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    Posted: September 22 2006 at 07:53
... so after more than 15 years of vinyl abstinence ... I'm back!Big smile

Now in order to spark some really nasty comments from my audiophile friends ... let me show you which model I bought:

Dual CS 410

http://dual-reference.com/tables/cs410.htm

Quite an entry level model for 130€ ... but I only have a cheap Harman-Kardon amp and Elac cabinets, so from an audiophile standpoint I'm a hopeless case anyway!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 08:06

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 08:07
LOL don't worry olivier ... *you* won't have to listen to it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 08:19
Don't know much of the quality of different models, but at least there doesn't seem to be anything unneccesary in it, and there is no "cool" visual style included in the model causing extra fees. A vinyl turntable is always better than no vinyl turntable, so Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 08:23
I had been thinking about buying a turntable for a few months ... then today I sold a big part of my collection (>100 CDs, 50 Maxi CDs, 20 DVDs) and thought - hey, there are so many cool out of print vinyls in this used items store, why not buy yourself a cheap player and get some vinyls again!

I'll see how it goes - if I enjoy putting on vinyls at home, I might end up buying a better turntable around christmas. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 08:31
Vinyls are great! (warning: one can get a serious fetish about them) Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 08:41
^ I must admit that they definitely look way better than any CD. I think I'll buy some new vinyls (Opeth, Porcupine Tree) and many many used ones. I still have 100€ left over from the sale I mentioned in the previous post. The albums cost 4€ on average, so I can buy more than 20 albums!Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 09:08
^ Start checking out flea markets as you have time, you can find real gems with ½-1€!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 09:15
Of course with vinyls there's a greater risk involved in used items ... I guess that most really cheap vinyls will be scratched or damaged.

For the time being I'll stick to my favorite 2nd hand music store - it's the biggest in my town, and it has relations to stores in 3 other towns and every 2-3 weeks they swap all the items.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 09:44
    Just take very good care of the stylus. Those can get pretty expensive to replace. If you can find a replacement at all. You definitely don't want to play really beat up albums on it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 09:47
^ thats an advantage of this cheap player - the stylus is quite inexpensive (20€) and widely available. And I'll definitely not buy really worn albums ... I *hate* scratches! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:04
I have a record player in the UK with no stylus. They stopped selling them in WH Smith.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:12
    


...2000 lightyears further....


Arm RB 300



Deck Planar 3



Dynavector moving coil






    

Edited by oliverstoned - September 22 2006 at 10:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:14
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

don't worry olivier ... *you* won't have to listen to it!

    

I want to! Please invite me!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Of course with vinyls there's a greater risk involved in used items ... I guess that most really cheap vinyls will be scratched or damaged.
 
They may have dust which can be washed away, and some scratches which may snap, but they work usually better than used CD's, I'll guarrantee that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:17
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

 
Deck Planar 3

 

 
I can't say anything about the technical qualities of that player, but I wouldn't want such candybar to my house! Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:18
   


MAIN TIPS FOR KEEPING AND CLEANING VYNILS

First, a tool to use each time you play your record, is the felt brush, like the one pictured below. It's much better than the cloth cause it doesn't loose it hairs. This kind of brush removes both dust and static electricity.
There's no specific brand, but the one provided with the "Metanac" (see further, and picture below) is good.


TO CLEAN THE VYNILS:

There are many products. The "Metanac" is a good and efficient product that you simply apply directly on the record with the felt brush.

Another way is to do his own cleaning liquid, proceeding as follow:

-1/3 90°c alcohol
-2/3 distilled water
-A few drops of neutral soap (without detergent, very important).

You have to wash your records with that liquid, using a soft matter to softly rub, or throwing the liquid on the vynil using a kind of water gun. Then there's the drying issue, which is to find a way to remove water without adding hairs by rubbing with a cloth.


Then, for the cartridge keeping, there are two things:

-Cartridge demagnetizer (any brand, make a search on the net). You have to do it from times to times.

-Cartidge stylus cleaner liquid (any brand, make a search on the net). You have to do it from times to times.


Here are the main products to start, considering that there are many products, solutions for it.
There are even sophisticated and expensive record cleaner machines.


Metanac record cleaning product with its felt brush:


    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:19
^ tomorrow we'll see ... if I win the lottery I promise I will buy an audiophile turntable.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:19
Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

  Deck Planar 3  

 

I can't say anything about the technical qualities of that player, but I wouldn't want such candybar to my house!


I agree with you!

Fortunatly, it's available in a wide colour range:



    




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:20
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ tomorrow we'll see ... if I win the lottery I promise I will buy an audiophile turntable.

    

Sell back your damn PC!
    

Edited by oliverstoned - September 22 2006 at 10:20
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