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MikeEnRegalia 
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 06:29 |
What do you think? Please only vote if you know the album, and try not to take any other Metallica album in consideration ... let's make this a poll specifically about this one album.  I choose: "progressive".
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 08:45 |
Surely it's a progressive album, which doesn't make it Prog though.
The title song is Prog though, and Orion is also very progressive, specially Burton's Bass that's awsome. And Ullrich's drumming on Disposable Heroes can't really be faulted if you like really fast tight runs.
Probable the best Metal album of all time if you'd ask me, and enough progressive music inside, a shame Burton died, wonder what AJFA would have sounded like if there was a bass present.
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 09:32 |
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For me slightly progressive. There is an enhancement of the more
elaborated elements in their music, but nothing that breaks with the
sound them and the similar bands were doing at that time.
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 09:43 |
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How about progmetal related? Or just thrash-metal?
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 09:51 |
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progressive with a small 'p' but not a big 'P'
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What?
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 11:26 |
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very progressive.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 11:32 |
 Rocktopus wrote:
How about progmetal related? Or just thrash-metal?
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the agony of choice ... I didn't include a choice like "progmetal related" because it's unlikely that such a category will be added to the archives. 
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Melomaniac
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 11:33 |
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We definitely need a PROTO PROG-METAL category...
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 15:12 |
I think it's Prog Metal, from the limited amount of that genre that I've heard.
There's nothing in, say, Dream Theater's "Images and Words" that's inherently more progressive than Master of Puppets - just more technically focussed.
Since the choice of Prog Metal isn't there, I chose progressive.
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 15:15 |
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Progressive, definitely!
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Rocktopus
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:15 |
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Melomaniac
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:17 |
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Songs like Master of Puppets, Sanitarium and Orion are definitely prog metal, the rest of the album is pure thrash metal, so I'd say the entire album is slightly progressive.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:17 |
^  honestly: I would agree that it would make sense to split prog-related at least into prog-rock-related, prog-metal-related and prog-fusion-related, but knowing the internal workings of the archives I'm very sure that they won't be introduced any time soon and that there's nothing that I can do about it. (and even if I could it's kind of low priority compared to adding new prog bands)
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:19 |
^^ Join the proto prog metal campaign !!!  
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Rocktopus
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:19 |
Melomaniac wrote:
We definitely need a PROTO PROG-METAL category... |
Hey Maniac. That's even more absurd than adding Metallica.
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:22 |
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From that other Metallica thread:
Canterbury related/jazzfusionrelated (Sun Ra, Coltrane, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Eric Dolphy etc)
Protoprogrelated (Kinks, Hollies, Bee Gees...)
progrelatedrelated (Coldplay, Keane, Green Day...)
Progressive electronic related (Orb, Orbital, Prodigy, Snap)
Its different being related to a subgenre of prog, than being directly related to prog.
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:22 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
We definitely need a PROTO PROG-METAL category... |
Hey Maniac. That's even more absurd than adding Metallica.
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I think it would make sense, as prog metal is a genre in itself, born of the fusion of metal and prog. They had to get their influences somewhere, just like prog bands were influenced by what we call proto prog bands. I don't see how the logic of this is faulty.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:34 |
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^That would be suitable for a progmetal-archive. Just like
Zeuhl-related or R.I.O related would be relevant in a Zeuhl or
R.I.O-archive.
Every band and artist ever, got their influences from somewhere.
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 11:53 |
Rocktopus wrote:
^That would be suitable for a progmetal-archive. Just like Zeuhl-related or R.I.O related would be relevant in a Zeuhl or R.I.O-archive.
Every band and artist ever, got their influences from somewhere. |
So the idea in itself isn't bad, but not suitable for PA, if I get your statement correctly ?
Oh well, I tried !
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 12:01 |
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It's "progressive" metal, but not "progressive metal." I voted slightly progressive. Good album though.
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