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KoS 
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 Posted: March 01 2007 at 16:48 |
I have a gigabeat s60  works with Windows Media, and plays lots of video files. the only bad thing is the crappy battery life. about 4-6 hours.
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Tony R
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 17:58 |
I have a Creative Zen 20gb and I love it.
I will never buy an IPod. I have listened to my mates and I believe my Creative sounds better, though I did upgrade the phones to Sennheisers.
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Philéas
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 18:50 |
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I use a 2GB iPod Nano (the original version), and I'm not disappointed
with it at all. I have never had any troubles with it, I have dropped
it several times (not on purpose, of course, but by accident) and it
has continued working splendidly. It got a dent in the back from one of
the falls, but that hasn't affected it in any way. I do know of many
people who have experienced troubles with their iPods, but the ones
they have are older versions.
However, I have no experience with Creative players, so I won't claim
that the iPods are superior to them. I have heard many good things
about them, and I have been tempted to try them. The reason I haven't
(aside from the fact that my iPod is still working perfectly) is
their looks. Lookswise I don't really like the Creative players at all,
some of them look okay but some look awful in my opinion. It might seem
superficial to you, but I wouldn't want to buy one even if they are ten
times as reliable as an iPod, even if one gets much more player for the
price. But I'm confident that I won't have to replace my iPod quite yet
anyway, and by the time I have to, Creative players might look better.
Edited by Philéas - March 01 2007 at 18:52
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Tony R
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 18:54 |
Yes, I guess an Ipod beats my Creative for looks:
but then again you pay extra for those gorgeous designs, and it is a music player that you keep in a pocket, after all...
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rileydog22
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Posted: March 01 2007 at 20:21 |
 MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ then maybe you should try to be more decisive!
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If I want to be more decisive, I, not my portable music player, will be the one to decide that.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 02:07 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
My Zen completely broke and was in other scenes very inconvient. I find the iPod to be much better quality and sound, with a better design as well |
Indeed, the Ipod is said to be the best MP3 player in term of sound quality.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 02:19 |
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I think when it comes to sound quality all the modern mp3 players are quite similar ... the headphones affect the quality much more.
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Man Erg
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 09:13 |
Creative Zen - Sleek Photo 20g - approx 5,000 songs (WMA), approx 2.500 songs (MP3)
Sound quality; V.Good; Well, that depends on the original file quality but I use a pair of Creative's in ear earphones, (£25 approx') in black so as not to hopefully arouse a mugger's interest. 
The only fault that I have had in the year that I have owned it is that it sometimes 'freezes'.
Nothing that a pin pushed up the little hole won't fix!
The Creative software upgrades are very good too.
The only other downside is that a lot of mp3 players still don't play Flac files. But, then again, if you want it in Flac so badly, save up and buy the cd....and let 'em eat cake.
Edited by Man Erg - March 21 2007 at 14:43
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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chopper
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 10:17 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I think when it comes to sound quality all the modern mp3 players are quite similar ... the headphones affect the quality much more.
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That's what I thought. Surely, since the music is digital, all players should play the files pretty much the same, but the quality of the sound heard is dependent on the quality of the headphones/speakers used.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 10:34 |
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I have a 512 Mb MP3 player, and its fine for me.
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Philéas
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 14:38 |
Man Erg wrote:
The only other downside is that a lot of mp3
players still don't play Flac files. But, then again, if you want it in
Flac so badly, save up and buy the cd....and let 'em eat cake. |
iPod users can convert their FLAC files to Apple Lossless files (ALAC I
think it's called). I convert to 256 kbps mp3 though for use with my
iPod, if I was to have everything in lossless I wouldn't be able to
carry more than two or three albums around in my pocket. Of course I
still keep my FLAC files on the computer.
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rileydog22
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 20:50 |
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FLAC is WAYYYYY too bulky for me. I use it primarily to trade bootlegs electronically (most traders will not accept lossy sources), then convert to 128 kb/s mp3's for listening. I find that a 128 sounds the same to me as a lossless source, so I don't bother taking up any more space than that.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 02:11 |
^ so your portable player can play FLAC files? Nice! But if you can't hear a difference to 128kbps you probably need much better headphones.
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rileydog22
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 15:55 |
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No, I use an iPod, so I am forced to convert. I would do it anyway, though. My headphones are quite nice, Etymotic Research 6i Isolaters. Top-of-the-line in-ear headphones. And I STILL don't hear lossyness. I guess that's good for me, though; more music in less space!
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Kid-A
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 16:45 |
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I prefer the Sony.. had a zen like TOny's for two years but the headphone connection failed :(
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Paradox
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 19:04 |
To be quite honest I don't like listening to music with headphones. They make my ears hurt and/or give me a headache. I plan to only use MP3 players for use in my car (when I've invested in a new iPod, stereo and speakers for my automobile). All very expensive but I spend a lot of time in my car so it's worth it I feel.
I just hope nothing like this happens... 
 in advance
Edited by Paradox - March 04 2007 at 19:07
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Arrrghus
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Posted: March 04 2007 at 19:08 |
Tony R wrote:
Yes, I guess an Ipod beats my Creative for looks:
but then again you pay extra for those gorgeous designs, and it is a music player that you keep in a pocket, after all...
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Lucky, my old Creative looked like a brick, and it weighed about as much as one, too.
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Failcore
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Posted: March 20 2007 at 20:19 |
bhikkhu wrote:
It's funny, but you would think 20GB would be more than enough. I still have a hard time when reloading music. I go to delete things, and I hesitate. I use my ipod all of the time, and I like having a lot of options. I can't predict what I will be in the mood to listen to when I get out of work, or when I am traveling. |
Believe it or not, I cant even fill up a 4 gig nano. I had a 30 gb video ipod but never even came close to using all the space so when some men of low moral fiber made off with it and my car stereo, I just replaced it with a nano. Maybe I'm just too picky about what I listen to. 
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rileydog22
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Posted: March 20 2007 at 20:24 |
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Haha, I just checked and I have over 47 gigs, and that's just my mp3's. I also have gigs upon gigs of archived FLAC bootlegs. It's best to keep lossless, just in case.
Just in case of what, though, is beyond me.
Edited by rileydog22 - March 20 2007 at 20:24
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Unix
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Posted: March 20 2007 at 20:29 |
I have an 80 GB Ipod. I love it because I've got many many albums in ALAC format on it, and the sound quality on them is amazing. right now I have about 2800 songs equalling around 20-21 GB (because of the file size that comes with the lossless albums) and It's just great. I also have about 7 GB of video files. I dunno if I'll ever completely fill it up, but I'm gonna try my best to
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