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Atavachron
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:06 |
but you haven't shown the Who to not be proto-progressive, whereas it's a fact of history that Pantera weren't related to prog in the slightest, historically or musically. In other words, they're a bad comparitive example.
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:13 |
Well, The Who arent realy on the top of the list either!
I really cant name a prog band that has taken influence from the who that you can hear in the muzac
And besides the underture, there is only two other songs that I knw of that hit the six minete mark!
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:24 |
bands that were proto-progressive had an influence on prog, exhibiting, and I quote, "new, sophisticated ways of playing music"
Edited by Atavachron - July 22 2007 at 00:24
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:32 |
Well, I would hardly call the who new and sophisticated.
Besides Keiths drums, and maybe a couple of basslines from John, I really dont see what seperates them during the british invasion and classic rock scene
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mystic fred
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:40 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Well, I would hardly call the who new and sophisticated.
Besides Keiths drums, and maybe a couple of basslines from John, I really dont see what seperates them during the british invasion and classic rock scene |
try listening to some of their music ...
Edited by mystic fred - July 22 2007 at 00:41
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:41 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
AND YES, I have 3 albums and quite a few compilations! SO DONT TELL ME TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING! |
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:44 |
The Who Sell Out 1967
Tommy May, 1969
..not telling you to "listen", but to consider as examples
Edited by Atavachron - July 22 2007 at 00:46
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:47 |
Tommy IMO is really not that sophisticated an "out there"
Besides the concept behind it, the music dosent stand out.
Pete Townsend wrote a good story... and?
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 00:58 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Tommy IMO is really not that sophisticated an "out there"
Besides the concept behind it, the music dosent stand out.
Pete Townsend wrote a good story... and? |
Pete Townsend wrote a story that the band fashioned into a complete thematic work at a level not fully realized by previous rock concept albums, such as the Ventures Colorful Ventures, Sgt. Pepper's, or Brian Wilson's Smiley Smile, each featuring loosely connected ideas but no true fable presented from beginning to end. It was an important breakthrough.
Edited by Atavachron - July 22 2007 at 00:59
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:04 |
Well you have a point there, I wont lie...
I still cant comprehend the who being consedered in the least
... but I have no more stuff to throw at you so you win
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:34 |
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:34 |
It got intense!
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:38 |
Well, just as long as nobody got hurt...or changed the lyrics to "Barbra O'Reilly" too much...it's okay by me. I'm going to take it you're not so happy with the inclusion of the Who here?
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:39 |
No I'm quite upset, they are not prog.
But hell, there is nothing I can do except whine.
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:41 |
hey schitzoid, you actually put up a very decent argument
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:43 |
really thanks actveritoncjd]
I didnt think I was capable of keeping up with you
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:46 |
Schizo, might I suggest that you screw Tommy and go straight for the Quad? The songs tend to be longer (barring the over-and-underture), and they're fairly layered. Sometimes complex even. And I think you need to remember that Townshead is just as pretentious as all the young dudes who play "real" prog.
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:48 |
I have quad.
A good album, but it seems all the songs are just verse, chorus, verse
But Doll-tree's voice is at it's best on this album
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:54 |
Really now? True, some of the numbers are less ambitious, but stuff like "Doctor Jimmy," "Sea and Sand," even "Cut My Hair" are more layered than your standard pop material.
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Dim
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Posted: July 22 2007 at 01:55 |
I guess
My favirote is probably drowned
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