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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 00:43
Originally posted by Skoojoo Skoojoo wrote:

ok, all i know is that rap IS NOT MUSIC... its Rhythm And Poetry, neither are music, so combined... they dont make music. Doing it in strange time signatures WILL NOT make progressive MUSIC!!! thus should not even be considered by people who listen to MUSIC as... music, and should not be placed anywhere near this site... but yet, it is a progressive site, but all based on progressive MUSIC. so is this site progressive music site or a progressive... site?


Thanks for the forewarning, I was tempted to check the genre out... thankfully I didn't waste any of my money on this sh*t!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 01:29
Only the music snobs that say "anything other than Progressive (or jazz or classical) is 'popular' music" accually CONSIDER rhythm as music. Being a backbone doesnt make it a whole being, African Drumlines are infact... not music. Drums are made to keep the music at pace (and maybe entertain with solos and such) but who the hell has ever heard of a rap-drum solo? It is NOT music for infact it is an element to create music, you CAN have music without a drum, but you cant have music without instruments that create notes, drums have PITCHES not a NOTES. There is rap-music fusions, but that is music, not simply rap, it has musical elements. I know music definitions, but i also know REALITY!!!! a ficticious place to many in this site, from what i can tell.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 02:07
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:


Fair enough, but some people here want to keep rap as far away as possible from Progarchives. This album will definitely be a shocker for them.

 
Almost as many people that want to keep out POP from PA, but hey, if you want to have all Genesis discography you need to add Invisible Touch.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 06:36
Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

I need rap in my prog about as much as I need a scorching case of genital warts. Keep 'em separated...on both counts!!!

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Why can't rap and prog be together?


I clearly stated that I don't need rap in MY prog as I simply don't care for the genre. If you want it, then by all means go crazy. I, on the other hand, don't need it nor do I want it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 14:17
Originally posted by Skoojoo Skoojoo wrote:

Only the music snobs that say "anything other than Progressive (or jazz or classical) is 'popular' music" accually CONSIDER rhythm as music. Being a backbone doesnt make it a whole being, African Drumlines are infact... not music. Drums are made to keep the music at pace (and maybe entertain with solos and such) but who the hell has ever heard of a rap-drum solo? It is NOT music for infact it is an element to create music, you CAN have music without a drum, but you cant have music without instruments that create notes, drums have PITCHES not a NOTES. There is rap-music fusions, but that is music, not simply rap, it has musical elements. I know music definitions, but i also know REALITY!!!! a ficticious place to many in this site, from what i can tell.


First of all, don't call me a music snob. You don't know me so stop the presumptions and insults.

Second, where did you find all those "facts" that you're talking about? The last time I checked African Drumlines are music. Rhythm is music. It's one of the three fundamental elements in music (others being harmony and melody, but you already know that), but rhythm is the only essential element of the three and, no, drums aren't the only instrument capable of making rhythm so I don't know why you brought that out to the discussion.

You can music without a drum, but you can't have music without rhythm although you can have music without harmony or melody.

Also, Rap / Hip-hip music isn't only based on rhythm. It has harmony and melodies as well. You need to stop dismissing and actually pay attention to the music and you'll see what I mean.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 19:22
hehe... so by this unquestionable 'fact', which has been back by concrete logic, it seems about 50% of my collection is not actually music. I cannot tell you how surprised and confounded I was to be pulled out of my ficticious reverie to discover most of the time I don't actually listen to music. Really quite astounding! I guess it is all that dope I have been smoking recently.

Ruben, out of interest have you heard any 'Chopped and screwed'? I have been listening to some of DJ Screw's music lately, I thought it was pretty cool. You should be able to find a good amount of information on his music at 'Allmusic.com' if you are interested.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 19:48
Thanks Adam, I'll check out DJ Screw. I've been sidetracked alot with new albums to listen to and work from the teams, but I'll look for him.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2007 at 19:56
^^^ No worries, take your time, I understand about the team listening. I might suggest 3 in Da Morning part 2 as a good starting place. He has over 150 albums, so it is quite hard to know  where to start . 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2007 at 04:39
hey man im not blowing my own horn but you want to hear some progressive crrpto funk rap.  Check out my website  www.joemorris.net and listen to a song frommyy cd called Arrhythmia.  The song is called Decon Recon  You might like it
 
 
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