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Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

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We agree in lots of things, as I've said before all bands on your list are great!Big%20smile


I agree! Only, I haven't heard any Idiot Flesh and Sonic Youth yet. Will do pretty soon. Smile


Idiot Flesh is a funkier SGM with half the members of the band ans Sonic youth its well pop / punk / avangardish?, think in neu! with the clash or something.... ITS NOT PROG, but its cool, well i like it


LOL One page ago you wrote: "Sonic Youth (why they aint here?, come on listen to Murray Street and tell me that isnt prog)". You change your mind quite quickly! Tongue

I have music from both bands (Idiot Flesh and Sonic Youth) on my pc; I just haven't yet found the time/urge to listen to them. Smile


what i mean is that isn prog in the way that "seventies snobs with yes t shirts" understand as prog, its prog like it raise the musical standar of punk, like Swans (but change punk for industrial)
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Welcome.

Hectic at the moment, I'll just repaste a message I wrote before in a Prog Metal poll since it fits: [I really like] "Kayo Dot's Choirs of the Eye.  You might enjoy Estradasphere (listed under this site as Avant Prog) -- good chamber rock! http://www.estradasphere.com/

For what it's worth, a favourite Prog metal album I know listed under that category here is Indukti - S.U.S.A.R.  [Check out the sample: CLICK HERE]

Lots of borederline metal and metal-influenced music (Sleepytime Gorilla Museum for instance or Taal) I like even if I'm not really a fan of metal (experimental/ Avant Prog metallic stuff I like).  I enjoy Prog for the eclectic range of influences and metal is a major influence in lots of Prog these days."

No, I don't care for the Metallica stuff, nor do I like the neo-progish sounding metal.
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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2007 at 18:05
Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

We agree in lots of things, as I've said before all bands on your list are great!Big%20smile


I agree! Only, I haven't heard any Idiot Flesh and Sonic Youth yet. Will do pretty soon. Smile


Idiot Flesh is a funkier SGM with half the members of the band ans Sonic youth its well pop / punk / avangardish?, think in neu! with the clash or something.... ITS NOT PROG, but its cool, well i like it


LOL One page ago you wrote: "Sonic Youth (why they aint here?, come on listen to Murray Street and tell me that isnt prog)". You change your mind quite quickly! Tongue

I have music from both bands (Idiot Flesh and Sonic Youth) on my pc; I just haven't yet found the time/urge to listen to them. Smile


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Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

We agree in lots of things, as I've said before all bands on your list are great!Big%20smile


I agree! Only, I haven't heard any Idiot Flesh and Sonic Youth yet. Will do pretty soon. Smile


Idiot Flesh is a funkier SGM with half the members of the band ans Sonic youth its well pop / punk / avangardish?, think in neu! with the clash or something.... ITS NOT PROG, but its cool, well i like it


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I haven't heard Sonic Youth yet myself. Idiot Flesh pwnThumbs%20Up
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

We agree in lots of things, as I've said before all bands on your list are great!Big%20smile


I agree! Only, I haven't heard any Idiot Flesh and Sonic Youth yet. Will do pretty soon. Smile
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We agree in lots of things, as I've said before all bands on your list are great!Big%20smile
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dont buy milenium monsterwork, the sound quality kills the emotion Smile, in the website that i put before u can find some bootlegs that are better that the milenium
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Fantomas are as prog and as challenging as you can get! I like all of their albums, Millenium Monsterwork is the only one I haven't heard yet.

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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

I don't even know Placebo... standard intie is kinda boring, I prefer the more challenging stuff.


its contradictoy, but do u like Fantomas?, mike patton its like GOD (but he is realWink), i love  suspended animation, the debut , and delirum cordia, i dont understand the cover i dont like milenium monster work
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Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Kayo Dot is Avant-metal actually, perfectly prog. I believe that that's the genre you should check out, since it's as different form Iron Maiden and Dream Theater as any of the bands on your list


Can u smell my fear?
i think u was going to crucified me!


Oh yes, I smell itWink

The guys in my signature are Cryptopsy, brutal death metal btwEvil%20Smile


Its funny cause i dont see  placebo as indie, for me indie is (of course from independent labels) music with experimetation but not to much, like Butthole surfers, or Neutal milk Hotel or Sonic Youth,
things like placebo is the crap that mtv try to sell u as interesting or noveau


Well, I wasn't too sure about Placebo being called "indie rock" anyway Embarrassed, but that was not my main point. Tongue

By reading your posts I notice that you have a very negative attitude towards a lot of music. I was the same once, but after a lot of trying I finally managed to be able to enjoy many different kinds of music (jazz, classical, hip-hop, metal, etc.) and it really was a liberating experience for me. But I admit that it took me quite an effort to get there. (Re Placebo in particular: while I do quite enjoy some of the music they make, I was bored out of my mind during their concert at the Lowlands festival last summer. Too bad, because I had been looking forward to it. Cry)


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I don't even know Placebo... standard intie is kinda boring, I prefer the more challenging stuff.
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Kayo Dot is Avant-metal actually, perfectly prog. I believe that that's the genre you should check out, since it's as different form Iron Maiden and Dream Theater as any of the bands on your list


Can u smell my fear?
i think u was going to crucified me!


Oh yes, I smell itWink

The guys in my signature are Cryptopsy, brutal death metal btwEvil%20Smile


Its funny cause i dont see  placebo as indie, for me indie is (of course from independent labels) music with experimetation but not to much, like Butthole surfers, or Neutal milk Hotel or Sonic Youth,
things like placebo is the crap that mtv try to sell u as interesting or noveau
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Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Kayo Dot is Avant-metal actually, perfectly prog. I believe that that's the genre you should check out, since it's as different form Iron Maiden and Dream Theater as any of the bands on your list


Can u smell my fear?
i think u was going to crucified me!


Oh yes, I smell itWink

The guys in my signature are Cryptopsy, brutal death metal btwEvil%20Smile
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Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Why don;t you try digging deeper into prog metal: Kayo Dot and Agalloch for a start.
And look further into black metal: ever heard of Drudkh or Burzum?

Here, listen to the ProgArchives sample of Agalloch, http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1933

And one from kayo Dot: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1870

Be honest now


Hey, Kayo dot sound like zoot allures era ZappaBig%20smile i have heard of the band before but people said to me that it was indie (people are strange right jim morrinson)


It is indie, in the original meaning of the word. That is, a band operating through independent labels. Wink


LOL silly of me!


See my edited, more detailed post for more info about the use of the word "indie". Smile
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Kayo Dot is Avant-metal actually, perfectly prog. I believe that that's the genre you should check out, since it's as different form Iron Maiden and Dream Theater as any of the bands on your list


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Kayo Dot is Avant-metal actually, perfectly prog. I believe that that's the genre you should check out, since it's as different form Iron Maiden and Dream Theater as any of the bands on your list
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Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Why don;t you try digging deeper into prog metal: Kayo Dot and Agalloch for a start.
And look further into black metal: ever heard of Drudkh or Burzum?

Here, listen to the ProgArchives sample of Agalloch, http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1933

And one from kayo Dot: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1870

Be honest now


Hey, Kayo dot sound like zoot allures era ZappaBig%20smile i have heard of the band before but people said to me that it was indie (people are strange right jim morrinson)


It is indie, in the original meaning of the word. That is, a band operating through independent labels. Wink


LOL silly of me!
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I still don't agree that kayo dot are anything to do with metal. That's probably why we like them so much, your taste seems pretty cool :D
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Originally posted by Lestat89 Lestat89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Why don;t you try digging deeper into prog metal: Kayo Dot and Agalloch for a start.
And look further into black metal: ever heard of Drudkh or Burzum?

Here, listen to the ProgArchives sample of Agalloch, http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1933

And one from kayo Dot: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1870

Be honest now


Hey, Kayo dot sound like zoot allures era ZappaBig%20smile i have heard of the band before but people said to me that it was indie (people are strange right jim morrinson)


Kayo Dot is indie, in the original meaning of the word. That is, a band operating through independent labels. Wink But nowadays "indie rock" is also known as a particular style of music, associated with Radiohead, Placebo and many others (because those bands started out on independent or "indie" labels). That kind of indie, it is certainly not.


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