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epifreak 
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 Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:11 |
Hmm...I'd say crossover. It was between crossover and gangsta rap, and here's why the crossover gets the finger. Crossover country is a complete b*****dization of country music, a genre that has seen its fair share of good music. Crossover has forced me to implement a special rule for country: if it wasn't made before I was born, it's probably not worth it. Gangsta rap is a b*****dization of rap, a genre I have found very little value in. So, since crossover country (aka southern pop) devalues a genre I see more value in than Gangsta Rap does, 
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darkshade
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 01:26 |
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i cant stand hair metal. i used to refer to it as 'gay metal' when i was younger, but now i just call it 'commercial, watered-down, emotionless, pointless, gay metal'
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The Whistler
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 01:28 |
OH! Classic rock reunions! Hit us below the belt why don'tcah?!?
I think I'll say rap, because the others are at least music...sorta...
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Peter
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 15:39 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 15:41 |
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Peter
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 15:49 |
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Could take the "chrome right off a trailer hitch," eh Dan? 
("Blow" is just an expression, BTW....) 
Doesn't this belong in the "organ solos" thread? 
Edited by Peter Rideout - October 03 2006 at 15:56
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: October 04 2006 at 15:17 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Dan Bobrowski wrote:
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Could take the "chrome right off a trailer hitch," eh Dan?
("Blow" is just an expression, BTW....)
Doesn't this belong in the "organ solos" thread? |
I've always wanted to to hire a female gardener to decorate my music room. Nothing better than tulips on my organ to brighten the room. 
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Peter
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Posted: October 04 2006 at 19:59 |
^ Yes, those were the days, kids, when ol' Dan was a regular here, and we had these sorts of highbrow, inspiring, deep philosophical discussions all of the time.
Sigh.
"Prog: what is it, why is it, where has it been, where is it going, why does it smell funny, what is its place in the greater Western musico-social culture, and who really gives a flying f**k anyway?" 
(2500 wds min.)
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Sasquamo
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Posted: October 04 2006 at 20:24 |
What, no one hates disco?
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Peter
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Posted: October 04 2006 at 20:31 |
Sasquamo wrote:
What, no one hates disco? |
I really don't like it, but it's pretty darned harmless compared to the worst gangsta rap, the metal that glorifies pain & death, etc, and the angry, woman-hating lyrics I so often hear on the radio these days.
Well it ain't no surprise
That you'd turn me on and leave
It ain't no surprise
That you'd turn it around on me
I don't know why
You won't give me what I need
It ain't no surprise
That that bitch is leavin' me
That that bitch is leavin' me
Yep, she's just another one of your possessions -- there only to please you -- or to be killed when she no longer does so:
I like your pants around your feet
I like the dirt that's on your knees
And I like the way you still say please
While you're looking up at me
You're like my favourite damn disease
And I love the way you pass the check
And I love the good times that you wreck
And I love your lack of self respect
While you're passed out on the deck
I love my hands around your neck
Sick.
Edited by Peter Rideout - October 04 2006 at 20:59
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Logan
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Posted: October 04 2006 at 20:41 |
Gangsta Rap gives gangstas a bad name. 
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valravennz
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Posted: October 05 2006 at 05:13 |
Can anyone understand what the Gangsta's are rapping about?? ...As I don't understand gangsta lingo, I can't stand Gangsta Rap or any form of Rap music - if you can call it music!?! 
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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Visitor13
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 13:51 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Sasquamo wrote:
What, no one hates disco? |
I really don't like it, but it's pretty darned harmless compared to the worst gangsta rap, the metal that glorifies pain & death, etc, and the angry, woman-hating lyrics I so often hear on the radio these days.
Well it ain't no surprise
That you'd turn me on and leave
It ain't no surprise
That you'd turn it around on me
I don't know why
You won't give me what I need
It ain't no surprise
That that bitch is leavin' me
That that bitch is leavin' me
Yep, she's just another one of your possessions -- there only to please you -- or to be killed when she no longer does so:
I like your pants around your feet
I like the dirt that's on your knees
And I like the way you still say please
While you're looking up at me
You're like my favourite damn disease
And I love the way you pass the check
And I love the good times that you wreck
And I love your lack of self respect
While you're passed out on the deck
I love my hands around your neck
Sick. |
Well, there goes the blues.
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jalas
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 14:04 |
How can rap even be called music? you can call it poetry all you want (hmm), but Music is definately not what it is. Music should be played by people. It gives a real sense of human emotion when music is done manually. Preprogrammed beats is just more evidence of how robots are taking over the world.
I would like to say something about punk though. It sucks. Just because rock music seemed unaccessable at the time of the birth of punk, doesn't mean that it should be accessable.
Disco is cool. I don't like it, but I do respect it.
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Visitor13
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 14:07 |
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^ so DJ Shadow, Aphex Twin, Conlon Nancarrow and countless others don't/didn't create music?
Edited by Visitor13 - October 06 2006 at 14:08
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 14:13 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Sasquamo wrote:
What, no one hates disco? |
I really don't like it, but it's pretty darned harmless compared to the worst gangsta rap, the metal that glorifies pain & death, etc, and the angry, woman-hating lyrics I so often hear on the radio these days.
Well it ain't no surprise
That you'd turn me on and leave
It ain't no surprise
That you'd turn it around on me
I don't know why
You won't give me what I need
It ain't no surprise
That that bitch is leavin' me
That that bitch is leavin' me
Yep, she's just another one of your possessions -- there only to please you -- or to be killed when she no longer does so:
I like your pants around your feet
I like the dirt that's on your knees
And I like the way you still say please
While you're looking up at me
You're like my favourite damn disease
And I love the way you pass the check
And I love the good times that you wreck
And I love your lack of self respect
While you're passed out on the deck
I love my hands around your neck
Sick. |
Well, Nickelback suck and write the same song 30 times with different titles, and every time everyone seems to be fooled  As far as rap/electronic beats: I don't see rap as music. Rather, it is talking OVER music. The background beat, although usually very simplistic, DOES qualify as music, however, the actual "rapping" is nothing more than talking, although occasionally on beat (though much less so these days ....seriously they sound drunk half the time) As far as electronic music, well, we have electronic prog don't we? I mean, of course thats far, far different than the beats we're discussing, but the point is, music can be made from electronics, many bands are implementing them into their music nowadays. Techno and other elctronic dance genres can also be suprisingly musical
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Visitor13
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 14:17 |
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As far as rapping being just talking is concerned - in some cases this is true, but there are enough highly accomplished non-rap musicians out there (like Anthony Braxton or Steve Coleman) who will disagree with you on that.
Edited by Visitor13 - October 06 2006 at 14:18
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el böthy
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Posted: October 11 2006 at 14:43 |
Jenna Jameson...she sucks more than all thouse put together...
snap!!!
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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markosherrera
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 02:23 |
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REGGAETON,VALLENATO,BRUTAL DEATH AND BLACK METAL AND THE 99% OF MTV MUSIC.
Edited by markosherrera - October 15 2006 at 02:37
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markosherrera
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Posted: October 27 2006 at 15:19 |
The Genesis song called MAMA ,.... because many times say MAMA,MAMA,MAMA......all the time.
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