Bruford or Peart?

Tony R wrote: Chus wrote: Well, I'm learning a lot from Ivan then you forgot something...

Peter,dear Peter
Please give up your rhyme.
You have no grasp of meter
and your rhyming's a crime...

Neil Peart is the man

YYZed wrote: As far as influence is concerned, mid 70's king crimson has affected just as many musicians as all of Rush's career. Every rock musician I know has given both about an equal listen. But then with bruford there's also Yes, his late 70's fusion stuff, Earthwork's, 80's and 90's KC. He's everywhere and is at least a subconscious influence on every drummer that listens to him. Like influence, we don't have some sort of way to measure it. I've seen more amazing stuff from Bruford than Peart like playing in different time signatures w/ different limbs, etc. Pardon my laziness.

Honestly, I could care less about influence, if Robert Plant is more influential than Geddy lee, it doesn't make him a better singer. I'm just voting for the one I think is better. Playing in odd time signatures doe snot make you a better drummer than another.

I just think I pay attention to the drums more in Rush because they are more interesting. If you play just the drum part of CTTE I would probably not recognize it as easily as if you played the drum part to Hemispheres or 2112.

Both are fantastic drummers, bit in a hard rock setting like KC or Rush, more aggressive drums are needed, which I think Bruford isn't as good at. He was fantastic on CTTE for example, because it fit the music, but he played a similar style of drumming in KC, which is a lot heavier than YES.

Bruford (KC) > Peart > Bruford (Yes)

BRUFORD with YES but his work with KC is less impressive!

Drumming is all about improvisation.  With some exceptions, if you play a drum "part," then you're probably a square.  

And by the way, that video wasn't incredibly impressive.

Sasquamo wrote: Drumming is all about improvisation.

I thought drumming was all about music.

progismylife wrote: Visitor13 wrote: Sasquamo wrote: Drumming is all about improvisation.  I thought drumming was all about music.     Isn't drumming about keeping a steady beat with some improvisation and a great groove?

Which would make it music. And since there are drummers such as Rashied Ali and Sunny Murray, who usually don't keep a steady beat (or at least I can't hear one in their work), then I guess it's still best to say that drumming is all about music.


Edited by Visitor13 - December 10 2006 at 15:37

Tony R wrote: progismylife wrote: Visitor13 wrote: Sasquamo wrote: Drumming is all about improvisation.  I thought drumming was all about music.     Isn't drumming about keeping a steady beat with some improvisation and a great groove? you only need a groove if you want to dance to it....

    What I meant by the groove remark is.... ah crap I don't know. Maybe I meant hitting something besides the hi-hat and snare to keep the beat. Or maybe not playing a simple beat but something somewhat complex.