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Asphalt
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 07 2006
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Points: 456
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Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:48 |
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
Ghandi 2 wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
UV were formed in the 70s. Mars Volta, GYBE, and Sigur Ros are post Radiohead, as for prog metal its outside my sphere. |
GYBE and Sigur Ros started at the same time as OK Computer. Not to mention that your reasoning is flawed because even if there were no creative bands that started from 1983 until 1997, GYBE sounds nothing like Radiohead, so even mentioning them in connection with Radiohead's timeframe is just silly. Even so, the original point was that Kid A is more innovative any everything from 1983 on combined, and GYBE, Taal, 65daysofstatic, Hella, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Mr Bungle, etc. are definately post-1983 and unquestionably very original. I am not saying that Kid A and OK Computer aren't original because even if they were influenced by Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada, Bjork, and The Pixies, everyone is influenced by something; but to say they are the only original group since 1983 only shows incredible ignorance about modern prog.
Moatilliatta wrote:
The Flower Kings and Spock's Beard may not be the most original of bands, though I really believe each of them have developed their own set of nuances that set them apart, but the certain thing is that they are not awful. | I politely disagree. |
I disagree I see a connection with GYBE and Sigur Ros with Radiohead, as for Bjork I think she's a load of . I think most contemporary Symphonic prog is rather weak and my views of innovation are clearly different from yours.
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I wasn't reffering to bands before Radiohead, but bands before Kid A, since that was your point of refference. Thus, my argumentation stays. As for GY!BE being connected to Radiohead, I fail to see that, maybe if you could develop a bit more on that. In what way would you say your view of innovation is different from ours?
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moreitsythanyou
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Joined: April 23 2006
Location: NYC
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Points: 11682
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Posted: April 22 2007 at 16:06 |
Personally I find Kid A/Amnesiac to be very innovative and a different outlook and version of post-rock. I guess it's innovative because it an blend the dynamics and stylistic properties of post-rock and incorporate elements of electronica and alternative. However, I can't say they influenced Godspeed, or the other two. Howeve, it is still very groundbreaking and has been attempted by never recreated.
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Atomic_Rooster
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 26 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 1210
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Posted: April 22 2007 at 16:10 |
Robert Wyatt has been constantly evolving with each new album and he's got a new album due out this fall! So that should be pretty awesome. I don't get why people don't like his newer stuff as much, but whatever; he's still as avant-garde as ever There are still some older bands around that are doing newer things, however, the new prog bands around like The Mars Volta etc... are very groundbreaking (don't diss it before you've heard it; if it helps cross out the name of the band on the album and put Yes or Genesis or whatever, and that should kill your bias ) But I do have to add that the new prog bands are not your daddy's prog bands, they have actually progressed sonically as to sound different from older musical ideas; I won't say that they are better or worse, but they are definitely progressive and definitely groundbreaking.
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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Dim
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 17 2007
Location: Austin TX
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Points: 6890
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Posted: April 22 2007 at 18:35 |
In my opinion, prog will pick itself up again just like metal and folk, they all have a low period for about five years then some new band or a good album will pop up and things will pick up again.
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 6336
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Posted: April 23 2007 at 00:15 |
Yes there is
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Cheesecakemouse
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 1751
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Posted: April 23 2007 at 01:25 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
In my opinion, prog will pick itself up again just like metal and folk, they all have a low period for about five years then some new band or a good album will pop up and things will pick up again. |
I agree.
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