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Topic: Led Zeppelin appreciation
Posted By: The Wizard
Subject: Led Zeppelin appreciation
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 18:59
The Hammer of the Gods need to be discussed without debating how 'prog' they are, so I made this thread. Lets just talk about how awesome these guys were and how they rock are crotches better than anyone else. No prog talk, like "I think they were most prog in this album....".

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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:12
OK, The Wizard, thanks for giving me the opportunity to review Led Zep on this site Wink :
 
LED ZEPPELIN  (2-DVD) -  HOW THE WEST WAS WON

(2003 Atlantic Records, 320 min,  0349 70198-2)

“Playing live was the real jewel in our existence” says Robert Plant in the booklet. Well, this double DVD with only previously unreleased live footage from Led Zeppelin in the Seventies (and extra’s in ’69 and ‘90) shows their captivating development: they started as a powerhouse bluesrock group (DVD 1) but gradually Led Zeppelin  turned into an eclectic rockband (DVD 2) with some mindblowing rock compositions that can compete with the best ‘epic’ progrock songs.

The first DVD contains 12 tracks from a concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 (at that moment Led Zep’s second album was number 1 in the USA and UK!): “We’re gonna groove”, “I can’t quit you babe” (great interplay between Plant’s vocals and Page’s guitar, years before Gillan and Blackmore), “Dazed and confused” (spectacular, legandary act from Page by playing bow on his guitar),  “White summer”, “What is and what should never be” (fine bottle neck solo),” “How many more times” (20 minutes with an excellent Page with lots of solos), “Moby Dick” (the famous drum solo with Bonham playing a few minutes with his bare hands, dynamically filmed from different angles), “Whole lotta love” (‘classic’ guitar riff and solos on bongos and guitar), “Communication breakdown” and the pure R&R songs “C’mon everybody”, ”Something else” and “Bring it on home” (with Plant on harmonica). The extra’s on DVD 1 contain all tracks from ’69 (Page with a beautifully painted Fender Telecaster):  “Communication breakdown promo” (playback version in b/w), “Danmark radio” (“Communication breakdown” with wah-wah solo/”Dazed and confused”/”Babe I’m gonna leave you”, a raw version of one of my favorite Led Zep songs/ “How many more times”, all in b/w), “Supershow” (“Dazed and confused”, spectacular shots) from British TV and “Tous en scene” (“Communication breakdown”/”Dazed and confused”) from Paris TV.
The second DVD starts with “Immigrant Song” (blistering and howling guitar solo) from 1972, followed by three concerts: Madison Squarden Garden from 1973 with “Black dog”, “Misty mountain hop” (JP Jones on the Fender electric piano), “Since I’ve been loving you” (expressive shots from Plant and Page in this blues classic) and “The ocean”, Earls Court from 1975 with three ‘unplugged’ songs titled “Going to California” (JP Jones on a mandolin), “That’s the way”, “Bron yr aur stomp”, followed by “In my time of dying”, “Trampled underfoot” (JP Jones ‘s clavinet gives it a funky climate) and “Stairway to heaven” and Knebworth from 1979 with “Rock and roll”, “Nobody’s fault but mine”, “Sick again”, “Achilles last stand”, “In the evening”, “Kashimir” and “Whole lotta love”. The extra’s include “NYC press conference” from 1970, “Down Under” from 1972 (“Rock and roll/interviews with the band), “The old grey whistle test” from 1975  (Robert Plant interview) and “Promos” from 1990 (“Over the hill and far away”/”Travelling riverside blues”). My personal highlights on this overwhelming 2-DVD set are “White summer” (12-minutes solo on the impressive Danelectro guitar by Page), “Bron yr aur stomp” (great vocals and splendid play by Page on his acoustic Martin: twanging, rhythm and solos), “In my time of dying” (captivating and dynamic song with Page using a bottle-neck on the Danelectro guitar), “Stairway to heaven” (‘killer version’: intro with blue light on JP Jones his Mellotron and Page his Gibson twin-neck guitar and halfway an extended, very compelling guitar solo) and “Kashmir” (wonderful Eastern-oriented atmosphere with JP Jones on the Yamaha GX-1 ‘super synthesizer’). This historical document is already one of my favorite DVD’s and I just read that is has topped the charts in many countries, including the USA and my home country Holland. My conclusion: PLANT IS SEX (“I’ll give you every inch of my love”), PAGE IS GOD (and the best Yardbird) and LED ZEPPELIN IS THE ULTIMATE ROCKBAND (suddenly the Rolling Stones, Who and Beatles seem to sound like overexcited schoolbands). Splendid and timeless music, wonderful packaging and superb sound and images (read the booklet about the unorthodox restoration), this 2-DVD is a triple must!
 
                               A big hand for Led Zep Clap


Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:13
Have all their albums.  Good band, but not one of my favorites.
 
Most Recent Rolling Stone issues labelled LZ as the "Heaviest Band of Alltime"
 
Sabbath
Purple
Heep
Earing
Wishbone Ash perhaps
Priest
Maiden
Motohead
 
 
Led Zepplin is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated.  Goood band, just overrated. 


Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:14
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

OK, The Wizard, thanks for giving me the opportunity to review Led Zep on this site Wink :
 
LED ZEPPELIN  (2-DVD) -  HOW THE WEST WAS WON

(2003 Atlantic Records, 320 min,  0349 70198-2)

“Playing live was the real jewel in our existence” says Robert Plant in the booklet. Well, this double DVD with only previously unreleased live footage from Led Zeppelin in the Seventies (and extra’s in ’69 and ‘90) shows their captivating development: they started as a powerhouse bluesrock group (DVD 1) but gradually Led Zeppelin  turned into an eclectic rockband (DVD 2) with some mindblowing rock compositions that can compete with the best ‘epic’ progrock songs.

The first DVD contains 12 tracks from a concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 (at that moment Led Zep’s second album was number 1 in the USA and UK!): “We’re gonna groove”, “I can’t quit you babe” (great interplay between Plant’s vocals and Page’s guitar, years before Gillan and Blackmore), “Dazed and confused” (spectacular, legandary act from Page by playing bow on his guitar),  “White summer”, “What is and what should never be” (fine bottle neck solo),” “How many more times” (20 minutes with an excellent Page with lots of solos), “Moby Dick” (the famous drum solo with Bonham playing a few minutes with his bare hands, dynamically filmed from different angles), “Whole lotta love” (‘classic’ guitar riff and solos on bongos and guitar), “Communication breakdown” and the pure R&R songs “C’mon everybody”, ”Something else” and “Bring it on home” (with Plant on harmonica). The extra’s on DVD 1 contain all tracks from ’69 (Page with a beautifully painted Fender Telecaster):  “Communication breakdown promo” (playback version in b/w), “Danmark radio” (“Communication breakdown” with wah-wah solo/”Dazed and confused”/”Babe I’m gonna leave you”, a raw version of one of my favorite Led Zep songs/ “How many more times”, all in b/w), “Supershow” (“Dazed and confused”, spectacular shots) from British TV and “Tous en scene” (“Communication breakdown”/”Dazed and confused”) from Paris TV.
The second DVD starts with “Immigrant Song” (blistering and howling guitar solo) from 1972, followed by three concerts: Madison Squarden Garden from 1973 with “Black dog”, “Misty mountain hop” (JP Jones on the Fender electric piano), “Since I’ve been loving you” (expressive shots from Plant and Page in this blues classic) and “The ocean”, Earls Court from 1975 with three ‘unplugged’ songs titled “Going to California” (JP Jones on a mandolin), “That’s the way”, “Bron yr aur stomp”, followed by “In my time of dying”, “Trampled underfoot” (JP Jones ‘s clavinet gives it a funky climate) and “Stairway to heaven” and Knebworth from 1979 with “Rock and roll”, “Nobody’s fault but mine”, “Sick again”, “Achilles last stand”, “In the evening”, “Kashimir” and “Whole lotta love”. The extra’s include “NYC press conference” from 1970, “Down Under” from 1972 (“Rock and roll/interviews with the band), “The old grey whistle test” from 1975  (Robert Plant interview) and “Promos” from 1990 (“Over the hill and far away”/”Travelling riverside blues”). My personal highlights on this overwhelming 2-DVD set are “White summer” (12-minutes solo on the impressive Danelectro guitar by Page), “Bron yr aur stomp” (great vocals and splendid play by Page on his acoustic Martin: twanging, rhythm and solos), “In my time of dying” (captivating and dynamic song with Page using a bottle-neck on the Danelectro guitar), “Stairway to heaven” (‘killer version’: intro with blue light on JP Jones his Mellotron and Page his Gibson twin-neck guitar and halfway an extended, very compelling guitar solo) and “Kashmir” (wonderful Eastern-oriented atmosphere with JP Jones on the Yamaha GX-1 ‘super synthesizer’). This historical document is already one of my favorite DVD’s and I just read that is has topped the charts in many countries, including the USA and my home country Holland. My conclusion: PLANT IS SEX (“I’ll give you every inch of my love”), PAGE IS GOD (and the best Yardbird) and LED ZEPPELIN IS THE ULTIMATE ROCKBAND (suddenly the Rolling Stones, Who and Beatles seem to sound like overexcited schoolbands). Splendid and timeless music, wonderful packaging and superb sound and images (read the booklet about the unorthodox restoration), this 2-DVD is a triple must!
 
                               A big hand for Led Zep Clap
 
 
One of My favorite Live Albums of all time. 


Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:21
New rule: Can't say they're overrated.
 
I wrote this on Led Zeppelin III:
 
Forget what the crtitics tell you, this is Led Zeppelin true masterpiece. They carry a resonance here that is only heard on this album. This album is also very diverse and show there sound evolving. Expanding upon the folk rock elements previoulsy explored, the whole second side is almost entirely acoustic. This drew some critism from fans of the Zeppelin's heavier side. What they didn't see was the beauty in those acoustic numbers. But fear not, becuase there are still some great rockers on this album and the atmospere is still positively Zep. By far this Led Zeppelins best album as songwriters. I think it's there best.


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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:23
THE MIGHTY LED ZEPPELIN, DUDES !!
 
Clap
 
 
 
= GODS OF ROCK N' ROLL !!
 
By far, one of my favourite bands, if not the most favourite one !! Also, one of the very first bands I really got into !! Just look at my signature and avatar !! Big smile I love this band veeeeery much, it's hard to describe this with words, they're just the GODS of Rock N' Roll !!
 
So, again:
 
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:26
Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

Have all their albums.  Good band, but not one of my favorites.
 
(...)
 
 
Led Zepplin is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated.  Goood band, just overrated. 
 
Confused What ?
 
Angry YOU CAN'T SAY THEY'RE OVERRATED !!
 
Seriously, what's overrated about them ???? Confused


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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:27
Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

Have all their albums.  Good band, but not one of my favorites.
 
(...)
 
 
Led Zepplin is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated.  Goood band, just overrated. 
 
Confused What ?
 
Angry YOU CAN'T SAY THEY'RE OVERRATED !!
 
Seriously, what's overrated about them ???? Confused
Exactly. Led Zeppelin are so good they're almost underrated!Tongue

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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:32
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

New rule: Can't say they're overrated.
 
I wrote this on Led Zeppelin III:
 
Forget what the crtitics tell you, this is Led Zeppelin true masterpiece. They carry a resonance here that is only heard on this album. This album is also very diverse and show there sound evolving. Expanding upon the folk rock elements previoulsy explored, the whole second side is almost entirely acoustic. This drew some critism from fans of the Zeppelin's heavier side. What they didn't see was the beauty in those acoustic numbers. But fear not, becuase there are still some great rockers on this album and the atmospere is still positively Zep. By far this Led Zeppelins best album as songwriters. I think it's there best.
 
 
You are as familiar with Zeps material as I am.  I have listned to all of thei studio albums, BBC Sessions, and the How the West Was Won  and have formulated an opinion, that they are a solid rock outfit with many good songs. 
 
BTw, listned to some British Acid Folkl like Trees, Forest, Comus, and Ecclection and them listen to LZ III.  It seems british acid folk compilation. 
 
 
 
Joy Division or Led Zeppelin.   I have to choose the former, Robert Plant never moved me the Way ian Curtis has.  Curtis is more emotiona than Plant.   


Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:36
Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

New rule: Can't say they're overrated.
 
I wrote this on Led Zeppelin III:
 
Forget what the crtitics tell you, this is Led Zeppelin true masterpiece. They carry a resonance here that is only heard on this album. This album is also very diverse and show there sound evolving. Expanding upon the folk rock elements previoulsy explored, the whole second side is almost entirely acoustic. This drew some critism from fans of the Zeppelin's heavier side. What they didn't see was the beauty in those acoustic numbers. But fear not, becuase there are still some great rockers on this album and the atmospere is still positively Zep. By far this Led Zeppelins best album as songwriters. I think it's there best.
 
 
You are as familiar with Zeps material as I am.  I have listned to all of thei studio albums, BBC Sessions, and the How the West Was Won  and have formulated an opinion, that they are a solid rock outfit with many good songs. 
 
BTw, listned to some British Acid Folkl like Trees, Forest, Comus, and Ecclection and them listen to LZ III.  It seems british acid folk compilation. 
 
 
 
Joy Division or Led Zeppelin.   I have to choose the former, Robert Plant never moved me the Way ian Curtis has.  Curtis is more emotiona than Plant.   
 
That's like comparing apples and oranges!
 
Out on the Tiles is a great song by the way, I don't get why some people call it weak. It makes me happy.


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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:56
To the big fans of Led Zeppelin:
 
What are some of your favorite PROG bands from the 60's and 70's?  Do you compare them at all?
 
ALso, what other classic rock bands do you enjoy?
 
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:00
Lately I prefer Robert Plant´s solo output. The album Dreamland is incredible (seems his voice is getting better with age)
But back to Zeppelin, Led Zep 3 is a must have!
Great band, almost as good as Purple!<img


Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:06
Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

Lately I prefer Robert Plant´s solo output. The album Dreamland is incredible (seems his voice is getting better with age)
But back to Zeppelin, Led Zep 3 is a must have!
Great band, almost as good as Purple!<img
 
 
Plant lost his voice after Houses of the Holy  


Posted By: willy
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:34
Saying they're over rated just shows how little you know of JPJ's and Bonzo's abilities.

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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:35
Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

Saying they're over rated just shows how little you know of JPJ's and Bonzo's abilities.



Abilities don't make a band.
    

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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:41
 
Plant lost his voice after Houses of the Holy  
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That is just crazy talk son!


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:43
Zep rules, end of story.

  ClapClapClapClapClap


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 07:31
Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

Lately I prefer Robert Plant´s solo output. The album Dreamland is incredible (seems his voice is getting better with age)
But back to Zeppelin, Led Zep 3 is a must have!
Great band, almost as good as Purple!<img
 
 
Plant lost his voice after Houses of the Holy  
I don't see much wrong with his singing on "Physical Graffiti" (or any others after HOTH for that matter). If only I could sing half as well as Planty on "Kashmir"!


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 07:37
I'm fond of Stairway To Heaven in the Song Remains The Same interpretation...and generally, I'm fond of Song Remains The Same album.

but that's about it.Led Zep are a point on which I can't stand.


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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 10:44
Led Zeppelin still are and always will be my favourite band of all time for many reasons, they became the standard many other bands were judged by, the blueprint for a whole generation of music and their legacy lives on. Since i first heard them in 1969 their electric magic has worked on me ever since - some accused them of plagiarising the work of  Blues musicians, some i may never have heard if it wasn't for Zeppelin, and their folk influences and associations such as Joan Baez and Sandy Denny, and many musicians who they influenced in turn. They had a great manager in Peter Grant, the rock the band was built upon. Their Earl's Court concerts in 1975 were legendary, they were on top form - the best gig i ever saw, each member of the band a seasoned virtuoso and influential in their respective fields. They made eight classic studio albums, and "Coda", a collection of out-takes, material most bands would give their right arm for, and a brilliant live album "The Song Remains the Same", a relief from those muddy bootleg tapes! The BBC sessions album is no less stunning, and "How the West was Won" introduced a whole new generation of fans. Page and Plant reassociated and reworked some of Zeppelin's classic songs to amazing effect, and Robert Plant's current band "Strange Sensation" continue to forge ahead with new ideas.
Led Zeppelin still continue to collect many honours and awards to this day, and will always be legendary. What more can i say...Led Zeppelin...the greatest band of all time!!!Clap
 
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 10:48
Led Zeppelin were so incredibly wide in their style.
They could play Blues, Folk, Rock n Roll... And it always sounded amazingly tight.
I Love'em!


Posted By: willy
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 12:47
Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

Saying they're over rated just shows how little you know of JPJ's and Bonzo's abilities.



Abilities don't make a band.
    


If you're saying LZ would have done just as well without those two then you are severly mistaken.


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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 13:41
The mighty Zeppelin may have grounded after the tragic death of John Bonham, but we - the devoted passengers - are still way up high! And that says about all there is to say.


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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 14:27
Must have 20 live version of Dazed and Confused, still want more. First sample I heard I was 14. And still love them Clap.


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 14:44

I think the over-praise amongst the 'cooler than thou' music press that see Zep as the only heavy rock band it's 'cool' to like have led many to see them as overrated. Listen to the music divorced from the press coverage and you'll hear why so many love them. I'm personally glad they never did reform, like The Who did after Keith Moon's death, when John Bonham died. All four members were essential to the band's success.



Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 15:19
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I think the over-praise amongst the 'cooler than thou' music press that see Zep as the only heavy rock band it's 'cool' to like have led many to see them as overrated. Listen to the music divorced from the press coverage and you'll hear why so many love them. I'm personally glad they never did reform, like The Who did after Keith Moon's death, when John Bonham died. All four members were essential to the band's success.

 
 
 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 09:43
Led Zeppelin was the band that got me into Hard Rock (and later Prog). It started out with Hendrix, who's music taught me to appreciate heavy, guitar-based Rock. Then Zep came along, and I'm stuck since, even if my taste has branched out heavily since then.

The undisputed masters of heavy Rock music. Thank you for a couple of great albums!


Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 17:31
Am I allowed to say that I don't like Led Zeppelin?  They are proof that you can only take a blues lick so far.  When I listen to one of their songs, I find myself constantly seeing how much time is left, because playing the same riff over and over doesn't hold my attention.
 
And if that wasn't blasphemous enough, watch this:  I don't think John Bonham is a very good drummer.  He plays boring beats and often does the same fill over and over.  In Black Dog, for example, he does absolutely nothing with the changing time signatures and just plays time right through all of it.  Also, he is not very sensitive to the music in my opinion.  For example, in Achilles Last Stand, there is a part where the band is playing fairly soft, and he jumps into this huge, loud fill on the crash cymbal without any crescendo or anything to lead into it!  Sounds awful to me.  There are also times when the music is screaming for a fill of any kind, and he simply plays time through it.  Not to mention his technical skill isn't anywhere close to as good people say.  He often does predictable fills from the snare down the toms, with no syncopation at all.  Not too hard.  And when he does come up with an interesting fill, he ruins it by playing the exact same thing again somewhere in the song.  It's like he's playing off of sheet music!
 
I'm done.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 18:05
Of course you're allowed, Sasquamo, it's just that this was written specifically in appreciation of Zep *separate* from most other bands here. O.K.-- Page was sloppy, Bonham was drunk and Plant did loose a big part of the upper range of his voice some time in 1973. I know this not just from the albums but from boots of which I've heard many, specifically shows from 1972 vs. '73. Having said that, they were absolute dynamite, so good it's not funny, and resented for their success and talent. And both 'Presence' and 'Out Door' are very progressive albums (for hard rock).

Oh, and 'Achilles Last Stand' is f***ing spectacular, and Bonham's drums on that song are some of the greatest recorded in rock history.
    


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 18:17
ClapIne of my favorite bands, How The West Was won is my favorite live album ever probably.
 
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 06:35
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

OK, The Wizard, thanks for giving me the opportunity to review Led Zep on this site Wink :
 
LED ZEPPELIN  (2-DVD) -  HOW THE WEST WAS WON

(2003 Atlantic Records, 320 min,  0349 70198-2)

“Playing live was the real jewel in our existence” says Robert Plant in the booklet. Well, this double DVD with only previously unreleased live footage from Led Zeppelin in the Seventies (and extra’s in ’69 and ‘90) shows their captivating development: they started as a powerhouse bluesrock group (DVD 1) but gradually Led Zeppelin  turned into an eclectic rockband (DVD 2) with some mindblowing rock compositions that can compete with the best ‘epic’ progrock songs.

The first DVD contains 12 tracks from a concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 (at that moment Led Zep’s second album was number 1 in the USA and UK!): “We’re gonna groove”, “I can’t quit you babe” (great interplay between Plant’s vocals and Page’s guitar, years before Gillan and Blackmore), “Dazed and confused” (spectacular, legandary act from Page by playing bow on his guitar),  “White summer”, “What is and what should never be” (fine bottle neck solo),” “How many more times” (20 minutes with an excellent Page with lots of solos), “Moby Dick” (the famous drum solo with Bonham playing a few minutes with his bare hands, dynamically filmed from different angles), “Whole lotta love” (‘classic’ guitar riff and solos on bongos and guitar), “Communication breakdown” and the pure R&R songs “C’mon everybody”, ”Something else” and “Bring it on home” (with Plant on harmonica). The extra’s on DVD 1 contain all tracks from ’69 (Page with a beautifully painted Fender Telecaster):  “Communication breakdown promo” (playback version in b/w), “Danmark radio” (“Communication breakdown” with wah-wah solo/”Dazed and confused”/”Babe I’m gonna leave you”, a raw version of one of my favorite Led Zep songs/ “How many more times”, all in b/w), “Supershow” (“Dazed and confused”, spectacular shots) from British TV and “Tous en scene” (“Communication breakdown”/”Dazed and confused”) from Paris TV.
The second DVD starts with “Immigrant Song” (blistering and howling guitar solo) from 1972, followed by three concerts: Madison Squarden Garden from 1973 with “Black dog”, “Misty mountain hop” (JP Jones on the Fender electric piano), “Since I’ve been loving you” (expressive shots from Plant and Page in this blues classic) and “The ocean”, Earls Court from 1975 with three ‘unplugged’ songs titled “Going to California” (JP Jones on a mandolin), “That’s the way”, “Bron yr aur stomp”, followed by “In my time of dying”, “Trampled underfoot” (JP Jones ‘s clavinet gives it a funky climate) and “Stairway to heaven” and Knebworth from 1979 with “Rock and roll”, “Nobody’s fault but mine”, “Sick again”, “Achilles last stand”, “In the evening”, “Kashimir” and “Whole lotta love”. The extra’s include “NYC press conference” from 1970, “Down Under” from 1972 (“Rock and roll/interviews with the band), “The old grey whistle test” from 1975  (Robert Plant interview) and “Promos” from 1990 (“Over the hill and far away”/”Travelling riverside blues”). My personal highlights on this overwhelming 2-DVD set are “White summer” (12-minutes solo on the impressive Danelectro guitar by Page), “Bron yr aur stomp” (great vocals and splendid play by Page on his acoustic Martin: twanging, rhythm and solos), “In my time of dying” (captivating and dynamic song with Page using a bottle-neck on the Danelectro guitar), “Stairway to heaven” (‘killer version’: intro with blue light on JP Jones his Mellotron and Page his Gibson twin-neck guitar and halfway an extended, very compelling guitar solo) and “Kashmir” (wonderful Eastern-oriented atmosphere with JP Jones on the Yamaha GX-1 ‘super synthesizer’). This historical document is already one of my favorite DVD’s and I just read that is has topped the charts in many countries, including the USA and my home country Holland. My conclusion: PLANT IS SEX (“I’ll give you every inch of my love”), PAGE IS GOD (and the best Yardbird) and LED ZEPPELIN IS THE ULTIMATE ROCKBAND (suddenly the Rolling Stones, Who and Beatles seem to sound like overexcited schoolbands). Splendid and timeless music, wonderful packaging and superb sound and images (read the booklet about the unorthodox restoration), this 2-DVD is a triple must!
 
                               A big hand for Led Zep Clap
 
 
great thread, i wonder how i succedeed not to notice it. it has great potential, at least more than 2 pages. Confused
and great review erik, too bad you got the wrong release. your review actually concerns the "Led Zepellin: DVD" ( http://www.led-zeppelin.com/disc-dvd.html - http://www.led-zeppelin.com/disc-dvd.html ), How The West Was Won is a 3-cd audio release containing a compilation of two concerts from 1972 ( http://www.led-zeppelin.com/disc-htwww.html - http://www.led-zeppelin.com/disc-htwww.html ). can't understand how the many zep fans around didn't notice this.


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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 07:44
I have always thought that the CD and DVD both were entitled How The West Was Won and I think that all visitors on this thread knew what I meant and didn't want to make fuzz about it because it is so obvious what I am talking about Wink
Anyway, thanks for the compliments Andu Thumbs Up


Posted By: andu
Date Posted: October 25 2006 at 07:50
well, keep on! Thumbs Up

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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 05:24
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Led Zeppelin was the band that got me into Hard Rock (and later Prog). It started out with Hendrix, who's music taught me to appreciate heavy, guitar-based Rock. Then Zep came along, and I'm stuck since, even if my taste has branched out heavily since then.

The undisputed masters of heavy Rock music. Thank you for a couple of great albums!
 
Yes Led Zeppelin paves the way for the path to prog. Surprisingly I got into Led Zeppelin first, then Hendrix, and finally onto Rush which then turned into prog in general.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 04:48
LZ got me into the whole thing.I play giutar because of Jimmy Page; I listen to classic rock because of them; I'm in prog now because of LZ - once (5 years ago) I bought a book with their name on the cover(pretty rare thing in my town).It was about 5 performers - LZ, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Eric Clapton.Forgot about the last two,but with the first three I'm still in love!!!


Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 05:01
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

LZ got me into the whole thing.I play giutar because of Jimmy Page; I listen to classic rock because of them; I'm in prog now because of LZ - once (5 years ago) I bought a book with their name on the cover(pretty rare thing in my town).It was about 5 performers - LZ, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Eric Clapton.Forgot about the last two,but with the first three I'm still in love!!!
 
 
strange book - what was Dead *Elton John* Dead  doing amongst that distinguished company??Confused
 
 
 


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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 07:27
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

LZ got me into the whole thing.I play giutar because of Jimmy Page; I listen to classic rock because of them; I'm in prog now because of LZ - once (5 years ago) I bought a book with their name on the cover(pretty rare thing in my town).It was about 5 performers - LZ, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Eric Clapton.Forgot about the last two,but with the first three I'm still in love!!!
 
I dont really care about Elton John. BUt you forgot about Eric Clapton?!?!?Shocked


Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 07:35
You only have to listen to modern guitar based music and then listen to Zep to realise that whatever sound/style/riff it was, Jimmy did it first.  I bought the Zep remasters double CD a few years ago and I can still listen to it end to end.  There isn't a poor track on it.
 
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 09:07
Did you guys know that Led Zeppelin did a couple of songs based on Lord Of The Rings?


Posted By: andu
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 09:24

as robert plant was into celtic and especially gaelic culture and mithology because of his roots, he was very aware of the materials (both documentary and fiction) on it. at the Earls court he actually speaks Gaelic betwwen songs and i first thought it was arabic Tongue.

stairway, evermore are the more influenced. still you can't say they're "based" on Tolkien, there only are some possible quotes. the strongest influence there is (for the lyrics only, of course) from Magic Arts in Celtic Britain by Lewis Spence.


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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 09:45
Actually Battle Of Evermore and another song (I can't remember the name right now) had strong influences from Tolkien.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 18:11
...and I think Plant grew up near where Tolkien set his books.


Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 18:29
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

...and I think Plant grew up near where Tolkien set his books.


Funny you should say that...I live about 5 minutes walk from one of the many places Tolkien gained inspiration for Fangorn/Mirkwood descriptions.

At the end of the first film, at Amon Hen (where the Urak Hai kidnap Merry and Pippin), I swear one of the screenshots was set in the woods 5 minutes from my house! Credit to Peter Jackson and co. for sticking so damn close to Tolkein's various woodland descriptions - which are often so impenetrable I simply can't read them.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 20:58
It sounds lovely. England was by far my favorite place when I visited the Isles and Europe. I'm Scottish, btw


Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: October 28 2006 at 06:37
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It sounds lovely. England was by far my favorite place when I visited the Isles and Europe. I'm Scottish, btw
I have scottish ancestry but am technically English because my dad was born here.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 28 2006 at 22:13
Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It sounds lovely. England was by far my favorite place when I visited the Isles and Europe. I'm Scottish, btw

I have scottish ancestry but am technically English because my dad was born here.



If it's not Scottish it's crap
    


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: October 29 2006 at 04:41
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

LZ got me into the whole thing.I play giutar because of Jimmy Page; I listen to classic rock because of them; I'm in prog now because of LZ - once (5 years ago) I bought a book with their name on the cover(pretty rare thing in my town).It was about 5 performers - LZ, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Eric Clapton.Forgot about the last two,but with the first three I'm still in love!!!

 

 

strange book - what was  *Elton John* doing amongst that distinguished company??
 



Well,the book was based on Seva Novgorodzev's (well-known Russian radio-DJ,now lives in London) programms about rockers of the past.Maybe his affection to EJ is something personal?   
    


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: October 29 2006 at 04:43
Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:


I dont really care about Elton John. BUt you forgot about Eric Clapton?!?!?[


I listen to CREAM sometimes,but nothing more.Even Layla didn't touch me
    


Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: October 29 2006 at 04:48
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:


I dont really care about Elton John. BUt you forgot about Eric Clapton?!?!?[


I listen to CREAM sometimes,but nothing more.Even Layla didn't touch me
    

     


Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: October 29 2006 at 05:28

This is my LZ list, in order of preference:

Led Zeppelin II
Led Zeppelin III
Houses of the Holy
Led Zeppelin (IV or Untitled or 4 Symbols or ZoSo, you name it - this is the album which features "Stairway..." - ooops, I forgot this particular song titleWink)
Physical Graffitti
Presence
Led Zeppelin (first album)
In Through the Out Door
 
By the way, "Led Zeppelin" is one of the best box sets ever.


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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 08:56
I can rarely get bored with Led Zep. I only partially dislike their first album (too bluesy for me), Presence (some dull songs, but Achilles alone makes it worth listening to) and In through... (same as Presence). Actually I think they made most of hard rock/blues-rock bands sound absolutely useless and disposable (I won't give examples because I don't want to offend anyone) 


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 09:03
As Led Zep are now part of the site, I'll move this thread to the PP and PR Lounge.

My favourite album by them is of course "IV", followed by "Houses of the Holy" and "III". "Physical Graffiti" has a bit too much filler towards the end, while "Presence", as uneven as it may be, contains some killer tracks. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the first two albums, for all their raw energy and freshness.


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 09:05
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

...and I think Plant grew up near where Tolkien set his books.



Indeed - though Tolkien's books are set in an imaginary land rather than in real-life England. Plant is from Birmingham, and Tolkien grew up in the Birmingham area, before moving to Oxford to pursue his higher education.



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