wall between USA and Mexico

Okay, this might make you think about your opinions:

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ClemofNazareth wrote: *snicker*

Well, pitures speak louder than you laugh.

I'm against illegal inmigration uin any country, here it happens but the difference is simple.

Sorry, but I see it to be a bigger insult to enter into a country without that country's consent and to diminish the legal population of that country's importance/resonance than it is to build a wall to keep the seemingly unstappable wave out. If there is another way other than a wall, I've love to hear it.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:   Because USA sold the rest of the world the idea of the American way of life being the best in the world and some idiots bought it.

hahhahahahah


we have a saying here in the American south....

Right On Brother!!!!


here's a couple of clappies for you Ivan




The time for such silliness is over now that the dems are back in power. Pandering the people who think the America is or should be the nation of the 1950's. The multicultural face of this country is here to stay.   This country depends on those illegals..  those who bitch about them.. would be the first to bitch when prices skyrocket here due to having to pay 'amercians' to do important jobs that are considered to be 'underneath' them.  Grow up people.  They have the privilage of working in 'safe' enviroment.. and we benefit in low prices.  Both sides win.

stonebeard wrote: Sorry, but I see it to be a bigger insult to enter into a country without that country's consent and to diminish the legal population of that country's importance/resonance than it is to build a wall to keep the seemingly unstappable wave out. If there is another way other than a wall, I've love to hear it.

Well, there is no easy answer, for sure. But just to get the 'creative juices' flowing:

The cost to the U.S. government for the war in Iraq the past three years has totalled more than $341,000,000,000.

The population of Mexico is about 107,000,000. 68,000,000 are of working age. 30% are unemployed or underemployed. The per capita income there is $6,770 (US dollars).

Less than half of the money spent fighting the war in Iraq would have been enough to provide living-wage funding to the entire working population of Mexico that is unemployed or underemployed over these past three years. I am not suggesting we just give away billions to Mexico, but it does cause one to think a bit about priorities.

People don't just pick up and leave their homes for the heck of it. My wife still loves her home country. I would prefer to still be living in my home state of Montana. But there is no work for us in either place, and we have kids to feed and bills to pay. So do Mexican families. Like others have said before, we have to address root causes, not symptoms.

ClemofNazareth wrote: stonebeard wrote: Sorry, but I see it to be a bigger insult to enter into a country without that country's consent and to diminish the legal population of that country's importance/resonance than it is to build a wall to keep the seemingly unstappable wave out. If there is another way other than a wall, I've love to hear it. Well, there is no easy answer, for sure. But just to get the 'creative juices' flowing: The cost to the U.S. government for the war in Iraq the past three years has totalled more than $341,000,000,000. The population of Mexico is about 107,000,000. 68,000,000 are of working age. 30% are unemployed or underemployed. The per capita income there is $6,770 (US dollars). Less than half of the money spent fighting the war in Iraq would have been enough to provide living-wage funding to the entire working population of Mexico that is unemployed or underemployed over these past three years. I am not suggesting we just give away billions to Mexico, but it does cause one to think a bit about priorities. People don't just pick up and leave their homes for the heck of it. My wife still loves her home country. I would prefer to still be living in my home state of Montana. But there is no work for us in either place, and we have kids to feed and bills to pay. So do Mexican families.  Like others have said before, we have to address root causes, not symptoms.

ahhhh...

we have another saying in the American south


Goddamn right


and that last statement is also the fundamental failure of this county's  so called 'war on terror' but that is off-topic here

markosherrera wrote: Make a wall in USA-Mexico frontier,is stupid.........,can you imagine Europa doing a wall in the mediterranean sea,for stop inmigrants of Africa.I believe there are leaders with very low I.Q..............SOME COMPANYS ARE COMPETITIVES,THANKS THE INMIGRANTS and they cant pay rent taxes because they win very low ,but they are a market too,they move the economy ,they eat,they buy dress, etc  ,  they pay indirect taxes....they are recovering spaces,.for example in New Orleans, and after all ,they are humans with feelings and hopes.

exactly....  I wouldn't say the leaders who wanted this have low IQ's.  It's just political pandering to right wing wackos.. without any practical consideration to the impact it would have here.  Thankfully the american public woke up and saw it before we were paying $5  for a head of lettuce  

The freedom that makes this country so .... great and appealing is the freedom here.  Short of becoming a police state (staying away from that for now ) there is really nothing to be done about illegal immigration but TRY to control it. My two cents......

I think it's funny that the people who will probably be building the wall are the very ones the wall is meant to keep out.