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SgtPepper67 
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Posted: October 19 2007 at 21:47 |
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As you may guess by my nickname, I'm a huge fan of this album. Although it is not my favourite Beatles album (Abbery Road is), it is definitely and undeniably one of the greatest albums ever and probably the most influential, and without a doubt was an influence for most prog bands that would start appearing in the next few years.
I also think it was somehow a concept album, thought not lyrically, but in the way it was conceived and created.
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Sydwaters
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Posted: October 18 2007 at 19:53 |
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A Day in the Life, Within You Without You and Mr. Kite are prog songs. The album the way it was sequenced and with the reprise tacted on makes it a concept album. A Conept Album not in the theme sense but more in a musical sense. Anyhow the album was a blueprint for future progressive rockers. I would say it was Revolver that is the better album. Revolver and Sgt Peppers are the biggest reasons why rock went away from its 50's roots. Those albums put art rock, psychedelic, and experimental rock on the map due to its sheer album sales and fusion with pop.
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Posted: October 18 2007 at 02:44 |
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It was a concept album as the concept was they became a totaly different band and wrote and played what that band would write and play. The only song written by the Beatles as the Beatles was A Day in the Life. This song in particuler is one of the deepest (lyricly) songs in the history of pop music (prog is pop music)
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meinmatrix
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:12 |
 Lota wrote:
Sgt Pepper told the band to play. June 1 1967. Any thought about this album?
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I have had this album as a cassette, vinyl album and cd. The vinyl album artwork is amazing. The music itself is superb and it doesn't decay with time like so many other works from that era. Now to those of you who dare to say that Sgt Pepper has some filler songs. No it doesn't. It is a solid concept album. If i had to name 3 most important albums of all times, i would say Elvis 1956, Sgt Pepper and Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen. These are the albums that changed music world as we know it.
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dedokras
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 10:57 |
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yes, it is true the Beatles are not prog and Sgt is not a concept album. it is also true that they are the most important band ever and this is one of their greatest albums alongside Revolver and Abbey Road
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 04:16 |
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Floydoid
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 04:14 |
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There's no getting away from the fact that Sgt Pepper is one of the great landmark albums in the history of rock/pop. For the first time the Beatles conceived the project as an album (originally to be a double), and with all the tracks flowing into each other. But after the sequence of the title track / with a little help / Lucy in the sky, they found it too difficult and the rest was done as separate tracks. The masterpiece of course is 'A Day in the Life' - probably the most important track they ever recorded.
As for the discussions about whether it is a concept album or not, it does have a loose theme of 'putting on a show' running through it. Personally I find Abbey Road to be the most satisfying album they recorded, and that was done at a time they were falling apart.
Just my twopennorth.
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 01:50 |
ClassicRocker wrote:
... Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help.." was much better... |
And John Belushi's 'cover' on Cocker's cover on SNL in the late 1970s was the best yet  (yeah, you could tell Cocker was pissed at John for that satire)...
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Posted: June 07 2007 at 21:03 |
bruin69 wrote:
The Beatles wrote some very pleasant pop songs, with some quite clever harmonies, and added some sound effects. They were a very good band. But to me, they were not prog. But who am I to argue with the eleventy scrillion who think they're great?  |
Well, they're not prog, and so what? Are being a prog band and being great mutually exclusive?
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Posted: June 07 2007 at 10:23 |
^ oooh Strawberry Alarm Clock - Incence and Peppermints ... I use to love that song when I was a kid 
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Posted: June 07 2007 at 08:20 |
some more interesting facts about Sgt.Pepper...
and many other popular albums released in 1967 - a lot of pop, jazz, psyche and some early proto-prog, just to put Sgt.Pepper into context with its peers, though few have stood the test of time since that date...
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Posted: June 07 2007 at 07:50 |
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And June 1 2007 was the day I heard the album for the first time.  |
So how's it been?
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Posted: June 07 2007 at 07:41 |
Yep, I have the vinyl with all the cardboard cut-outs still intact. Actually bought it in the early 70's, still at school but aware that it was meant to be special. Yep, I have the CD which is what I play maybe once per year, just to remind myself how good it is. After all this time, there is always something new to notice.
If it's not the greatest album ever, maybe we can all agree that it was (and still is) hugely influential and hugely enjoyable. God, if only I had co-written those songs, what a proud and happy guy I'd be.
Unfair perhaps to try to pigeonhole the album 40 years later as being "concept" or "prog" or any other label. Back then, it was "popular music" and there was simply nothing of a comparable standard with which to equate it. Even those blessed with 20/20 hindsight should surely be able to appreciate why that makes it special !!
Slightly off topic, does anyone genuinely believe that they have an all-time favourite album? Isn't the reality that we all have quite a few favourites which all jostle for position depending on our mood and the day of the week? Sgt P isn't my favourite album of all time, except maybe when I haven't heard it for ages and I really want to listen to it NOW. Other times, Blonde on Blonde isn't my favourite, nor Foxtrot, nor Dark Side, nor Forever Changes, nor The Timedivers' new CD. But then all of sudden there they go again, back to the top of the list.
Or it just me?
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Posted: June 06 2007 at 16:49 |
And June 1 2007 was the day I heard the album for the first time.
Edited by Dalezilla - June 06 2007 at 16:50
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Posted: June 06 2007 at 16:47 |
It might not be everyone's favorite, but it influenced a lot of people at the time, namely a little L.A. band called The Doors.
In the liner notes to the new reissues, either Rothchild or Botnick confirmed playing Sgt. Pepper to the band and they really, really liked it. It convinced them to use the studio itself as an instrument, and with that in mind they recorded and released their best album, Strange Days.
So if only for that, it is a cornerstone album. I am sure there are more examples like this concerning Sgt. Pepper.
Edited by Melomaniac - June 06 2007 at 16:48
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 21:13 |
darqdean wrote:
febus wrote:
If not for SERGEANT PEPPERS, where would we be now??? it was the pandera's box that opened a lot of new musical inspirations and horizons, and it didn't stop only with the music.
Thanks PAUL MCCARTNEY  ......JOHN LENNON |
and George Martin and the Engineers at Abbey Road |
I think Paul thanks Brian Wilson ...  woof meow moo neighhhh ....
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bruin69
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 19:55 |
The Beatles wrote some very pleasant pop songs, with some quite clever harmonies, and added some sound effects. They were a very good band. But to me, they were not prog. But who am I to argue with the eleventy scrillion who think they're great?
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 16:04 |
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Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
June 1967
Capitol
The Beatles did three things that changed the course of popular music: 1) they wrote their own songs; 2) they took control of the recording process; and 3) they gave us Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. Released at the height of the summer of 1967, the Beatles had been off the road for almost eighteen months and immersed at Abbey Road studios. That it is a conceptual album, and not just a collection of songs, makes Sgt Pepper the landmark that it is. From the jacket photo, to the music on the vinyl, to even the cutout inserts inside, exercising their creativity was the Beatles end game, and in this album it would fully manifest. While others had attempted it, the Beatles delivered the object - a record album - that everyone wanted and would want to create. After the previous year’s masterpiece Revolver, the first hint of the Beatles next move appeared on the Penny Lane" b/w "Strawberry Fields Forever" single released in February. When Sgt. Peppers arrived in June, it was their most intellectual statement yet, raising the bar for all of Pop music. From the adult theme of "Getting Better" to the blatant psychedelia of "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds", the Beatles offer their most mature and cohesive effort, best encapsulated in the epic track "A Day In The Life". Equally important was the reception that their audience, indeed the world, had to the album. In addition to burgeoning awareness of psychedelia, the album coincided with the advent of stereo headphones, and was the first album to feature printed lyrics. All points connected: with Sgt. Peppers, the Beatles and producer George Martin captured the minds and imaginations of a world waiting to be captured. So enough has been written about this album and with good reason: British art rock starts here. This was the pretense under which most Progressive rock was made.
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 11:30 |
febus wrote:
If not for SERGEANT PEPPERS, where would we be now??? it was the pandera's box that opened a lot of new musical inspirations and horizons, and it didn't stop only with the music.
Thanks PAUL MCCARTNEY ......JOHN LENNON |
and George Martin and the Engineers at Abbey Road
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Chicapah
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 10:17 |
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When they had the big Beatles anthology on ABC way back when I remember being struck by something that Phil Collins said. I don't remember it word for word but it was something to the effect that Sgt. Peppers opened a whole lot of new doors and many bands like Genesis now looked in those rooms and said "Oh, you mean this room exists and we are free to go in there now?" That's what I think about with this monumental album. It made it okay to experiment freely without finding locked doors.
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