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Poll Question: What is the best movie ever?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:29
^ Yes, I'm too unexperiencded of Pasolini's other stuff, but I'm looking forward to watch them. I recall he was killed after Salo by a car which ran over him several times. Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2006 at 12:21
army of darness but where is 2001 space odyssey and eternal sunshine?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2006 at 12:49
Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Cannibal Holocaust !!

    

GO TO HELL!!!

A friend was watching that crap the other day. I only saw a couple of seconds of it, but I'm disgusted beyond reach... every copy of that should be buried... and if you like it so much, at the point of writting the name with exclamation marks in a thread about the best movie ever, you are sadly sick.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2006 at 14:40
Other, The Stand.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2006 at 16:53
Where the devil is Highlander? You've got some pretty cool cult films on here though.
 
I picked Night of the Living Dead myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2006 at 20:18
I choose Mullholand Drive from the list but there is maaaaanny other better films Smile
 
Like...
 
Clockwork Orange
Elephant Man
Barry Lyndon
Excalibur
Les Enfants du Paradis
Underground
Time of the Gypsies
Gypsy camps vanishes into the blue
2001 : Space Oddissey
Seven Samurai
Ikiru
Mirror
Andrey Rublyov
Memento
Love's a Bitch
Once Upon A time in the west
The good,the bad and the ugly
Godfather
Fly over a cockoo nest
La Strada
etc,.
 
 
Btw.some good films mentioned here fellow progheads Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 17:35
    Dogma
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Ordinary morals are for ordinary people ~ Aleister Crowley
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 19:10
c'mon guys. watch some REAL movies, like BAMBI!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2006 at 17:24
That list needs more python for me to make my decision
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2006 at 17:27
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

That list needs more python for me to make my decision

    


That's what I said!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2006 at 17:30
Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

That list needs more python for me to make my decision

    


That's what I said!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2006 at 17:46
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by inpraiseoffolly inpraiseoffolly wrote:


Dr. Strangelove - Kubrick

You beat me to it. That is my all time favorite. [IMG]alt=Clap src="smileys/smiley32.gif" align=absMiddle>Some other glaring omissions;Annie HallCasablancaFerris Beuhler's Day OffBreaking AwayRain ManThe Day the Earth Stood StillRaiders of the Lost ArkStar Wars (the first one)Some Like it Hot

 

 

Words are paltry to describe the vapidness of Kubrick's films. 

 

 The are simply contrived and dated.  I wated Dr. Stragelove  and it is the worst black comedy I have ever seen.  There is no purpose behind the film. 

 

 

Moreover, why did Kubrick mock the arms race during the 60s.  Kennedy and LBJ were both Democrats so was Kubrick.  At least, Roger Moore has the sanity and level-mindedness to denigrate his opposing party.  Kubrick was a moron. 


Excuse me, I can appreciate an opposing opinion, but that is pretty harsh. No purpose behind the film? How about the idiocy of the arms race? It wasn't aimed at a particular party. Note that he makes fun of every political viewpoint. You can say you don't like his films, but a moron? Wow, I won't even try to explain why that is so very wrong. I'm pretty sure these statements won't be given any careful consideration anyway.     
 
Hey HT, when Asyte2c00 was born in 1988, when he learned to talk there was no USSR, the cold war is probably an urban legend to him, the Praga Spring a dream and the Atomic paranoia is something his grandfather told him.
 
How can you expect him to understand the intelligent and constant flow of sarcasm and insanity that Kubrik gave us in Dr Strangelove if he never feared a total war?.
 
Kubrik didn't respected anybody, the weak Democrat pacifist President (Peter Sellers) the Drunk Prime Minister of USSR, the ignorant Militar (George C Scott), the fanatic pilot, the calmed British officer everybody was a blank for him, the guy was an iconoclast.
 
The same happened in Clockwork Orange, the young criminal, the police, the politicians, nobody had inmunity for Stanley.  
 
Kubrik was a genius, but you need to have lived at least part of this era to be able to understand it. It's hard to understand from today's perspective that in those days, Communits, Democrats or Republicans were all lunatics with enough power to destroy earth 10 times, so all were part of the same insanity, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon were all close to do it, but today it's almost inpossible to understand that for us all were exactly the same risk.
 
Even the smallest kid knew that nobody would win a nuclear war, but still Democtrats, Republicans and Communists kept getting more weapons....this was insane so Kubrik laughed of this insanity.
 
Probably people today will find Mr Bean or Jim Carey funnier than great comedians as Peter Sellers or David Niven, actors as Kevin Costner or Mel Gibson much better than Peter O'Toole or Orson Welles but times change and we must accept this.
 
Now my favorite movies:
 
  1. A Clockwork Orange
  2. The Godfather I and II
  3. Full Metal Jackett
  4. Apocalypse Now
  5. Dr. Strangelove
  6. Blade Runner
  7. Luciene Lacombe
  8. 2001 A Space Odissey
  9. Satiricon
  10. Pulp Fiction

This list changes constantly because Citizen Kane, Cassablanca, The Shinning, Silrence of the Lambs, etc have sometimes a place in my top 10 depending in my mood.

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This is what I mean, I understood these portrayals when I watched the film.  It seems too typical for films like Dr. Strangelove.  One could almost expect the portaryal of these roles in the film. Kubrick took common, perhaps hackneyed plots, and implemented thm into interestin, "hot" subjects and issues like arms race of the 60s.  The requires little work, for everything is at one's disposal. 
 
The most poignant films are usually dramas, and are timeless, meaning they are as relevent todat as they will be million years from now, like Chocolate.  That film is Genius.   Granted, its based off a book, but the adaptation is flawless, everyone carries out their role perfectly.  Its, well, beautiful. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2006 at 18:22
Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

 
This is what I mean, I understood these portrayals when I watched the film.  It seems too typical for films like Dr. Strangelove.  One could almost expect the portaryal of these roles in the film. Kubrick took common, perhaps hackneyed plots, and implemented thm into interestin, "hot" subjects and issues like arms race of the 60s.  The requires little work, for everything is at one's disposal. 
 
Probably in your opinion it was easy, remember we're talking about 1964 when the Hays Code was still on rule ands McCarthy's methods were not totally forgotten.
 
Today in a world of absolute freedom (For most things) is hard to understand the risks Kubrik took with Dr Strangelove (It's a UK/USA co-production), just check what was the rule for movie pictures until 1967:
 
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The Production Code enumerated three "General Principles":

  1. No picture shall be produced that will lower the moral standards of those who see it. Hence the sympathy of the audience should never be thrown to the side of crime, wrongdoing, evil or sin.
  2. Correct standards of life, subject only to the requirements of drama and entertainment, shall be presented.
  3. Law, natural or human, shall not be ridiculed, nor shall sympathy be created for its violation.

Specific restrictions were spelled out as "Particular Applications" of these principles:

  • Nudity and suggestive dances were prohibited.
  • The ridicule of religion was forbidden, and ministers of religion were not to be represented as comic characters or villains.
  • The depiction of illegal drug use was forbidden, as well as the use of liquor, "when not required by the plot or for proper characterization".
  • Methods of crime (e.g. safe-cracking, arson, smuggling) were not to be explicitly presented.
  • References to "sex perversion" (such as homosexuality) and venereal disease were forbidden, as were depictions of childbirth.
  • The language section banned various words and phrases that were considered to be offensive.
  • Murder scenes had to be filmed in a way that would discourage imitations in real life, and brutal killings could not be shown in detail. "Revenge in modern times" was not to be justified.
  • The sanctity of marriage and the home had to be upheld. "Pictures shall not infer that low forms of sex relationship are the accepted or common thing." Adultery and illicit sex, although recognized as sometimes necessary to the plot, could not be explicit or justified and were not supposed to be presented as an attractive option.
  • Portrayals of miscegenation were forbidden.
  • "Scenes of Passion" were not to be introduced when not essential to the plot. "Excessive and lustful kissing" was to be avoided, along with any other treatment that might "stimulate the lower and baser element."
  • The flag of the United States was to be treated respectfully, as were the people and history of other nations.
  • "Vulgarity," defined as "low, disgusting, unpleasant, though not necessarily evil, subjects" must be treated within the "subject to the dictates of good taste". Capital punishment, "third-degree methods", cruelty to children and animals, prostitution and surgical operations were to be handled with similar sensitivity.

Kubrik disrespected each and every rule, he attacked everything sacred and protected, the dialogues are intelligent, making laugh using stupid faces as Jim Carey or Reese Witherspoon's silly pink comedies is easy but to make laugh with what terrified people is hard.

BTW: I have no problem with people quoting my posts,highlighting sections or using larger fonts as a fact I do it always but please don't alter what it's written by others making marks over the words.
 
The most poignant films are usually dramas, and are timeless, meaning they are as relevent todat as they will be million years from now, like Chocolate.  That film is Genius.   Granted, its based off a book, but the adaptation is flawless, everyone carries out their role perfectly.  Its, well, beautiful. 
 
I don't know if you're talking about Chocolat by Clair Dennis or Lasse Halstrom (This one is a comedy) or even Chocolat by Vivek Agnihotri but there's a difference,, they are good directors, Stanley Kubrik is an icon recognized by almost every expert in the world.
 
Stanley will be remembered in 100 years, the rest I doubt it and I believe it's highly disrespectful to call Stanley Kubrik a moron when many of us have expressed admiration for his work because it means we're less than stupids because we admire a moron.
 
If you don't like his movies or are unable to get what we find in them, say it with freedom, but show some respect for other people's opinions.
 
Iván
 
 
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2006 at 18:36
Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:


 
Kubrick was a moron. 


The most poignant films are usually dramas, and are timeless, meaning they are as relevent todat as they will be million years from now, like Chocolate.  That film is Genius.   Granted, its based off a book, but the adaptation is flawless, everyone carries out their role perfectly.  Its, well, beautiful. 


Kubrick moron? Chocolat geniuos? I know who I think's the real moron.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2006 at 01:24
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:


 
Kubrick was a moron. 


The most poignant films are usually dramas, and are timeless, meaning they are as relevent todat as they will be million years from now, like Chocolate.  That film is Genius.   Granted, its based off a book, but the adaptation is flawless, everyone carries out their role perfectly.  Its, well, beautiful. 


Kubrick moron? Chocolat geniuos? I know who I think's the real moron.
 
No need for that either Rocktopus, I also got pissed reading the phrase but we are the ones who must show the right way to argue.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2006 at 03:06
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Cannibal Holocaust !!

    

GO TO HELL!!!

A friend was watching that crap the other day. I only saw a couple of seconds of it, but I'm disgusted beyond reach... every copy of that should be buried... and if you like it so much, at the point of writting the name with exclamation marks in a thread about the best movie ever, you are sadly sick.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2006 at 03:10
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:


 
Kubrick was a moron. 


The most poignant films are usually dramas, and are timeless, meaning they are as relevent todat as they will be million years from now, like Chocolate.  That film is Genius.   Granted, its based off a book, but the adaptation is flawless, everyone carries out their role perfectly.  Its, well, beautiful. 


Kubrick moron? Chocolat geniuos? I know who I think's the real moron.
 
No need for that either Rocktopus, I also got pissed reading the phrase but we are the ones who must show the right way to argue.
 
 
Iván


Sorry, but this time really I had an uncontrollable need. (Of course the moron I was thinking of was...Lasse Hallström!)
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    "Army of Darkness"

out of the list
    

Edited by R o V e R - October 29 2006 at 03:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2006 at 03:23
Above all:

American Beauty



The beginning of Full Metal Jacket
Gladiator
Pulp Fiction
Shawshank Redemption
Reservoir Dogs
Amadeus
Donnie Darko
Crash
Office Space


back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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Crash? I didn't like that at all.  Memento and Young Frankenstein for me!
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