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Xalita
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Topic: Tool Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:31 |
Can this wonderfull band we all love really be considered progressive metal in the real sense of the word?
Edited by Xalita - March 14 2007 at 16:32
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Trickster F.
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:33 |
And what is "progressive metal in the real sense of the word"? Be honest.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:35 |
Yes
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el böthy
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:37 |
Not to be rude, but you seem to be new here. Check out Tool in the search option and you will find that this has been discussed to death...
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Drakk
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:39 |
He didn't offer an explanation.
I want to know why.
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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!
Al di Meola.
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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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johnobvious
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:47 |
"Band we all love" ? Speak for yourself.
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darksideof
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:54 |
I think when they first started they were probably more metal Than Prog. Now I think they are more prog-rock band than a prog-metal band.
I love all their Albums.
for me Tool sounds so much like these bands, that I Also love: They are like a melting pot of these bands:
Pink Floyd
king crimson
Black Sabbath
Rush
Led Zeppelin
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polyrythmic
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 17:12 |
Art Rock
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magnus
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 17:23 |
There's not really that much metal in Tool... Some, but I think progressive rock is an equally good tag for Tool, if not better.
Whether or not they're progressive? You bet they are.
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Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie
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Malve87
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 17:27 |
Yes they're Prog Metal...They've been so influenced by King Crimson, for instance....
Their impact is VERY metal...
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TheProgMonster
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 22:25 |
This page defines them as "prog-metal", which I think hurts thier ratings here. Tool is nothing like typical prog-metal bands like Dream theater, Fates Warning, and the such, but I think the art-rock genre would be more fitting for Tool's sound and creativity.
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lighthouse
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 22:29 |
I am not going to argue about this just state my own opinion I don`t think they are typically progressive to the true sense of the word , what tool are prog visionaries, Tool seem to provide a blue print for other more typical prog artists to follow ... so yes they are very important to the modern prog movement for this reason.
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el böthy
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 22:41 |
polyrythmic wrote:
Art Rock |
I also agree that thats where they belong
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Trademark
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 22:45 |
"Band we all love" ? Speak for yourself."
Amen to that
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darkmatter
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 22:51 |
I still here metal when I listen to them, so I think they should still be prog metal.
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Chewy
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 23:36 |
I consider tool a rock band........ with their own unique sound......
Adam's riffing is very metallic....but they are far beyond the boundaries of metal or prog-metal...
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Phil
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Posted: March 15 2007 at 06:37 |
I hear "metal" when I listen to them. And they are definitely "progressive". So it seems a suitable label.
Whereas others like Dream Theater, for me, are not really metal at all.....
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CrazyDiamond
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Posted: March 15 2007 at 07:12 |
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: March 15 2007 at 09:10 |
Tired of defending them.
Either you like them or you don't,makes no difference to me personally.
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akin
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Posted: March 15 2007 at 09:27 |
Tool Art Rock? One of the biggest complains of people who complains of
Tool is that they are more a pure Metal (nu-metal) band than prog Metal.
Everything that Tool has ever done cannot be dissociated from metal.
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