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Jeremy Bender
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 06:42 |
Pink Floyd - after the final cut
Yes - after tales from topographic oceans
King Crimson - never
ELP - after brain salad surgery
Dream Theater - after six degrees of inner turbulence
Genesis - they never had 'it'
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Angplags
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 06:48 |
Jeremy Bender wrote:
Pink Floyd - after the final cut
Yes - after tales from topographic oceans
King Crimson - never
ELP - after brain salad surgery
Dream Theater - after six degrees of inner turbulence
Genesis - they never had 'it'
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Dude, how can you resist the charms of "Love Beach"?
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Eat_Paris
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 07:42 |
DT mentioned here? r u sure? or maybe u just cant stand any palm muting and heavy distortion ?
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"love prog .. simply because its beautiful" .. and lindsay lohan =P~
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Intruder
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 09:20 |
A question of taste....Yes after the Yes Album sounds about right. Even though I dig most of what they did right up thru Drama, a warmness (for lack of a better word) was lost with the loss of Banks' jazzy fills and Kaye's earthy keys (I think Bruford peaked with the band on the first three albums). What followed was often spectacular, they became a much more mature, accomplished group after TYA but the skin they shed was one smokin' outfit....really love those Banks Wes Montgomery imitations/freak outs on some of the late 60s bootlegs.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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AcostaFulano
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 11:38 |
CLUTCHING AT STRAWS is a wonderful album and so is misplaced childhood..... I don't think they lost it at all!
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Agadepáuer
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 12:24 |
Dream Theater after A Change of Seasons.
Iron Maiden after Fear of the Dark.
Metallica after the Black Album.
Pantera after Cowboys from Hell.
Fates Warning after Perfect Symmetry.
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jiSh
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 12:58 |
I agree with Fates Warning after Perfect Symmetry.
Dream Theater went kinda flaky on Octavarium, there's only three songs I like from it (Root of All Evil/Sacrificed Sons/title track), they started to sound too much like other bands with their other songs. However, the "Score" concert totally rocked.
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The T
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 14:22 |
A few bands lose it... maybe not "lose it" as in losing quality or something (No, I honestly think they DO), but better yet "loose it" as in letting the prog-stream flowing through their veins loose and lost in a pool of waste....
But The Flower Kings will never lose it!!!!!
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richardh
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 14:31 |
^ you have to have had it the first place to have lost it
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giantenemycrab
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 14:34 |
Don't know if Rush has been mentioned, but I think they are one of the
few that had it, then really really completely lost it. After Grace
Under Pressure, they, well, sucked.
As for DT, they had it, always did, and always will. Never have they lost it.
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Philéas
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 14:57 |
DT lost it after Awake, Focus after Hamburger Concerto (haven't heard
the two new albums though, they might be good), Queensrÿche after
OM.
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limeyrob
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 14:59 |
After reading some of the comments I quite like Tangerine Dream up to the Tournado tour - must be about 1997. Excellent sound - but to me they just didn't know how to finish a track. Probably why I liked the live album with the links between each piece producing a continuous sound.
Still can't get into Rush though - I have tried
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:17 |
richardh wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
I would say Tangerine Dream after Poland, if they actually got mentioned here. |
I partially agree as Poland (1984) is one of the best live albums I've ever come across.However I really like Underwater Sunlight (1986) and even Tyger (1987) has some good moments.I believe TD started to go noticeably downhill after 1987. |
a rightous argument, considering the departure of Franke up in that year. but I don't entrust Underwater Sunlight and, let's be reasonable, Tyger moderately, with quality and with the clear perspective with which the band walked under the dynamic Trio. shall we say Le Parc as a compromise between our opinions?
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:19 |
limeyrob wrote:
After reading some of the comments I quite like Tangerine Dream up to the Tournado tour - must be about 1997. Excellent sound - but to me they just didn't know how to finish a track. Probably why I liked the live album with the links between each piece producing a continuous sound.
Still can't get into Rush though - I have tried |
The Tournado tour was 1996 and concluded with Tournado, afterwards Valentyne Wheels. I may be the TD die-hard fan, but I also believe there's been serious undulations during the 1986-1996 period. From cheap to inefficient. From marginally adequate to occasionally tastefull (and when oh-oh! delice ). But I can draw a point from Tournado, saying that after those albums, up in the Millenium, Tangerine Dream "got it back". oh, and I believe the point about Rush is bit misunderstood, in relation with the topic subject.
Edited by Ricochet - November 26 2006 at 16:20
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:20 |
You kidding me???
Phaedra 2005 =
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:22 |
stonebeard wrote:
You kidding me???
Phaedra 2005 = |
why Mr. Stonie! It sure is not!
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Arrrghus
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:27 |
Philéas wrote:
DT lost it after Awake, Focus after Hamburger Concerto (haven't heard
the two new albums though, they might be good), Queensrÿche after
OM.
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I thought Awake was not spectacular (it was good, though) and their best albums were released after Awake (mostly Scenes and Octavarium).
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Arrrghus
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:29 |
eugene wrote:
Yes, but some of them returmn to form, as KC did with Thrak. |
KC never lost it. Discipline is amazing. So is the Power to Believe, and so is Thrak.
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1800iareyay
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:40 |
jiSh wrote:
Dream Theater went kinda flaky on Octavarium, there's only three songs I like from it (Root of All Evil/Sacrificed Sons/title track), they started to sound too much like other bands with their other songs. However, the "Score" concert totally rocked.
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I think we're related
I can't believe only one person mentioned ELP's Love Beach. That is the defintion of "losing it"
Here's some more bands, some not prog
Yes- Going For the One
Rush- Presto, though I think they rebounded wit Test For Echo and Vapor Trails, despite the later's atrocious production
Deep Purple- Burn, came back for Perfect Strangers, lost it immediately afterwards, came back with Purpendicular
Ozzy Osbourne- Bark At the Moon, came back briefly for No More Tears
Genesis- began with And Then There Were Three...
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Arrrghus
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Posted: November 26 2006 at 16:42 |
1800iareyay wrote:
jiSh wrote:
Dream Theater went kinda flaky on Octavarium, there's only three songs I like from it (Root of All Evil/Sacrificed Sons/title track), they started to sound too much like other bands with their other songs. However, the "Score" concert totally rocked. | I think we're related[IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
I can't believe only one person mentioned ELP's Love Beach. That is the defintion of "losing it"
Here's some more bands, some not prog
Yes- Going For the One
Rush- Presto, though I think they rebounded wit Test For Echo and Vapor Trails, despite the later's atrocious production
Deep Purple- Burn, came back for Perfect Strangers, lost it immediately afterwards, came back with Purpendicular
Ozzy Osbourne- Bark At the Moon, came back briefly for No More Tears
Genesis- began with And Then There Were Three... |
Going for the one? That's easily one of their best albums!!!! Shame on you! Shame, shame shame!!!
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