaus" from 1977 and work your way forward from there. Fusion of the very finest; they definitely don't have to hide from anyone. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 11:00
Of course the great Eberhard Weber should also be in Progarchives! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 14:56
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Killer groovy stuff !!! Is that a toilet plunger the trombone player is using for a mute?
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 15:13
Hmmm. The ensemble I don't know (I'll have to check the video's Friede posted), but Eberhard Weber solo might be a bit off limits for PA. I'm listening to Colours of Chlöe right now, and although it's really good stuff, it's not rock - and definitely not progressive rock. He's a great player though! ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 15:51
I agree about Weber, at least his solo albums and his band Colours; he is definitely jazz. But The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble don't have "Rock" in their name for nothing. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Sunhillow_
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 19:20
| Mahavishnu Orchestra!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to this 500 times and then you can die. hehehe |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 03:01
I agree with you. But I have some additional "spice";120 min DVD from different live performances
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:16
Yep, I got IN THE WEST (which is excellent) through Amazon.uk and I believe they often sell YUME NO OKA as well! |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:21
Of course it's jazz, but so are Weather Report, Pat Metheny and John Abercrombie. Eberhard Weber's prog affinities are at least as striking as theirs. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:25
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^ One can rock even without electric guitars; that's what Weather Report does.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:31
and the RFSQ |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:34
And the ELP. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:38
I had to google that  ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:44
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sorry... too many abbreviations
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:45
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Yeah, besides, we both know that YYNJJiQ is exclusively a guitar band, but hardly rocks at all. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:47
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yes, and the great BRTFoMUotQ
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:49
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How could I forget them? Almost as good as NiBBLoTaSS. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Tetragon
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 05:35
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COLEY 'GOODBYE BRAINS'
If your into Nucleus you'll love these.Forget about a CD issue though.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 16:18
Oh, so THAT's what they do, eh? Now that sounds REALLY convincing!  As for Eberhard Weber, of course he's a jazz musician, but on albums like SILENT FEET and YELLOW FIELDS he "approaches" (as it were) symphonic prog from a jazz angle, just as Pat Metheny did on (among others) THE WAY UP. Weber may not be a ROCKER, but neither is blooming Klaus Schulze...
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 16:23
I don't want to convince you of anything  , but maybe you haven't listened to Black Market. They do rock, there (among other things of course). And that is definitely not jazz. They may be a lot more jazzier on other albums, but I think Black Market is the most relevant regarding their presence on the PA.------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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