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salmacis 
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 Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:57 |
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Oh lord. I thought we'd moved on from the 'pompous/pretentious' school of journalism. Obviously there are still some people who can't get used to music that isn't amateurish or 2 dimensional. I think that all that really needs to be said is that prog has endured, whilst punk seems not to have in some respects. Compare the amount of first division prog bands that are still going or only split up not so long ago to the amount of first division punk acts that are still going and I think that battle's won. Also, the amount of new-ish affiliates of prog- prog metal, neo prog etc.- to the 'stick in the mud', non evolving punk genre. Try as the critics might, they can't kill off prog and deep down, I think they know it. And this accounts for some of the bitter, sour comments, I feel.
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robertplantowns
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 13:21 |
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WOW, I think what all of you have failed to notice is that this is supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek article, as most of the articles on the Onion are. This writer obviously listens to some prog, how else would he know about the new moog that was made, or Wakeman's silver cape and King Arthur on Ice? He's clearly a prog fan who's trying to write an article to get some laughs, but apparently this has flown over all your heads. Anyways, who can't admit that children's choirs, chapman sticks, those strapped-on keyboards and Ywingie Malmsteen ARE pretentious? THEY ARE! It's ok for prog fans to admit that there are some pretentious aspects to the genre as a whole. If we didn't appreciate such pretentiousness, we wouldn't find so much hilarity in our much beloved Spinal Tap! You guys need to stop taking such things seriously, and learn how to laugh! Anyways that was a funny article and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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johnobvious
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 14:05 |
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robertplant, I see your point about tongue in cheek but this isn't a true Onion article but an AV club article, so while it is somewhat tongue in cheek, it isn't a full blown Onion satirical piece. The av club is more straight ahead than the Onion. I'm sure the author believes what he writes and is trying to be humorous about it as opposed to just making stuff up for humor's sake.
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Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
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Barla
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 15:48 |
 Funny article !! But where is the Seven String Bass ?? 
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tuxon
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 15:53 |
Love the article, makes for a great read, and I totally agreed on all he wrote.
long live pretentious instruments, for they colour my day with sounds
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Peter
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 17:06 |
 How about this, then:
 The crumhorn can play around corners! Get bent!
Ooh! Someone's compensating for something, methinks!
Eeeeeeeeeeee-coli!
Edited by Peter Rideout - September 20 2006 at 17:09
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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tuxon
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 17:11 |
Ah the avalancheflute, thought they used dynamite these days, good to see they keep the tradition alive.
btw don't understand the ecoli referene
Edited by tuxon - September 20 2006 at 17:14
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Peter
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 17:22 |
 tuxon wrote:
Ah the avalancheflute, thought they used dynamite these days, good to see they keep the tradition alive.
btw don't understand the ecoli referene |
You know -- the TV ad for "Ricola" cough drops: there's alpine horns, and a guy in lederhosen yelling "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii -- colaaaa!"
I always yelled "eeeee-coliiii" (a nasty bug - food poisoning) when it came on. 
Now, fiddle me this:
Edited by Peter Rideout - September 20 2006 at 17:23
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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reality
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 17:35 |
This is a totaly serious article with some very fine points. I think that people do not realize that pretentious is not a good thing. It is not talent but show as a guise of talent. It is "if I am flashy enough mabye they will not realize that I have no substance".
I agree with the writer as he showed proper uses and the pretentious improper uses of these instraments. An example would be the grand piano, he compared the proper use of Keith Jarrett to the pretentious new age losers.
Read the article for the rest of the examples but it does show the "hey look at me I am a rockstar" instraments that are not pretentious in themselves but are nausiatingly putrid when used improperly.
Oh ya, if you did not grow up with the Bagpipes in your culture, do not use them you just look silly! Leave that to those who Know what the instrament is all about (as before mentioned: Runrig, Wolfstone Etc. would be proper use of the bagpipes.)
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el böthy
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 18:07 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I liked the article ... it's meant to be ironic, but inadvertantly he spared most prog bands: He forgot #11:
The Mellotron
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For once I agree with you Mike.
And by the way, why is a picture of Sambora there???
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mrgd
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Posted: September 21 2006 at 03:25 |
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What, no mention of the bed flute or the bum trumpet!
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd
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Jim Garten
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Posted: September 21 2006 at 03:49 |
mrgd wrote:
What, no mention of the bed flute or the bum trumpet! |
Or, indeed the pink oboe or porcelain parpophone (it's just about possible to play both at the same time, but not recommended)
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Jim Garten
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Posted: September 21 2006 at 03:56 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
The crumhorn can play around corners! Get bent
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Posted: September 21 2006 at 04:17 |
Barla wrote:
Funny article !! But where is the Seven String Bass ?? |
or the Eight string bass?? or the NINE string guitar?? but seriously.. they exist
ill agree, the Keytar is one of the dumbest instruments and the players using them look like fools
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darkshade
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Posted: September 21 2006 at 04:19 |
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i think the tuba is the most pretentious instrument. why? i can play tuba
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darkshade
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Posted: September 21 2006 at 04:21 |
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wow what great scenary
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mrgd
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Posted: September 22 2006 at 03:17 |
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The furry harmonica is, of course, a challenge for any self-respecting embouchure , all pretentions aside!
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd
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Intruder
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Posted: September 22 2006 at 03:43 |
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Man, Jon Anderson's voice didn't get a mention?
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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The Whistler
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Posted: September 22 2006 at 03:48 |
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Fool! There is none more pretentious upon the flute as Ian! Who's this James New-town jerk?
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