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    Posted: October 02 2006 at 18:46
Wo since when did we add Iron freakin' Maiden!
 
I love those guys with a passion that none of you can comprehend, but prog???
 
7th son is the only album I can even consider prog-related, so how did you guys come up with this?
 
Not that it's a bad thing, I'll be spewing out reviews on about every single album, but I'd love to know the criteria behind this decision.
 
 I think I'll start with powerslaveBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 18:55
One of my favorite bands ever, but not nearly prog enough to be here.
 
Good music doesn't have to be prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:01
Used to be huge fan of IM. Have all their albums upto and including Powerslave - after this one I lost interest, as by that time I was already moving towards progressive music in my preferences.
 
Good band, but got nothing to do with prog.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:02
I think they're prog enough to be here. I mean, they're way more prog than most of those other prog-related bands featured here!!!

Edited by Bj-1 - October 02 2006 at 19:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:05
and led zep????



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:06
Originally posted by lightbulb_son lightbulb_son wrote:

Wo since when did we add Iron freakin' Maiden!
 

I love those guys with a passion that none of you can comprehend, but prog???

 

7th son is the only album I can even consider prog-related, so how did you guys come up with this?

 

Not that it's a bad thing, I'll be spewing out reviews on about every single album, but I'd love to know the criteria behind this decision.

 

 I think I'll start with powerslave[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:07
This should be in the prog-related lounge. Besides, it's stretching it to call Iron Maiden prog-related, IMHO.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:09
Prog Related
Rock and Pop Bands and Artists after 1970 who were not truly “prog” (as that term is generally and broadly defined, even by the site), but who were clearly not “mainstream” or simply “rock” bands.

A wide subgenre that encompasses two kinds of bands/artist, that either consist of progressive artist that strayed away from their progressive roots into mainstream rock or were influenced by progressive rock.

Even though the music by these artists is sometimes unrelated it had things in common with prog music in that it was very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Sometimes these artists pioneered other rock genres.

Though most of these artist can't really be considered progressive themselves, their relation to progressive music is not to be underestimated.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:09
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

I think they're prog enough to be here. I mean, they're way more prog than most of those other prog-related bands featured here!!!
 
I'd say - they are not prog, as many of those other prog-related bands featured here, and many of those not added yet as wellLOL.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:15
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by lightbulb_son lightbulb_son wrote:

Wo since when did we add Iron freakin' Maiden!
 

I love those guys with a passion that none of you can comprehend, but prog???

 

7th son is the only album I can even consider prog-related, so how did you guys come up with this?

 

Not that it's a bad thing, I'll be spewing out reviews on about every single album, but I'd love to know the criteria behind this decision.

 

 I think I'll start with powerslave[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
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Sounds like Led Zep could fit easily on this category

Edit: sorry wrong quoteEmbarrassed


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:16
Okay, Since Maiden has been added to PA. 
 
It should be an easy undertaking to add the Grateful Dead to PA, Considering their psychadeklic counterpart Jefferson Airplane is in the Archives!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:18
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Prog Related
Rock and Pop Bands and Artists after 1970 who were not truly “prog” (as that term is generally and broadly defined, even by the site), but who were clearly not “mainstream” or simply “rock” bands.

A wide subgenre that encompasses two kinds of bands/artist, that either consist of progressive artist that strayed away from their progressive roots into mainstream rock or were influenced by progressive rock.

Even though the music by these artists is sometimes unrelated it had things in common with prog music in that it was very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Sometimes these artists pioneered other rock genres.

Though most of these artist can't really be considered progressive themselves, their relation to progressive music is not to be underestimated.




^^what I said before
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 21:06
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One of my favorite bands ever, but not nearly prog enough to be here.
 
Good music doesn't have to be prog.

true true...although its almoust a fact that good music will turn out to be prog, its not always the caseLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 21:29
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by lightbulb_son lightbulb_son wrote:

Wo since when did we add Iron freakin' Maiden!
 

I love those guys with a passion that none of you can comprehend, but prog???

 

7th son is the only album I can even consider prog-related, so how did you guys come up with this?

 

Not that it's a bad thing, I'll be spewing out reviews on about every single album, but I'd love to know the criteria behind this decision.

 

 I think I'll start with powerslave[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
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he is the biggest fan of IM...as you see ..so that's explain allLOLLOLLOLLOL
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:41
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

I think they're prog enough to be here. I mean, they're way more prog than most of those other prog-related bands featured here!!!
 
Phish is probably the only real prog band that's somehow in that category on this site...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:44
now when are Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi and Bach gonna be added to the site??????? they were highly progressive artists! Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:48
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

now when are Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi and Bach gonna be added to the site??????? they were highly progressive artists! Wink
 
They are here! But not directly... Tongue
 
I'm just listening now to an album by Los Canarios (Spain) called "Ciclos" which is based entirely on Vivaldi's 4 Seasons!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:48
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

I think they're prog enough to be here. I mean, they're way more prog than most of those other prog-related bands featured here!!!
 
Phish is probably the only real prog band that's somehow in that category on this site...
 
Scale of Progginess (IMO):
 
1 = Regular old jam stuff. Equivalent of Dave Matthews Band in terms of progginess.
10 = Very prog. Maybe not CTTE, but definitely prog.
 
Junta: 8
Lawn Boy: ???
Rift: ???
A Picture of Nectar: 8
Billy Breathes: 2
Hoist: 1
Story of the Ghost: 4
Farmhouse: 3
Round Room: 4
Undermined: 3
 
 
They're in the right place, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 23:01
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

I think they're prog enough to be here. I mean, they're way more prog than most of those other prog-related bands featured here!!!
 
Phish is probably the only real prog band that's somehow in that category on this site...
 
Scale of Progginess (IMO):
 
1 = Regular old jam stuff. Equivalent of Dave Matthews Band in terms of progginess.
10 = Very prog. Maybe not CTTE, but definitely prog.
 
Junta: 8
Lawn Boy: ???
Rift: ???
A Picture of Nectar: 8
Billy Breathes: 2
Hoist: 1
Story of the Ghost: 4
Farmhouse: 3
Round Room: 4
Undermined: 3
 
 
They're in the right place, IMO.
 
well since the 2 ??? albums are very prog albums as well, as they are 2 of the 4 first albums by the band which were all highly progressive. i would rate them
 
Lawn Boy: 7
Rift: 9
 
Junta and APON i pretty much agree with. Ghost should be bumped up one, but the rest i agree too.
 
after A Picture of Nectar they went to a more jam based style, but then again, YES went commercial after the 70's, Genesis went pop, Pink Floyd went boring, and Gentle Giant went commercial as well. Phish still made great prog songs, at least one per album.
 
point is they started out as a prog band, but lost some of their touch later one, but not completely. theres tons of prog bands with those same characteristics


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2006 at 23:02
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

now when are Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi and Bach gonna be added to the site??????? they were highly progressive artists! Wink
 
They are here! But not directly... Tongue
 
I'm just listening now to an album by Los Canarios (Spain) called "Ciclos" which is based entirely on Vivaldi's 4 Seasons!

Great albumWink
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