Tool

Yeah, that's how I'd put it too. But then again, does not sounding like any of the ancestors automatically exclude a band from the subgenre? For example, are In The Woods... not prog-metal for not mixing psychedelic and ambient with doomy riffs and tremolo picked ones? I mean, that was not quite the same thing Queensryche and Watchtower (or Atheist, or Dream Theater) did.

TheProgtologist wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^   And Tool doesn't sound like those bands,THEY sound like Tool.

I actually jokingly refer to Deadsoul Tribe as "Jethro Tool"

random side note: anyone have any idea when DST's new album is coming out this year?

Their are 2 Tools. There is early Tool which is definatly metal. From Lateralis on they become more prog. rock.

This whole "tool isn't prog" thing has been done to death..

You either like Tool, or you don't.   Just because you can't feel the prog in their music,  doesn't mean that it isn't there. 

Tool is progressive. 

Can't we just let it be? 


Edited by giantenemycrab - March 18 2007 at 01:23

StyLaZyn wrote: Some bands try to sound like Tool. What a compliment to the band.

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Daydreamyng wrote: And I don't like Budweiser either.

NOW you're really in a trouble!!!

Feel free to express your point. A friend of mine hates TOOL too...but we still friends

First people say Tool aren't prog metal and now they say they aren't metal at all?

What's next?

^^^^  I wasn't personally talking about you, Daydreamyng, and I respect your opinion about them. But for some, we have to separate the facts from opinions.

Personally I see them as prog. Sure they don't sound like Dream Theater or Fates Warning like one member already mentioned, but that doesn't mean they aren't prog or prog metal. They may not be as flashy or as technical as DT, but they are still prog. They're just a tad different than the ones people normally consider prog metal. That's all.

And as for people saying they aren't metal. How can the song Vicarious not be considered metal? I only have their Aenima and 10,000 Days album and both albums sound pretty metal to me. 10,000 Days was a bit of a surprise for me since I heard alot of sludge metal influences in their sound, but its still metal only a bit slower and more "atmospheric".

And yes, Akin, Prog Metal HAS NO boundaries.



Edited by chamberry - March 19 2007 at 20:34

Daydreamyng wrote: Maybe I should clarify. I didn't say that they weren't metal. I just don't think they're a good metal band. I don't think they're progressive. My girlfriend listens to them. I just don't like them. There's stuff I like that most here wouldn't like. It's in the individual's taste I suppose.My opinion was to state that I don't think they should be considered prog metal. I mean I think Testament, Exodus, Slayer, Megadeth, Death, Savatage, Dream Theater, etc. are prog metal but with the exception of DT those bands never get mentioned here.In that regards I think Trivium should be a prog band. They are a lot better than Tool in my humble opinion.I guess what I'm saying is that I just don't get it. But 99.99 percent of the people here do. I'm just expressing my own personal point of view.

Slayer more prog metal than Tool? No way. The reason why people think that tool ISNT prog metal and they are ART ROCK instead may be because they push the boundaries of prog metal.

Some people still claim that Pink Floyd "isn't prog rock."