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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2006 at 10:48
Led Zeppelin were so incredibly wide in their style.
They could play Blues, Folk, Rock n Roll... And it always sounded amazingly tight.
I Love'em!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2006 at 12:47
Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

Saying they're over rated just shows how little you know of JPJ's and Bonzo's abilities.



Abilities don't make a band.
    


If you're saying LZ would have done just as well without those two then you are severly mistaken.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2006 at 13:41
The mighty Zeppelin may have grounded after the tragic death of John Bonham, but we - the devoted passengers - are still way up high! And that says about all there is to say.
"We've got to get in to get out"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2006 at 14:27
Must have 20 live version of Dazed and Confused, still want more. First sample I heard I was 14. And still love them Clap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2006 at 14:44

I think the over-praise amongst the 'cooler than thou' music press that see Zep as the only heavy rock band it's 'cool' to like have led many to see them as overrated. Listen to the music divorced from the press coverage and you'll hear why so many love them. I'm personally glad they never did reform, like The Who did after Keith Moon's death, when John Bonham died. All four members were essential to the band's success.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2006 at 15:19
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I think the over-praise amongst the 'cooler than thou' music press that see Zep as the only heavy rock band it's 'cool' to like have led many to see them as overrated. Listen to the music divorced from the press coverage and you'll hear why so many love them. I'm personally glad they never did reform, like The Who did after Keith Moon's death, when John Bonham died. All four members were essential to the band's success.

 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2006 at 09:43
Led Zeppelin was the band that got me into Hard Rock (and later Prog). It started out with Hendrix, who's music taught me to appreciate heavy, guitar-based Rock. Then Zep came along, and I'm stuck since, even if my taste has branched out heavily since then.

The undisputed masters of heavy Rock music. Thank you for a couple of great albums!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2006 at 17:31
Am I allowed to say that I don't like Led Zeppelin?  They are proof that you can only take a blues lick so far.  When I listen to one of their songs, I find myself constantly seeing how much time is left, because playing the same riff over and over doesn't hold my attention.
 
And if that wasn't blasphemous enough, watch this:  I don't think John Bonham is a very good drummer.  He plays boring beats and often does the same fill over and over.  In Black Dog, for example, he does absolutely nothing with the changing time signatures and just plays time right through all of it.  Also, he is not very sensitive to the music in my opinion.  For example, in Achilles Last Stand, there is a part where the band is playing fairly soft, and he jumps into this huge, loud fill on the crash cymbal without any crescendo or anything to lead into it!  Sounds awful to me.  There are also times when the music is screaming for a fill of any kind, and he simply plays time through it.  Not to mention his technical skill isn't anywhere close to as good people say.  He often does predictable fills from the snare down the toms, with no syncopation at all.  Not too hard.  And when he does come up with an interesting fill, he ruins it by playing the exact same thing again somewhere in the song.  It's like he's playing off of sheet music!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2006 at 18:05
Of course you're allowed, Sasquamo, it's just that this was written specifically in appreciation of Zep *separate* from most other bands here. O.K.-- Page was sloppy, Bonham was drunk and Plant did loose a big part of the upper range of his voice some time in 1973. I know this not just from the albums but from boots of which I've heard many, specifically shows from 1972 vs. '73. Having said that, they were absolute dynamite, so good it's not funny, and resented for their success and talent. And both 'Presence' and 'Out Door' are very progressive albums (for hard rock).

Oh, and 'Achilles Last Stand' is f***ing spectacular, and Bonham's drums on that song are some of the greatest recorded in rock history.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2006 at 18:17
ClapIne of my favorite bands, How The West Was won is my favorite live album ever probably.
 
I highly recommend The Complete Studio Recordings box, it's all remastered and a great package
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2006 at 06:35
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

OK, The Wizard, thanks for giving me the opportunity to review Led Zep on this site Wink :
 
LED ZEPPELIN  (2-DVD) -  HOW THE WEST WAS WON

(2003 Atlantic Records, 320 min,  0349 70198-2)

“Playing live was the real jewel in our existence” says Robert Plant in the booklet. Well, this double DVD with only previously unreleased live footage from Led Zeppelin in the Seventies (and extra’s in ’69 and ‘90) shows their captivating development: they started as a powerhouse bluesrock group (DVD 1) but gradually Led Zeppelin  turned into an eclectic rockband (DVD 2) with some mindblowing rock compositions that can compete with the best ‘epic’ progrock songs.

The first DVD contains 12 tracks from a concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 (at that moment Led Zep’s second album was number 1 in the USA and UK!): “We’re gonna groove”, “I can’t quit you babe” (great interplay between Plant’s vocals and Page’s guitar, years before Gillan and Blackmore), “Dazed and confused” (spectacular, legandary act from Page by playing bow on his guitar),  “White summer”, “What is and what should never be” (fine bottle neck solo),” “How many more times” (20 minutes with an excellent Page with lots of solos), “Moby Dick” (the famous drum solo with Bonham playing a few minutes with his bare hands, dynamically filmed from different angles), “Whole lotta love” (‘classic’ guitar riff and solos on bongos and guitar), “Communication breakdown” and the pure R&R songs “C’mon everybody”, ”Something else” and “Bring it on home” (with Plant on harmonica). The extra’s on DVD 1 contain all tracks from ’69 (Page with a beautifully painted Fender Telecaster):  “Communication breakdown promo” (playback version in b/w), “Danmark radio” (“Communication breakdown” with wah-wah solo/”Dazed and confused”/”Babe I’m gonna leave you”, a raw version of one of my favorite Led Zep songs/ “How many more times”, all in b/w), “Supershow” (“Dazed and confused”, spectacular shots) from British TV and “Tous en scene” (“Communication breakdown”/”Dazed and confused”) from Paris TV.
The second DVD starts with “Immigrant Song” (blistering and howling guitar solo) from 1972, followed by three concerts: Madison Squarden Garden from 1973 with “Black dog”, “Misty mountain hop” (JP Jones on the Fender electric piano), “Since I’ve been loving you” (expressive shots from Plant and Page in this blues classic) and “The ocean”, Earls Court from 1975 with three ‘unplugged’ songs titled “Going to California” (JP Jones on a mandolin), “That’s the way”, “Bron yr aur stomp”, followed by “In my time of dying”, “Trampled underfoot” (JP Jones ‘s clavinet gives it a funky climate) and “Stairway to heaven” and Knebworth from 1979 with “Rock and roll”, “Nobody’s fault but mine”, “Sick again”, “Achilles last stand”, “In the evening”, “Kashimir” and “Whole lotta love”. The extra’s include “NYC press conference” from 1970, “Down Under” from 1972 (“Rock and roll/interviews with the band), “The old grey whistle test” from 1975  (Robert Plant interview) and “Promos” from 1990 (“Over the hill and far away”/”Travelling riverside blues”). My personal highlights on this overwhelming 2-DVD set are “White summer” (12-minutes solo on the impressive Danelectro guitar by Page), “Bron yr aur stomp” (great vocals and splendid play by Page on his acoustic Martin: twanging, rhythm and solos), “In my time of dying” (captivating and dynamic song with Page using a bottle-neck on the Danelectro guitar), “Stairway to heaven” (‘killer version’: intro with blue light on JP Jones his Mellotron and Page his Gibson twin-neck guitar and halfway an extended, very compelling guitar solo) and “Kashmir” (wonderful Eastern-oriented atmosphere with JP Jones on the Yamaha GX-1 ‘super synthesizer’). This historical document is already one of my favorite DVD’s and I just read that is has topped the charts in many countries, including the USA and my home country Holland. My conclusion: PLANT IS SEX (“I’ll give you every inch of my love”), PAGE IS GOD (and the best Yardbird) and LED ZEPPELIN IS THE ULTIMATE ROCKBAND (suddenly the Rolling Stones, Who and Beatles seem to sound like overexcited schoolbands). Splendid and timeless music, wonderful packaging and superb sound and images (read the booklet about the unorthodox restoration), this 2-DVD is a triple must!
 
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great thread, i wonder how i succedeed not to notice it. it has great potential, at least more than 2 pages. Confused
and great review erik, too bad you got the wrong release. your review actually concerns the "Led Zepellin: DVD" (http://www.led-zeppelin.com/disc-dvd.html), How The West Was Won is a 3-cd audio release containing a compilation of two concerts from 1972 (http://www.led-zeppelin.com/disc-htwww.html). can't understand how the many zep fans around didn't notice this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2006 at 07:44
I have always thought that the CD and DVD both were entitled How The West Was Won and I think that all visitors on this thread knew what I meant and didn't want to make fuzz about it because it is so obvious what I am talking about Wink
Anyway, thanks for the compliments Andu Thumbs Up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2006 at 07:50
well, keep on! Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2006 at 05:24
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Led Zeppelin was the band that got me into Hard Rock (and later Prog). It started out with Hendrix, who's music taught me to appreciate heavy, guitar-based Rock. Then Zep came along, and I'm stuck since, even if my taste has branched out heavily since then.

The undisputed masters of heavy Rock music. Thank you for a couple of great albums!
 
Yes Led Zeppelin paves the way for the path to prog. Surprisingly I got into Led Zeppelin first, then Hendrix, and finally onto Rush which then turned into prog in general.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 04:48
LZ got me into the whole thing.I play giutar because of Jimmy Page; I listen to classic rock because of them; I'm in prog now because of LZ - once (5 years ago) I bought a book with their name on the cover(pretty rare thing in my town).It was about 5 performers - LZ, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Eric Clapton.Forgot about the last two,but with the first three I'm still in love!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 05:01
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

LZ got me into the whole thing.I play giutar because of Jimmy Page; I listen to classic rock because of them; I'm in prog now because of LZ - once (5 years ago) I bought a book with their name on the cover(pretty rare thing in my town).It was about 5 performers - LZ, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Eric Clapton.Forgot about the last two,but with the first three I'm still in love!!!
 
 
strange book - what was Dead *Elton John* Dead  doing amongst that distinguished company??Confused
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 07:27
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

LZ got me into the whole thing.I play giutar because of Jimmy Page; I listen to classic rock because of them; I'm in prog now because of LZ - once (5 years ago) I bought a book with their name on the cover(pretty rare thing in my town).It was about 5 performers - LZ, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Eric Clapton.Forgot about the last two,but with the first three I'm still in love!!!
 
I dont really care about Elton John. BUt you forgot about Eric Clapton?!?!?Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 07:35
You only have to listen to modern guitar based music and then listen to Zep to realise that whatever sound/style/riff it was, Jimmy did it first.  I bought the Zep remasters double CD a few years ago and I can still listen to it end to end.  There isn't a poor track on it.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 09:07
Did you guys know that Led Zeppelin did a couple of songs based on Lord Of The Rings?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 09:24

as robert plant was into celtic and especially gaelic culture and mithology because of his roots, he was very aware of the materials (both documentary and fiction) on it. at the Earls court he actually speaks Gaelic betwwen songs and i first thought it was arabic Tongue.

stairway, evermore are the more influenced. still you can't say they're "based" on Tolkien, there only are some possible quotes. the strongest influence there is (for the lyrics only, of course) from Magic Arts in Celtic Britain by Lewis Spence.
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