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glass house
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:56 |
About Nude, had a listening session with my Dad once, we both loved it. A great band. Stationary Traveller is a good album, Melomaniac!!
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 12:58 |
^ Thanks for the info! Another band I might end up owning the complete discography...
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 13:01 |
Camel is one of the few classic symphonic rock bands I where I witnessed many women on their concerts I use to describe their albums (until Stationary Traveller) as 'warm bath symphonic rock', it sounds so melodic, harmonic and moving and you can feel the emotion, especially when Andy Latimer delivers another compelling guitar solo. I have seen Camel many times between 1981 and now: the concerts were always sold out, the atmosphere was always great and Camel never disappointed so perhaps Second Division but being in the Premier League doesn't mean you play attractive .. I tend to say, in contrary ...
Edited by erik neuteboom - September 20 2006 at 13:02
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salmacis
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 13:03 |
'Stationary Traveller' is a good album for sure, but to these ears it sounds rather too much like the Alan Parsons Project at times. The best bits are the instrumental sections, which sound the most like the Camel of old, ironically enough.
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glass house
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 13:03 |
Erik, did you see them in Rotterdam around 82/83? Can't remember the year. Was in the Doelen.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 13:08 |
I have seen the Nude tour in 1981 in The Hague, one of their best
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 13:44 |
Melomaniac wrote:
Tony Fisher wrote:
I have:
Camel 4* Mirage 5* Snow Goose 5*+ Moonmadness 5*+ Rain Dances 4* Breathless 3* I Can See Your House From Here 3* Nude 5* The Single Factor 3* Stationary Traveller 4* A Live Record 5*+ Pressure Points 4*
on vinyl and
Rajaz 5* A Nod and A Wink 4*
on CD
This band are Premier League without doubt; in fact, my favourite band. Certif1ied has hit the nail on the head as to why some rubbish them: they're not pretentious. Exactly the same reason some rubbish my second favourite band, Mostly Autumn, in fact.
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I have : Mirage Snow Goose Moonmadness
Which do you suggest I buy next ?
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Actually, I'd get their "A Live Record" next. Once you've heard them live, you can't be in any doubt as to their talent. Then try Nude, which is another brilliant concept album loosely based on the life of Lieutenant Hiroo Onoda (hence Nude), a Japanese soldier who fought on for 28 years after 1945. It's the best album from their 80s output. Enjoy them!
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 15:17 |
^ Thanks Tony! For the live material, I heard the bonus tracks on the rereleases, and I don't doubt!!!
Nude it will be! Read a few reviews on PA, and I want to hear it!
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Cluster One
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 15:47 |
Just a bit of trivia here, but pertinent I think, if only to show you how well thought-of CAMEL is...
Before starting his current solo Dark Side tour Roger Waters looked for
a lead guitarist of sufficient stature and ability to play Gilmour's
parts in his many Floyd tunes. He met with Andy Lattimer, because not
only was he a fan of Camel (well as much of a fan as WATERS could be of
anything I shoud say), but he knew Andy could fill-in without skipping
a beat. Andy's voice unfortunately was incompatible with many of the
high-register Gilmour vocals and so both Lattimer and Waters realized
disappointingly that Andy was not well-suited.
Dave Kilminster (brother of Lemmy) filled the role of lead guitarist for this tour.
Just an aside. Yes I love Camel (Snow Goose my fave), and yes I will be seeing Roger Waters tomorrow night in Montreal
Edited by Cluster One - September 20 2006 at 15:49
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Marmalade...I like marmalade.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 15:49 |
Cluster One wrote:
Just a bit of trivia here, but pertinent I think, if only to show you how well thought-of CAMEL is...
Before starting his current solo Dark Side tour Roger Waters looked for a lead guitarist of sufficient stature and ability to play Gilmour's parts in his many Floyd tunes. He met with Andy Lattimer, because not only was he a fan of Camel (well as much of a fan as WATERS could be of anything I shoud say), but he knew Andy could fill-in without skipping a beat. Andy's voice unfortunately was incompatible with many of the high-register Gilmour vocals and so both Lattimer and Waters realized disappointly that Andy was not well-suited.
Dave Kilminster (brother of Lemmy) filled the role of lead guitarist for this tour.
Just as aside. Yes I love Camel (Snow Goose my fave), and yes I will be seeing Roger Waters tomorrow night in Montreal
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Latimer playing some Floyd? That would have been amazing!!!
Bell Center tomorrow night???
Going to miss it!
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Camel_APPeal
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 16:29 |
Melomaniac wrote:
I have : Mirage Snow Goose Moonmadness
Which do you suggest I buy next ?
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OK, you can get Nude as you're already planning to, but you may also enjoy Rajaz or Nod and a Wink.
Their 80's stuff might be weaker than their earlier and later work, but I think it's better than most of the 80's works of other prog greats!
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"After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't"
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 16:34 |
Camel_APPeal wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
I have : Mirage Snow Goose Moonmadness
Which do you suggest I buy next ?
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OK, you can get Nude as you're already planning to, but you may also enjoy Rajaz or Nod and a Wink.
Their 80's stuff might be weaker than their earlier and later work, but I think it's better than most of the 80's works of other prog greats!
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Listened to one song from both Rajaz and Nod & a Wink, and I will get both for sure, after Nude.
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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NotAProghead
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 18:14 |
darkshade wrote:
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Definitely yes, if you like its predecessors, "Dust And Dreams", "Harbour of Tears" and "Rajaz".
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Nanook
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 21:29 |
As I type I'm listening to Harbour of Tears. Good stuff, and I've never heard a note of it on the radio. Ever. What a shame that is.
I stumbled across Camel back in 2003 when I picked up a copy of Progression magazine. Then I came across this site, and was exposed to more of their music. I'm slowly amassing their entire discography.
It's too bad I didn't discover them earlier, but better late than never. Great band, and very underrated.
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Zac M
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 21:34 |
Camel are definitely one of my favorite classic Prog bands. A Live Record is a masterpiece, just check out my review for it. The performance of The Snow Goose is breathtaking and so emotional.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
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The Wizard
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 21:35 |
Sometimes they can be boring, but otherwise they're cool.
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darkshade
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 21:39 |
listening to the debut, i realize the band had a great deal of influence on early metal (NWOBHM moreso) and power metal. a lot of the first album reminds me of the first Maiden album.
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BaldJean
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 21:48 |
I used to like them, but they didn't stand the test of time with me. today they simply bore me. in lack of a better term it is probably because they are too "harmless"
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Tenth Chaffinch
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 23:37 |
I don't think I've ever been bored by Camel. I can listen to Moonmadness, The Snow Goose, or Rain Dances for days on end and not get tired. Not to mention that their discography goes on for decades without releasing (in my opinion) a single truly weak album. Even the later releases (Rajaz and Dust and Dreams being my personal favorties) stand just as strong as their most popular early albums.
Edited by Tenth Chaffinch - September 20 2006 at 23:40
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valravennz
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 23:44 |
I think Camel's music is great but I have to be in a really laid back mood to listen to it. Bald Jean describes it as "harmless". Not wrong there - I prefer my music with a little more sonic resonance.
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