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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 03:41
What Sgt. Peppers did do was to inspire other bands to make amazing albums.The Zombies,Oddyssy (sic) and Oracle for example.Although, bands like Pink Floyd,The Who and The Moody Blues were working along the same lines comtemporarily.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 08:06

If not for SERGEANT PEPPERS, where would we be now??? it was the pandera's box that opened a lot of new musical inspirations and horizons, and it didn't stop only with the music.

Thanks   PAUL  MCCARTNEY Thumbs%20Up  ......JOHN LENNONThumbs%20Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 09:06
One of the first albums I ever bought (I was ten or something I think). Very good, but I rarely listen to it nowadays.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 09:12
My favorite Beatles album but not one of my favorite all-time albums.

I do understand though that it was one of the most important albums ever.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 09:28
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Lota Lota wrote:

Any thought about this album?


Yes.  I think it is the most important album in the history of rock music.
 
I agree 100%


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 10:17
When they had the big Beatles anthology on ABC way back when I remember being struck by something that Phil Collins said.  I don't remember it word for word but it was something to the effect that Sgt. Peppers opened a whole lot of new doors and many bands like Genesis now looked in those rooms and said "Oh, you mean this room exists and we are free to go in there now?"  That's what I think about with this monumental album.  It made it okay to experiment freely without finding locked doors.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 11:30
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

If not for SERGEANT PEPPERS, where would we be now??? it was the pandera's box that opened a lot of new musical inspirations and horizons, and it didn't stop only with the music.

Thanks   PAUL  MCCARTNEY Thumbs%20Up  ......JOHN LENNONThumbs%20Up
 
and George Martin and the Engineers at Abbey Road Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 16:04
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Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
June 1967
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The Beatles did three things that changed the course of popular music: 1) they wrote their own songs; 2) they took control of the recording process; and 3) they gave us Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. Released at the height of the summer of 1967, the Beatles had been off the road for almost eighteen months and immersed at Abbey Road studios. That it is a conceptual album, and not just a collection of songs, makes Sgt Pepper the landmark that it is. From the jacket photo, to the music on the vinyl, to even the cutout inserts inside, exercising their creativity was the Beatles end game, and in this album it would fully manifest. While others had attempted it, the Beatles delivered the object - a record album - that everyone wanted and would want to create. After the previous year’s masterpiece Revolver, the first hint of the Beatles next move appeared on the Penny Lane" b/w "Strawberry Fields Forever" single released in February. When Sgt. Peppers arrived in June, it was their most intellectual statement yet, raising the bar for all of Pop music. From the adult theme of "Getting Better" to the blatant psychedelia of "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds", the Beatles offer their most mature and cohesive effort, best encapsulated in the epic track "A Day In The Life". Equally important was the reception that their audience, indeed the world, had to the album. In addition to burgeoning awareness of psychedelia, the album coincided with the advent of stereo headphones, and was the first album to feature printed lyrics. All points connected: with Sgt. Peppers, the Beatles and producer George Martin captured the minds and imaginations of a world waiting to be captured. So enough has been written about this album and with good reason: British art rock starts here. This was the pretense under which most Progressive rock was made.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2007 at 19:55

The Beatles wrote some very pleasant pop songs, with some quite clever harmonies, and added some sound effects. They were a very good band. But to me, they were not prog. But who am I to argue with the eleventy scrillion who think they're great? Confused

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 21:13
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

If not for SERGEANT PEPPERS, where would we be now??? it was the pandera's box that opened a lot of new musical inspirations and horizons, and it didn't stop only with the music.

Thanks   PAUL  MCCARTNEY Thumbs%20Up  ......JOHN LENNONThumbs%20Up
 
and George Martin and the Engineers at Abbey Road Wink

I think Paul thanks Brian Wilson ...woof meow moo neighhhh ....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2007 at 16:47
It might not be everyone's favorite, but it influenced a lot of people at the time, namely a little L.A. band called The Doors.
 
In the liner notes to the new reissues, either Rothchild or Botnick confirmed playing Sgt. Pepper to the band and they really, really liked it.  It convinced them to use the studio itself as an instrument, and with that in mind they recorded and released their best album, Strange Days.
 
So if only for that, it is a cornerstone album.  I am sure there are more examples like this concerning Sgt. Pepper.


Edited by Melomaniac - June 06 2007 at 16:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2007 at 16:49

And June 1 2007 was the day I heard the album for the first time. Embarrassed



Edited by Dalezilla - June 06 2007 at 16:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2007 at 07:41
Yep, I have the vinyl with all the cardboard cut-outs still intact.  Actually bought it in the early 70's, still at school but aware that it was meant to be special.  Yep, I have the CD which is what I play maybe once per year, just to remind myself how good it is.  After all this time, there is always something new to notice.
 
If it's not the greatest album ever, maybe we can all agree that it was (and still is) hugely influential and hugely enjoyable.  God, if only I had co-written those songs, what a proud and happy guy I'd be.
 
Unfair perhaps to try to pigeonhole the album 40 years later as being "concept" or "prog" or any other label.  Back then, it was "popular music" and there was simply nothing of a comparable standard with which to equate it.  Even those blessed with 20/20 hindsight should surely be able to appreciate why that makes it special !!
 
Slightly off topic, does anyone genuinely believe that they have an all-time favourite album?  Isn't the reality that we all have quite a few favourites which all jostle for position depending on our mood and the day of the week?  Sgt P isn't my favourite album of all time, except maybe when I haven't heard it for ages and I really want to listen to it NOW.  Other times, Blonde on Blonde isn't my favourite, nor Foxtrot, nor Dark Side, nor Forever Changes, nor The Timedivers' new CD.  But then all of sudden there they go again, back to the top of the list.
 
Or it just me?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2007 at 07:50
Originally posted by Dalezilla Dalezilla wrote:

And June 1 2007 was the day I heard the album for the first time. Embarrassed



So how's it been?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2007 at 08:20
some more interesting facts about Sgt.Pepper...
 
 
 
and many other popular albums released in 1967 - a lot of pop, jazz, psyche and some early proto-prog, just to put Sgt.Pepper into context  with its peers, though few have stood the test of time since that date...
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2007 at 10:23
^ oooh Strawberry Alarm Clock - Incence and Peppermints ... I use to love that song when I was a kid Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2007 at 21:03
Originally posted by bruin69 bruin69 wrote:

The Beatles wrote some very pleasant pop songs, with some quite clever harmonies, and added some sound effects. They were a very good band. But to me, they were not prog. But who am I to argue with the eleventy scrillion who think they're great? Confused



Well, they're not prog, and so what?  Are being a prog band and being great mutually exclusive?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 01:50
Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:

... Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help.." was much better...
And John Belushi's 'cover' on Cocker's cover on SNL in the late 1970s was the best yet Wink (yeah, you could tell Cocker was pissed at John for that satire)...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2007 at 04:14
There's no getting away from the fact that Sgt Pepper is one of the great landmark albums in the history of rock/pop.  For the first time the Beatles conceived the project as an album (originally to be a double), and with all the tracks flowing into each other.  But after the sequence of the title track / with a little help / Lucy in the sky, they found it too difficult and the rest was done as separate tracks.  The masterpiece of course is 'A Day in the Life' - probably the most important track they ever recorded.

As for the discussions about whether it is a concept album or not, it does have a loose theme of 'putting on a show' running through it.  Personally I find Abbey Road to be the most satisfying album they recorded, and that was done at a time they were falling apart.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2007 at 04:16
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Originally posted by Dalezilla Dalezilla wrote:

And June 1 2007 was the day I heard the album for the first time. Embarrassed



So how's it been?
 
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