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Trickster F. ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
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Agreed with the last part of the first sentence, not for those reasons though.
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Pnoom! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
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Bryan ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013 |
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Oh come on, Tony can get away with namedropping Ted Nugent yet CoB are entirely out of the question? What's this world coming to? ![]() |
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SignalToNoise ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: October 01 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 48 |
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Swearing killing songs? lol, definitely not! Listen to Zappa!
![]() Anyway, I don't own this transatlantic CD but I can not imagine that any word can affect the atmosphere on any record..! |
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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It really depends who says it for me. Cause if...Jon Anderson comes out saying "lets all f**k tonight", well that would be just plain stupid. But when Maynard shouts "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you buddy" in Hooker with a pennis, its just orgasmic...oh sorry, f**king orgasmic
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Online Points: 20033 |
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"Hey Jude" contains a profanity from John Lennon towards the end, before the "na na na" bit. He fluffs a backing vocal and shouts "f***ing hell!". You probably wouldn't notice it unless you knew it was there.
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Chicapah ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8238 |
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My thinking is that if you are going to swear, then go ahead and do
it. On "Artificial Smile" by Riverside the singer, Duda, sings
"I'm only happy when they F you" (or something like that) and it just
sounds ridiculous to me. Maybe they were trying to avoid getting
the parental warning sticker on the cd case.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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sm sm ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 155 |
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When used in a justified way, swearing is acceptable. To use it now would not be acceptable
What I find ignorant is the use of fancy words in order to show one's superority of intelligence - see many letters to the editor.
To use it to describe such a person being a pompous a**hole would be acceptable.
What I find offensive is inappropriate gross talk. I never understood why the need to include the lyric "snot is running down his nose" in Tull's Aqualung.
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Firepuck ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 28 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 657 |
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While I'm not a fan of swearing I find the imagery of Anderson's lyrics excellent, the above included.
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Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks."
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The Hemulen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
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Aqualung is a musical and poetic portrait of a vile, decript old man. In what way is that lyric inappropriate in such a context? ![]() |
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ResidentAlien ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 17 2006 Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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Yes, "nuff said," because Phil Collins is the end-all-be-all authority on what is right and what is wrong. Which is precisely why we have such monumental masterpieces as Invisible Touch. http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc Watch^. Be enlightened. Edited by ResidentAlien - November 20 2006 at 14:55 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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I love that part! ![]() |
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The Hemulen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
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It's a corker, innit? |
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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![]() I agree. I couldn't care less... f**k is one of the most beautiful words in the English language if you ask me... |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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Ansen, you're Russian, your opinion doesn't count.
![]() TP: yes, I love that album. I'm still coming to grips with it. Is that a tango being played on the last track? I'm useless at working out things like that. |
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tdbark ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 81 |
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The most surprising instance of the F word was during Pigs (Three Different Ones). "You f**ked up old hag." I remember listening to that on the radio (along with the Who's Who Are You ["Who the f**k are you?"]) and thinking, my god, did he just sing that? Later when I bought the album, I discovered that he did. There were some great mavericks back in '70's album-oriented rock stations. In both those instances I believe that contextually the word fits. But in-between songs (with the exception of the afore-mentioned Ted Nugent... the Motor City Madman has way with words... lol ... and you knew that that was part of his act) in a performance that was not necessarily promoted as "Rated M for mature" I would like the performers to show a little restraint, given there might be some young teens in the audience.
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Twenty men crossing a bridge into a village,
are twenty men crossing twenty bridges into twenty villages. Wallace Stevens |
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piltdown man ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 107 |
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I never had any problems with Fish cursing - his monologues during the concerts were very enjoyable most of the times.
Hearing the whole audience join Fish in that Garden Party-line was interesting - it seemed like people who didn´t know any songs or lyrics at least knew that line!
Whats with the word Fugazi? Is that the F -word as used by American soldiers in Vietnam - I think´I´ve read that in some Fish interview or am I totally misinformed?
![]() My opinions in the question asked is that the use of swearing in songs can be totally right in the right context and if not only used for some cheap effect.
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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[QUOTE=piltdown man] ...Whats with the word Fugazi? Is that the F -word as used by American soldiers in Vietnam - I think´I´ve read that in some Fish interview or am I totally misinformed?[QUOTE]
You're informed correctly - it means the same as the last two letters of SNAFU ![]() I still remember the shock I got the first time I heard the Woodstock soundtrack, when Country Joe does the Fish cheer - but somehow, that's art. Skid Row's use of the word in "Get the f**k Out" is also inspired - but somehow, W.A.S.P's "Animal, I f**k Like a Beast" seems retarted because of the use of the word. I'd say it depends on the context - largely that between listener and artist ![]() |
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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The Wizard ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7341 |
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It's just a word. A word has no morality. It's silly to jugde something like a word.
Sometimes a well placed 'f**k' can be used to a wonderful effect. Take Ween for example.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21615 |
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Let me quote Devin Townsend, on Steve Vai's album Sex & Religion, right at the end of the song Sex & Religion:
"holy sh*t. holy jesus christ, I hurt your brain, hah, great god, steve, oh My fingers are numb, right now Yeah, theyre numb Can I deprive my brain of oxygen?" ![]() |
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