Up The Irons!!!
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Topic: Up The Irons!!!
Posted By: lightbulb_son
Subject: Up The Irons!!!
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 18:46
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Wo since when did we add Iron freakin' Maiden!
I love those guys with a passion that none of you can comprehend, but prog???
7th son is the only album I can even consider prog-related, so how did you guys come up with this?
Not that it's a bad thing, I'll be spewing out reviews on about every single album, but I'd love to know the criteria behind this decision.
I think I'll start with powerslave  ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 18:55
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One of my favorite bands ever, but not nearly prog enough to be here.
Good music doesn't have to be prog. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:01
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Used to be huge fan of IM. Have all their albums upto and including Powerslave - after this one I lost interest, as by that time I was already moving towards progressive music in my preferences.
Good band, but got nothing to do with prog.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:02
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I think they're prog enough to be here. I mean, they're way more prog than most of those other prog-related bands featured here!!! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: peter_gabriel
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:05
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and led zep???? |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:06
PROG_RELATED |
lightbulb_son wrote:Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:07
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This should be in the prog-related lounge. Besides, it's stretching it to call Iron Maiden prog-related, IMHO.
------------- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- Evelyn Beatrice Hall |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:09
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Prog Related
Rock and Pop Bands and Artists after 1970 who were not truly “prog” (as that term is generally and broadly defined, even by the site), but who were clearly not “mainstream” or simply “rock” bands. A wide subgenre that encompasses two kinds of bands/artist, that either consist of progressive artist that strayed away from their progressive roots into mainstream rock or were influenced by progressive rock. Even though the music by these artists is sometimes unrelated it had things in common with prog music in that it was very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Sometimes these artists pioneered other rock genres. Though most of these artist can't really be considered progressive themselves, their relation to progressive music is not to be underestimated. |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:09
I'd say - they are not prog, as many of those other prog-related bands featured here, and many of those not added yet as well
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Posted By: Dr. Evil
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:15
Sounds like Led Zep could fit easily on this category Edit: sorry wrong quote  |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:16
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Okay, Since Maiden has been added to PA.
It should be an easy undertaking to add the Grateful Dead to PA, Considering their psychadeklic counterpart Jefferson Airplane is in the Archives!!!!
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Posted By: Dr. Evil
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:18
^^what I said before |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 21:06
true true...although its almoust a fact that good music will turn out to be prog, its not always the case  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Uther
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 21:29
he is the biggest fan of IM...as you see ..so that's explain all
------------- What! can the devil speak true? Macbeth, 1. 3 |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:41
Phish is probably the only real prog band that's somehow in that category on this site... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:44
now when are Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi and Bach gonna be added to the site??????? they were highly progressive artists!  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:48
They are here! But not directly...
 I'm just listening now to an album by Los Canarios (Spain) called "Ciclos" which is based entirely on Vivaldi's 4 Seasons! ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:48
Scale of Progginess (IMO):
1 = Regular old jam stuff. Equivalent of Dave Matthews Band in terms of progginess.
10 = Very prog. Maybe not CTTE, but definitely prog.
Junta: 8
Lawn Boy: ???
Rift: ???
A Picture of Nectar: 8
Billy Breathes: 2
Hoist: 1
Story of the Ghost: 4
Farmhouse: 3
Round Room: 4
Undermined: 3
They're in the right place, IMO. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 23:01
well since the 2 ??? albums are very prog albums as well, as they are 2 of the 4 first albums by the band which were all highly progressive. i would rate them
Lawn Boy: 7
Rift: 9
Junta and APON i pretty much agree with. Ghost should be bumped up one, but the rest i agree too.
after A Picture of Nectar they went to a more jam based style, but then again, YES went commercial after the 70's, Genesis went pop, Pink Floyd went boring, and Gentle Giant went commercial as well. Phish still made great prog songs, at least one per album.
point is they started out as a prog band, but lost some of their touch later one, but not completely. theres tons of prog bands with those same characteristics ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 23:02
Great album  ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 00:33
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hey there's a maiden album missing. Virtual XI. where is that, im gonna wanna review that one eventually ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 06:21
I'd second that... ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: KeyserSoze
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 06:50
Ok, we have Iron Maiden in PA. Great, and now what about Judas Priest and AC/DC? When will this stop? Maybe at Britney Spears and Eminem...  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/mhron/?chartstyle=artists" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 07:05
surely there.... Britney Spears and Eminem are two artists  that may never find their way into the archives... so rest assured------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 08:24
| I must admit I was surprised at their rather sudden inclusion. Although the prog tendencies are pretty obvious, I'm not altogether sure this was an entirely good idea. I wouldn't review the albums here as none of them are prog albums- the same goes for The Beatles- but anyway, they are here, and I don't see the point of getting into a lather about it. There's obvious prog influence at least- there are some bands in prog related that I'm more bothered about than IM... |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 16:03
| Prog-Related for die!!!!1111 |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 16:04
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There are quite enough threads dealing with the additionof Iron Maiden,please discuss in one of those. -------------  |