Hostel, ect.... movie's from Hell

i don't really care for such movies actually, although i don't know why people could enjoy such scenes...each to his own perhaps...

SoundsofSeasons wrote:     Warning: The following is Violent Subject Matter!     Last night, while listening to my free Podcasts that i get from Itunes, i heard someone talking about Hostel and clones of it. I did a search off wikipedia, curious as to exactly what these movies were all about, and was shocked by what i read about it's contents. Torture-porn..what the hell is that? I read a lengthy paragraph summarizing the story of Hostel and it's purposes. At the bottom of the page was another short article even more shocking then the one on the movie. It read.   "On June 15 2007 a 28 year old man, Björn Jue, was strapped to a chair and tortured to death in the town of Pernis, The Netherlands. The suspected murderers, Jeffrey van S. and Walter A. (25) are said to have been inspired by a gruesome torture scene in "Hostel 2", which they reenacted after Jeu's ex-girlfriend, Marian D. (24) told them he had repeatedly molested his 5-year old son; however this accusation has not been confirmed so far. Two police officers arrived at the scene after calls that Jue was "held against his will". Jeu was screaming for his life. However, the officers did not enter the house and called for backup because this is standard procedure when a hostage situation is suspected. When backup arrived half an hour later (some witnesses claim it was more than an hour later), the screaming had stopped. Jeu died at the scene. Full details were not disclosed for being "too horrible and beyond imagination."   Holy crap, this is some sick stuff. Later i talked with my dad about it, and learned that this sick sadistic crap is actally real. I don't really want to know any more, but i guess growing up you need to learn just how evil the world can be. My point?   Do you believe movies like Hostel should be made, thus promoting and CELEBRATING this horrific practice? If so, why, and whom should be able to get a hold of it.   On a side note, and as an anecdote, this is a quote from the director of the movie. He says this live on the Fox News channel after being told by someone his movie is far too violent and serves no purpose other than to promote the twisted acts.   "...George Bush and Dick Cheney kill Americans for real in Iraq so their oil companies will profit off the deaths".    So this somehow justifies his movies??? LOL! Wow, this guy won't be making another movie in America anytime soon . What an idiot.

You really think so? That comment probably made him even more popular with Hollywood marketing people. I do think these movies (along with a lot of others) are pure crap, but people go to see them. It's not for me to say what can, or cannot be made. That's called censorship. If had my way, Will Farrell and Adam Sandler would be arrested if they ever got in front of a camera again. Not that I think their movies cause people to to commit brutal acts, but they do lower the standard of overall quality. In the end, sick people are sick before they see movies. The movie may have inspired the method, but something bad was going to happen. Even if the torturer had gone to see "The Sound of Music," a heinous crime would have taken place.




Edited by bhikkhu - August 03 2007 at 08:37

Such ultra-violent, pointless "art" is sick, degenerate "entertainment," and its growing popularity is a symptom of a much larger social problem, IMO. I wonder to what extent such movies, etc, not only feed on disfunction and inhumanity, but actually encourage and contribute to it.

Edited by Peter - August 03 2007 at 13:24

Films like these are sick; I voted the third option. The most disgusting part is that a film like "Hostel" is considered tame, watered down, and mainstream to the underground group of perverts interested in torture films. These films feed a inhumane desire in the avid viewers of these movies and can do nothing but harm. 

I think those movies are total trash.Just violence for violence sake.

I haven't seen Hostel.

But in the current state of films, I can't think of any film that deserves an NC-17 rating, other than pure porno movies. NC-17 is simply the rating the MPAA gives to films they don't want to make money. There is hardly any difference in rating between R and NC-17, but most theaters won't play an NC-17 rated movie, which is bullsh*t. If theaters started to carry NC-17 movies, then fine, but right now, the whole system is corrupt and unfair to the person who wants to look for films out of the sickening corporate loop .

ive seen it, I didn't like it and thought it was gross. however people arn't really being killed, its not like child pornography (wich is and should be cencored) If you dont want to see the movies dont.

Artistically, GARBAGE. As morals go, DANGEROUS. The fact that they're so successful, DISTURBING. As movies, TRASH....

I'm perfectly OK with those kinds of movies being made, but I will never see them and do not understand the following of them.  Parents need to be responsible though and not let their young children see those films which unfortunately, some do.  Oh well. 


This film however, is 31 years old and still being banned:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal%C3%B2_o_le_120_giornate_di_Sodoma