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superprog
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 00:33 |
Or how about modern bands/releases that have IMO imbued the spirit of Kraut in all its wonderous forms?
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Supersilent - 6
Kriedler
To Roccoco Rot
Tone Rec
Salvatore
Acid Mothers Temple
Workshop
Ma Cherie For Painting
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Bilek
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 02:58 |
Yukorin wrote:
Oliver. Agitation Free died in France with 'Last' as you know. Don't touch it !
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oh please. so you're simply discarding " At the Cliffs of River Rhine"?!? what about the magnificent " Fragments" album?!??!!?? (shame on you, oliverstoned! you rated both albums 4 stars, and you didn't say anything so far )
many bands release super posthumous albums (like Mahavishnu's Trident sessions, and TD's concert recordings which pop up every now and then... OK, I know TD isn't dead, but their "magic" trio Froese/Franke/Bauman is...) and many times these are great.
I'd agree about The Other Sides, though. I wouldn't rate it more than 3 stars (and that's just because the decency of their music, albeit in straightforward jazz direction)
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 03:07 |
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Aha: someone mentioned the name of Gunter Schickert...is his solo album Uberrfallig (on the SKY label, circa 1976 at a guess: my vinyl is stored under the stairs at the moment) rare enough to plug?
Can't say anything about him since all the text on the cover is scrawled in illegible German, but Klaus Schulze gets a namecheck. The music is in a Schulze/ Tangerine Dream format, but with guitars and drums (and lots of echo effects) instead of sequencers. Very cool stuff.
Once downloaded a song with a very Krautrocky / early Hawkwind sound by a more current band German band calling itself Bluesausageinfant (must have been an umlaut in there somewhere). Wouldln't mind hearing more of them... |
I also heard of Günther Schickert's name in AMG, while searching for some info about Achim Reichel (nevertheless, progarchives provided more info about AR afterwards )
Apart from the aforementioned Klaus Schulze, AMG places Schickert in the same vein with Achim Reichel and Manuel Göttsching. The similarity between these two names (at least in terms of their guitar style) is obvious. Not to mention Schulze / TD similarity: apart from Schulze's contributions to both Göttsching's and TD's music, all these four names share the same hypnotic style.
in conclusion, Schickert's music seems to be in typical Krautrock vein (alas, I never had a chance to listen any of his stuff!) so will anyone (who has enough info) land a hand to get him in the archives? According to AMG, his discography isn't bulky (I saw only a handful of albums) so it will not be a hard work
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 03:52 |
OK, one more!
I was thinking of creating a thread about krautrock myself, so Yukorin saved me a lot of trouble
please tell me all the aspects of Krautrock: (and please ignore my signature for the time being! )
- The very first band I recognised as Krautrock was Can (two years ago it was progarchives' sample kraut band... I know tangerine dream before, but I hadn't realised it was krautrock then...) so I expected Krautrock to be in this band's style (let me tell you the albums I first heard: Ege Bamyasi, Peel Sessions and Anthology)
- After getting used to Can, I searched for other similar bands and bumped into Ash Ra Tempel (only with Schwingungen then) and Amon Düül II (yeti)... The bands might have been included in Space Rock, as well...
- Guru Guru has been a surprise, because I thought it to be a jazz-rock band! (I had only heard Guru Guru live by then)
After getting acquainted with other jazzy kraut bands (Embryo, Kraan...) I understood that thare had been a jazzy side of Krautrock...
- most of Kraut is understood to be a kind of German spacerock... do you think it's true ??? (I personally don't, because few of, say, Can's output is spacy)
- not to mention the "motorik" beat featured by NEU!, and afterwards Harmonia...
- coming back to early kraut: many greats are not considered krautrock because they shifted their style in time... Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, even Klaus Shulze...
- and some are rather classified as symphonic: Wallenstein, Grobschnitt (this was once in kraut in PA) Jane (this is art-rock), Sahara etc.
are these also Krautrock, or what?
and more importantly, what makes Krautrock Krautrock? (apart from being German, btw, I think - and some people agree - some swiss bands are also Kraut: Brainticket, Krokodil, anyone?)
tell me your opinions!
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Yukorin
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 05:28 |
Thanks to everyone for the recommendations ! Plenty to explore
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Yukorin
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 05:50 |
Certain bands just seem to plop into the Krautrock soup. Be they spacerock, minimal, folk, avant-garde or crutons.
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 09:43 |
Yukorin wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the recommendations ! Plenty to explore
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Hi! Did you receive my PM?
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 11:17 |
Have you ever heard of a fairly new English band : Electric Orange?
Their CD Cyberdelic is all Krautrock influenced. Very Good.
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My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head.
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 11:44 |
There is an excellent French Krautrock band - Lard Free.
Edited by MattiR - September 05 2006 at 11:45
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 12:24 |
MattiR wrote:
There is an excellent French Krautrock band - Lard Free.
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I have only heard their first album so far. Excellent stuff indeed.
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 15:00 |
Yuk
I'm not sure if you have heard any of these but they could be to you liking and are of the harder to find spieces.
- Metabolismus
- Zweistien
- Cozmic Corridors
- Cosmic Eye
- Ibliss
- Seesselberg (a synth excursion)
I know well of Cozmic Corridor Yukorin, but would you have to own any records from these bands. I would be very interested if you do. They all span from the infamous Pyramid label.
Pyramid
The Nazgul
Temple
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 15:02 |
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 19:37 |
Yukorin wrote:
Thanks mccrank ! I have hundreds of German LP's so I'm really after the
obscure. The more obscure the better. Also any bizarre krautrock
stories !
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Obscure prog from Germany:
Code III The Nazgül
Very good.!
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The Beatles
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Yukorin
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 20:13 |
Love Code III 'Planet of Man' ! Klaus Schultze on the kit too !
Has she had a cd reissue ?
Will check The Nazgul. Had a listen to a couple of Pyramid compilations and didn't think too much of them at the time.
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 20:32 |
Joren wrote:
Yukorin wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the recommendations ! Plenty to explore
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Hi! Did you receive my PM?
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Ahem ... Yukorin? I was trying to help, you know.
Edited by Joren - September 05 2006 at 20:33
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Apsalar
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 20:44 |
Yukorin wrote:
Love Code III 'Planet of Man' ! Klaus Schultze on the kit too !
Has she had a cd reissue ?
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*nods* she sure has; on Won-Sin Records in 2001. I have been looking at
getting myself a copy sometime in the not to distance future.
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 22:33 |
You won't be disappointed BV ! It's one helluva strange record
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Yukorin
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 13:35 |
Here she is...
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 13:37 |
...on the gorgeously designed Acustic Delta label
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Joren
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 14:03 |
Reminds me of the Brain label:
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