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    Posted: July 23 2007 at 08:44

When it comes to identifying a country of origin that a band comes from where there is a shared band name it seems there is no real standard applied in PA. As an example you will find bands from France with either (FRA) or (FR) as a country identifier, or from Italy the code may be (ITA) or (IT)...

 
 
 
 
 
My suggestion: PA should adopt the Standard 'Olympic' Country Codes for applying the country of origin as a standard, giving consistency of entry of information in PA. The list of codes can be found here:
 
 
I understand this is not a 'biggie' but consistency of entry of information leads to better understanding of what people are reading and does make things a little more 'professional'.
 
Anyway, a little something to think about in amongst all the other things.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2007 at 11:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2007 at 09:48
Absolutely agree ... we should be consistent .... I'll have a look at it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 14:35

OK, I prepared a list… I shan’t change the entries due to the problems with the diacritic signs in my computer. The correct code of a country is below each group of bands.

 

There are three groups that should be discussed.

 

1. Bands with the same names:

 

AMAROK -- Prog Folk – Spain

 

AMAROK (POL) -- Crossover Prog -- Poland

 

Should be – ESP, POL         ***

 

AMON DάάL – Krautrock – Germany

 

AMON DάάL (UK) – Krautrock -- United Kingdom

 

Should be – GER, GBR      ***

 

ANDROMEDA (SWEDEN) -- Progressive Metal – Sweden

 

ANDROMEDA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom

 

Should be – SWE, GBR        ***

 

ANOMALY -- Progressive Metal – Netherlands

 

ANOMALY (USA) -- Progressive Metal -- United States

 

Should be – NED, USA        ***

 

BRAINSTORM -- Jazz Rock/Fusion – Germany

 

BRAINSTORM (AUS) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- Australia

 

Should be – GER, AUS        ***

 

CARTOON -- RIO/Avant-Prog -- United States

 

CARTOON (BR) -- Prog Related -- Brazil

 

Should be – USA, BRA          ***

 

CLEPSYDRA -- Neo Progressive – Switzerland

 

CLEPSYDRA (IT) -- Italian Symphonic Prog -- Italy

 

Should be – SUI, ITA          ***

 

DEJA-VU (JA) -- Symphonic Prog – Japan

 

DEJA-VU (NO) -- Heavy Prog -- Norway

 

Should be – JPN, NOR          ***

 

DELIRIUM (ITA) -- Italian Symphonic Prog – Italy

 

DELIRIUM (ME) -- Crossover Prog -- Mexico

 

Should be – ITA, MEX           ***

 

DRAMA (FR) -- Symphonic Prog – France

 

DRAMA (UR) -- Neo Progressive -- Uruguay

 

Should be – FRA, URU          ***

 

EDEN -- Prog Folk – Germany

 

EDEN (FR) -- Progressive Electronic – France

 

EDEN * -- Symphonic Prog -- Canada

 

Should be – GER, FRA, CAN                ***

 

ERGO SUM (CHI) -- Prog Folk – Chile

 

ERGO SUM (FR) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- France

 

Should be – CHI, FRA       ***

 

ET CETERA (CA) -- Eclectic Prog – Canada

 

ETCETERA (DK) -- Symphonic Prog -- Denmark

 

??? Denmark is DEN, but should it be stated at all? – the names of the bands are different. I suggest to delete the names of countries.

 

GALADRIEL -- Neo Progressive – Spain

 

GALADRIEL (AUS) -- Prog Folk -- Australia

 

Should be – ESP, AUS       ***

 

GALAHAD (EN) -- Neo Progressive -- United Kingdom

 

GALAHAD (GE) -- Prog Folk -- Germany

 

Should be – GBR, GER          ***

 

LIFE -- Crossover Prog – Sweden

 

LIFE (GER) – Krautrock -- Germany

 

Should be – SWE, GER        ***

 

MIRAGE -- Italian Symphonic Prog – Italy

 

MIRAGE (EN) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- United Kingdom

 

MIRAGE (FRA) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- France

 

Should be – ITA, GBR, FRA

 

NAUTILUS -- Progressive Electronic – Germany

 

NAUTILUS (SWI) -- Symphonic Prog -- Switzerland

 

Should be – GER, SUI         ***

 

NOW -- Neo Progressive – Belgium

 

NOW (USA) -- Prog Related -- United States

 

Should be – BEL, USA      ***

 

OCTOPUS (CHI) -- Progressive Metal – Chile

 

OCTOPUS (EN) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- United Kingdom

 

OCTOPUS (GE) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- Germany

 

Should be – CHI, GBR, GER      ***

 

PROVIDENCE -- Neo Progressive – Japan

 

PROVIDENCE (US) -- Prog Folk -- United States

 

Should be – JPN, USA          ***

 

PYRAMID – Krautrock – Germany

 

PYRAMID -- Progressive Metal -- Spain

 

Should be – GER, ESP         ***

 

TEMPEST -- Prog Folk -- United States

 

TEMPEST (UK) -- Heavy Prog -- United Kingdom

 

Should be – USA, GBR       ***

 

TRESPASS (GE) -- Symphonic Prog – Germany

 

TRESPASS (IS) -- Symphonic Prog -- Israel

 

Should be – GER, ISR         ***

 

UTOPIA -- Eclectic Prog -- United States

 

UTOPIA (GERMANY) – Krautrock -- Germany

 

Should be – USA, GER        ***

 

VIRUS -- Progressive Metal – Norway

 

VIRUS -- Heavy Prog -- Germany

 

Should be – NOR, GER         ***

 

 

2. Bands with the similar names: Here the difference is in a diacritic sign only. I think these bands also should bear the countries codes beside them.

 

AGORA -- Progressive Metal – Mexico

 

AGORΐ (ITA) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- Italy

 

Should be – MEX, ITA        ***

 

CAPHARNAUM -- Progressive Metal -- United States

 

CAPHARNAάM -- Heavy Prog -- Canada

 

Should be – USA, CAN

 

RAGNARΦK -- Prog Folk – Sweden

 

RAGNAROK (NZ) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- New Zealand

 

Should be – SWE, NZL

 

3. Bands without the counterpart but with the country marker (for what reason?):I suggest to delete the countries codes.

 

ANIMA (AR) -- Symphonic Prog -- Argentina

GRACE (EN) -- Neo Progressive -- United Kingdom

INFINITY (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- United States

JEREMY (USA) -- Crossover Prog -- United States

MERLIN (GER) -- Symphonic Prog -- Germany

NIRVANA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom

RELAYER (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- United States

TARKUS (BR) -- Symphonic Prog -- Brazil

 

Eugene

 
 
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Edited by Fassbinder - October 12 2007 at 14:14
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 14:41
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

3. Bands without the counterpart but with the country marker (for what reason?):I suggest to delete the countries codes.

 

ANIMA (AR) -- Symphonic Prog -- Argentina

GRACE (EN) -- Neo Progressive -- United Kingdom

INFINITY (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- United States

JEREMY (USA) -- Crossover Prog -- United States

MERLIN (GER) -- Symphonic Prog -- Germany

NIRVANA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom

RELAYER (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- United States

TARKUS (BR) -- Symphonic Prog -- Brazil

 

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I suppose there are bands with the same or similar names that are not prog and thus are not in the archives. That's the case of NIRVANA for instance. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 14:44
BTW, how would you solve the case of IRON MAIDEN? We've got one IRON MAIDEN from UK and we're probably going to have another band with the same name from the same country (or do we have them already?).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 15:37
If we have two bands with the same name from the same country, there should be another determinators (or how do you say it in English?).
 
For example, there are two Camels in PA, differentiated by the years of activity:
CAMEL Symphonic Prog United Kingdom
CAMEL (60'S) Psychedelic/Space Rock United Kingdom
 
(these two entries should be updated too, I think...)
 
 
There is another example:
LEVIATHAN (ITA) Neo Progressive Italy
LEVIATHAN (USA 70S) Crossover Prog United States
LEVIATHAN (USA 90S) Progressive Metal United States


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 15:39
If both the name and the years of activity are the same, you may put a subgenre as a determinator...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 15:41
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

3. Bands without the counterpart but with the country marker (for what reason?):I suggest to delete the countries codes.

 

ANIMA (AR) -- Symphonic Prog -- Argentina

GRACE (EN) -- Neo Progressive -- United Kingdom

INFINITY (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- United States

JEREMY (USA) -- Crossover Prog -- United States

MERLIN (GER) -- Symphonic Prog -- Germany

NIRVANA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom

RELAYER (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- United States

TARKUS (BR) -- Symphonic Prog -- Brazil

 

Eugene



I suppose there are bands with the same or similar names that are not prog and thus are not in the archives. That's the case of NIRVANA for instance. Smile
 
Of course this is the case, there shouldn't be any doubt about it.
 
But still, I don't think we need it unless the other band (say, Nirvana of the USA) is added to PA...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 17:01
Superb work Fassbinder!Thumbs%20UpClap
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Also:
 
Ark (NO)
Ark (EN)
 
Now fixed!
 
EDIT: Both Ark share the same picture! Confused


Edited by Atkingani - September 10 2007 at 20:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 20:24
I've missed the Ark pair... Embarrassed
 
Thanks, Guigo!
 
By the way, is it possible to move this thread to the "Errors & Omissions" section?
 
I think it'll be more helpful there.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
 
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Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

I've missed the Ark pair... Embarrassed
 
Thanks, Guigo!
 
By the way, is it possible to move this thread to the "Errors & Omissions" section?
 
I think it'll be more helpful there.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
 
Eugene
 
Done! Smile
 
BTW, I think we have to find a standard for the bands' names, some are all in capital letters and some (the majority) have only the initial as capital. Anyway, some bands like UK or IZZ, maybe should be displayed in all capitals.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2007 at 20:52
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

I've missed the Ark pair... Embarrassed
 
Thanks, Guigo!
 
By the way, is it possible to move this thread to the "Errors & Omissions" section?
 
I think it'll be more helpful there.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
 
Eugene
 
Done! Smile
 
BTW, I think we have to find a standard for the bands' names, some are all in capital letters and some (the majority) have only the initial as capital. Anyway, some bands like UK or IZZ, maybe should be displayed in all capitals.  
 
Thanks! (already appeared in the edit of my previous post)
 
 
Yes, maybe. The differences exist now, but they are possible to be seen only in editing zone, not in the alphabet pages and bands/artists ones. Thus, how many of the site users know that the Armenian Prog-Folk band lead by Vahan Artsruni is called ARTSRUNI and not Artsruni? -- it is impossible to see from the mentioned pages (I found that simply by chance...) Somehow all the letters become upper-cased when appearing in alphabet lists...
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Yes, you're right, Mr. Errors & Omissions Repairer! Wink
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 AGORA -- Progressive Metal – Mexico

 

AGORΐ (ITA) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- Italy

 

Should be – MEX, ITA

 
 
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AMAROK -- Prog Folk – Spain

 

AMAROK (POL) -- Crossover Prog -- Poland

 

Should be – ESP, POL

 
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ANDROMEDA (SWEDEN) -- Progressive Metal – Sweden

 

ANDROMEDA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom

 

Should be – SWE, GBR

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2007 at 13:40
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

AMAROK -- Prog Folk – Spain

 

AMAROK (POL) -- Crossover Prog -- Poland

 

Should be – ESP, POL

 
Done   (Who?)
 
I did it as a test... Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2007 at 13:46
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

AMAROK -- Prog Folk – Spain

 

AMAROK (POL) -- Crossover Prog -- Poland

 

Should be – ESP, POL

 
Done   (Who?)
 
I did it as a test... Embarrassed
 
On the contrary, muito obrigado (as you like to say...)! Thumbs%20Up
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