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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:08
If you go back to the origin of the thread, the actual complaint was about between song stage banter, not lyrics (the thread has been slightly co-opted). In particular Mike Portnoy on the TA live in Europe release. In that particular case his language makes Portnoy appear (and maybe rightly so) totally moronic and incapable of coherent speech. I don't think this is the case, I think he does it to appear "cool" to young, stupid metal-heads who truly believe that they are defying the authority of the whole world by using one stupid word, when in fact it simply makes them look like the spoiled children they are.
    
    
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:10
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 02:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 07:57
Old fart, you can't be much of one if the baby's on the way. I've been a dad for 26 years & counting. Might have something to do with it all though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 08:20
Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

If you go back to the origin of the thread, the actual complaint was about between song stage banter, not lyrics (the thread has been slightly co-opted). In particular Mike Portnoy on the TA live in Europe release. In that particular case his language makes Portnoy appear (and maybe rightly so) totally moronic and incapable of coherent speech. I don't think this is the case, I think he does it to appear "cool" to young, stupid metal-heads who truly believe that they are defying the authority of the whole world by using one stupid word, when in fact it simply makes them look like the spoiled children they are.
    
    
    

And yet, its Transatlantic, so the chances of there being any "stupid metal-heads" in the audiance is small one would think.

Maybe he just doesnt care since the first post made it seem that he was talking to the other band members and not the audiance (I havnt seen the DVD),  or maybe he was just really enjoying himself up on stage.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 10:01
I have the audio of the concert and it seems like he was talking to the audience, introducing the tunes and acting as master of ceremonies, as it were. It seems so totally out of place. he did the same thing ono the live in America release as well. Took my estimation of him down quite a number of pegs in general. I can't get why Neal & Randy want him around (other than the drumming of couse, hard to fault him there).
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 10:11
^Randy? Transatlantic was a Mike Portnoy side project, even if Neal Morse and Roine Stolt took over the creative reigns.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 10:18
Randy George of Ajalon (another Christian Prog band) who now also plays with Neal's solo band along with Mike P. Sorry for the confusion. Jumped ahead in time a few years without warning.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 10:54
It`s just a word as pointed out by a few of you guys. People from all walks of life use it. My doctor uses it. My wife who has a Phd. uses it. Pilots use it. Police officers use it. Bob Fripp uses it.John McLaughlinn has used it many times even in nterviews. You hear it every day walking down the street. You see it in the newspaper. don`t see what`s the problem with this "F" word. Get over it. Elvis is dead and the "F" word has become more acceptable and is here to stay. IT`S ONLY A F*%"$!# WORD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 10:59
If it's only just a word why does the site here automatically censor it? And why did you censor yourself rather than just say (type) it? It is clearly more than just a word and you, yourself recognize that fact. Words are one of the mosat powerful things on earth and we should be careful how we use and abuse them.
    
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 11:22
I didn`t use it because it would have been censored. If the site chooses to censor  expletives, such as the "F" word then I respect their wishes and refrain from utilizing it here. Believe me in real life, if someone doesn`t like my choice of words the that`s their effing problem not mine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 13:34
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Originally posted by ResidentAlien ResidentAlien wrote:

Originally posted by eugene eugene wrote:

Yesterday I discovered in one catalogue of CDs for sale that there is a band called Anal c**t, talking about foul language here... 


And?  They're a grindcore band.  They make loud vulgar music... such is their style; it's the message they wish to convey.  What's wrong with that?
 
It's not the name that is the problem. Wink


AxCx's lyrics are absolutely hilarious, and their music isn't all that bad, as far as plain grindcore goes, they're pretty good!LOL

Unlike all those "white power" grindcore bands, like Vaginal Jesus...Dead


Uh, listen to Pig Destroyer or Napalm Death if you want good grindcore... Anal c**t's music is pretty much a complete joke, I think they put more effort into their (admittedly pretty funny) song titles than their music.

And Vaginal Jesus aren't actually white power, they're every bit as satirical as AC (they actually were on a white power record label but got kicked off for not really holding those beliefs).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2006 at 14:06
I really don't like the F U part in "The Water" by Spock's Beard, but usually I don't mind cussing in songs.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2006 at 11:10
Considering swearing - English "bad" language is much more ear-friendly IMHO that the Russian one! All these "h**", "p**dets","e**nutiy" etc are much more rude than a tiny little "f**k". Personally being a Russian speaker I prefer to drop a dozen of f**ks instead of a one Russian swearing...the same level of releasing your negative emotions, but less harmful for your ears
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2006 at 12:57
Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

If it's only just a word why does the site here automatically censor it? And why did you censor yourself rather than just say (type) it? It is clearly more than just a word and you, yourself recognize that fact. Words are one of the mosat powerful things on earth and we should be careful how we use and abuse them.
    
    


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2006 at 17:02
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Considering swearing - English "bad" language is much more ear-friendly IMHO that the Russian one! All these "h**", "p**dets","e**nutiy" etc are much more rude than a tiny little "f**k". Personally being a Russian speaker I prefer to drop a dozen of f**ks instead of a one Russian swearing...the same level of releasing your negative emotions, but less harmful for your ears
 
LOL I know exactly what you mean....actually I am one of the very few who know exactly what you mean here...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2006 at 08:19
I agree that the censoring is a bit silly at times - I'm really glad I don't live in the English town of Sc**thorpe (I didn't add the asterisks - you try it!), or, indeed, the Austrian town of f**king...
    
    
/edit - that's odd... the forum software decapitalised that genuine town name for me as well as adding the asterisks...
    

Edited by Certif1ed - November 30 2006 at 08:21
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