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Man Overboard
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Topic: You won't believe what happened at work tonight. Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:30 |
So I'm at work, and listening to Evergrey at a nice, respectable volume. This woman comes up and she's like "I LOVE HEAVY METAL! I LOVE KORN AND DISTURBED AND SEVENDUST AND LIMP BIZKIT!" I kind of shake my head a bit, but she won't go away, and she says (though not as eloquently as I'm typing it, her grammar made my head hurt), "Oh, and there's this new band I heard recently, they're as good as Korn! They're a new band, so you probably haven't heard of them, but they're called Porcupine Tree. I totally identify with their debut album, Fear Of A Blank Planet! I hate how people try to understand me, but their lyrics are so cool and make me wanna fight the man! I love getting stoned at the mall, and the video is sooooo awesome, it's just like my life!" Is this the audience Wilson is trying to reach?
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:33 |
nice
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:34 |
debut...album?
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Drew
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:35 |
Uh-oh.
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KoS
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:37 |
wow huh what the hell? should have played her some early stuff .
Edited by king of Siam - May 23 2007 at 01:37
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:42 |
sounds like something I'd say if I were stoned at the mall...
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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asimplemistake
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:47 |
I am sorry, but that story slightly disgusts me. I wonder how I would react to that....
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Man Overboard
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 02:11 |
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 02:13 |
Man Overboard wrote:
So I'm at work, and listening to Evergrey at a nice, respectable volume. This woman comes up and she's like "I LOVE HEAVY METAL! I LOVE KORN AND DISTURBED AND SEVENDUST AND LIMP BIZKIT!"
I kind of shake my head a bit, but she won't go away, and she says (though not as eloquently as I'm typing it, her grammar made my head hurt), "Oh, and there's this new band I heard recently, they're as good as Korn! They're a new band, so you probably haven't heard of them, but they're called Porcupine Tree. I totally identify with their debut album, Fear Of A Blank Planet! I hate how people try to understand me, but their lyrics are so cool and make me wanna fight the man! I love getting stoned at the mall, and the video is sooooo awesome, it's just like my life!"
Is this the audience Wilson is trying to reach?
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wasn't "this woman" really your boss who walked in...?
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Heptade
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 09:10 |
Major label, metal riffs, video...I mean, presumably they want to sell records, which means they have to reach beyond the cozy boundaries of ProgArchives for a bigger fanbase! Sure, some people are gonna think it's their debut. If it smartens her up a bit after listening to it a few times and allows her to quit Korn, that's fine!
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 09:35 |
Scary.
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Chicapah
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 10:00 |
Well, we couldn't keep Porcupine Tree a secret forever...
Next we'll be seeing Steven Wilson on the cover of People Magazine...
and pegged as Britney Spears' new beau....
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 10:55 |
FoaBP is definitely a nu-metal album. It has all the traits except the rap. The subject matter (mommy doesn't love me, think I'll go do some drugs) is just like any Korn or Papa Roach album.
Yeah. it's unfortunate, but PT has reached a lower common denominator.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 11:09 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
FoaBP is definitely a nu-metal album. It has all the traits except the rap. The subject matter (mommy doesn't love me, think I'll go do some drugs) is just like any Korn or Papa Roach album.
Yeah. it's unfortunate, but PT has reached a lower common denominator.
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What is more important is that the quality of the music is not inferior. Hell, any band that can manage to become mainstream with high quality songs over 10 minutes in this day and age deserve everything they get, and I'm happy for Wilson and PT. FOABP is an amazing album that, for once, has some proper promotion, and we all should be happy for them...
Music is what counts, not the hype... or are you people just listening to underground bands to be able to say you are "in the margin", and as soon as your favorite underground band starts getting the recognition they deserve while being true to themselves, you spit on them ?
That kind of attitude digusts me, to say the VERY least...
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 11:19 |
Man Overboard wrote:
Is this the audience Wilson is trying to reach?
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I have a very difficult time believing this is the case. I would see the situation as actually ironic. FOABP is commentary more than anything. Maybe the relation this woman found will open her eyes to what a waste her life might have become.
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 11:28 |
Melomaniac wrote:
GoldenSpiral wrote:
FoaBP is definitely a nu-metal album. It has all the traits except the rap. The subject matter (mommy doesn't love me, think I'll go do some drugs) is just like any Korn or Papa Roach album.
Yeah. it's unfortunate, but PT has reached a lower common denominator.
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What is more important is that the quality of the music is not inferior. Hell, any band that can manage to become mainstream with high quality songs over 10 minutes in this day and age deserve everything they get, and I'm happy for Wilson and PT. FOABP is an amazing album that, for once, has some proper promotion, and we all should be happy for them...
Music is what counts, not the hype... or are you people just listening to underground bands to be able to say you are "in the margin", and as soon as your favorite underground band starts getting the recognition they deserve while being true to themselves, you spit on them ?
That kind of attitude digusts me, to say the VERY least... |
Hey maybe, PT is already set upon building a sect of people who thought they were good until they became popular. Kind of like the Gabriel/Collins divide in Genesis, Barrett/Waters/Gilmour era Pink Floyd, or Dream Theater fans & non-fans. You know the type - " I used to love them when they were good". I just leave it to the group(s) to play what they want for whatever reason they want. If I don't like the new stuff, I still can play the old albums. And I see NO reasons why one would take it so seriously. As if it was something personal. But some people think they "own" the band. I do take offense in seeing Limp Bizkit, Korn et al described as metal. Sure, they got tagged with the nu-metal name, but it wasn't the "rap" aspect that I don't care for, rather the fact that the style got copied by so many crap bands, so quick & so shallow. 7string low tuned guitars, whiney "poor poor pitiful me" lyrics; after a bit you wonder if they can write anything even slightly different.
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 11:34 |
I don't think the lyrics are meant to be "whiny" or whatnot. "Stoned in the Mall again, terminally bored, shuffling through the stores", "Xbox, is a God to me". I don't think Wilson is trying to relate to that crowd in anyway, much like In Abstentia, he's talking about some of the attitudes of the younger generation. Hating parents, doing nothing, and being bored all day.
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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!
Al di Meola.
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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 11:34 |
debrewguy wrote:
Hey maybe, PT is already set upon building a sect of people who thought they were good until they became popular. Kind of like the Gabriel/Collins divide in Genesis, Barrett/Waters/Gilmour era Pink Floyd, or Dream Theater fans & non-fans. You know the type - " I used to love them when they were good".
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I don't think bands actually target a type of listener. Usually they write music they like. Their following is the type that like it as well or have found a new sound.
I could be mistaken, but I think when the audience changes, it merely is a result of a band changing direction. Good bands don't end up "sucking", normally. The listener just doesn't like the kind of music they changed to.
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 13:59 |
Man Overboard wrote:
So I'm at work, and listening to Evergrey at a nice, respectable volume. This woman comes up and she's like "I LOVE HEAVY METAL! I LOVE KORN AND DISTURBED AND SEVENDUST AND LIMP BIZKIT!"
I kind of shake my head a bit, but she won't go away, and she says (though not as eloquently as I'm typing it, her grammar made my head hurt), "Oh, and there's this new band I heard recently, they're as good as Korn! They're a new band, so you probably haven't heard of them, but they're called Porcupine Tree. I totally identify with their debut album, Fear Of A Blank Planet! I hate how people try to understand me, but their lyrics are so cool and make me wanna fight the man! I love getting stoned at the mall, and the video is sooooo awesome, it's just like my life!"
Is this the audience Wilson is trying to reach?
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I just had to laugh when I read this.
I always try to get some info about a band I just checked out before opening my mouth to others
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 14:48 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
Hey maybe, PT is already set upon building a sect of people who thought they were good until they became popular. Kind of like the Gabriel/Collins divide in Genesis, Barrett/Waters/Gilmour era Pink Floyd, or Dream Theater fans & non-fans. You know the type - " I used to love them when they were good".
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I don't think bands actually target a type of listener. Usually they write music they like. Their following is the type that like it as well or have found a new sound.
I could be mistaken, but I think when the audience changes, it merely is a result of a band changing direction. Good bands don't end up "sucking", normally. The listener just doesn't like the kind of music they changed to. |
Seems simple enough, eh ...
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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