Krautrock
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Topic: Krautrock
Posted By: Yukorin
Subject: Krautrock
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 08:23
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Have to admit I have quite an extensive German LP collection but I have to have more ! Always need more ! Any recommendations or rarities please share here ! ('tho I'm up to speed with K. Wunderlich and J. Last and Haino thanks...) Please use this thread to talk all things German progressive and happening. Anecdotes, tales of woe, expensive mishaps, random vacations in Munich etc. Any genre is more than welcome but the closer to the spirit of Krautrock the better. PS: Don't mention the coleslaw ------------- 
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Posted By: mccrank_yeahrig
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:01
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If you give us the bands you know it'll be easier for us!. Anyway I recommend you Brainstorm, Embryo, Xhol Caravan, Amon Düll (I & II), Popol Vuh, Agitation Free.... If you want more contact me ;-) |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:13
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Thanks mccrank ! I have hundreds of German LP's so I'm really after the obscure. The more obscure the better. Also any bizarre krautrock stories ! -------------
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Posted By: mccrank_yeahrig
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:19
| I do not know if these are as obscure as you want (maybe Xhol Caravan is the obscurest, their first album is in 1967), but if you want more i can tell you, 'cause I have and example cd from "garden of the lights" (a company record that has been releasing odd material from germany for 4 years more or less) that may have some groups that interests you. |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:25
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'Garden of Delights' ? Some great releases from them ! Went drinking with the label boss in London at a Neu! event (they didn't turn up) with a few friends a few years ago and have never met a more pretentious person in my life ! Love her ! -------------
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:34
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Do you know "The other sides of Agitation free" ('75).
I know it's not real Ag free anymore and i'm interested to know more about. |
Posted By: mccrank_yeahrig
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:40
This Album was realeased in 1999, but the recordings are from 1974-1975, and it only has two of the original members of the band (Michel Gunter / bass, keyboards and Lutz Ulbrich / guitar, keyboards). If you can listen it, but i think it's not the same than the other agitation free's albums. I hope it helps you  |
oliverstoned wrote:Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:45
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I know that it's in a more jazzrock vein with saxo and vocals. I think that must be cheesy. Besides that, Ag free is a major band. |
Posted By: mccrank_yeahrig
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:52
Just give it a try, maybe you would like it. It's not my AF album but I don't hate it neither. |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:59
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Oliver. Agitation Free died in France with 'Last' as you know. Don't touch it ! By the way is 'Barclay' still around ? Got a few classic France Gall 7 inches (45 tours) on that sonofabitch ! Oh an' Francoise Hardy and a host of French beauties..! Label boss must be Mr. Stud -------------
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 10:45
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Check out Aera - Humanum est. It's a very nice jazzy record. I quite enjoy it, but it's been a while since I've heard it though.
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 10:52
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i feel like some of the very obscure has become quite available as of late
like German Oak's s/t and Necronomicon's Tips Zum SSdkjgjafakd
Aaron
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 11:13
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Couldn't do much better than correspond with the experts at Ultima Thule, the Freeman brothers - check their website for what Krautrock is available there on CD and secondhands
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ultimathule-audion/ - http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ultimathule-audion/
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 11:23
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Thanks Dick ! Love Steve an' Alan in Leicester (who whudda thunk it) ? Recommended to all: http://mywec.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/shop.html - http://mywec.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/shop.html Let's Shop ! -------------
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Posted By: Agemo
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 11:24
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I like the debut album from Nine Days Wonder. It is not your typical krautrock (more Zappa-like) but a great album by a German band ------------- Dona Nobis Pacem |
Posted By: samhob
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:28
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Well i have heard of krautrock rarity albums that i cant find anywhere, internet or shop store :) Example: GAM __________________________________________________________________________ You mlaybe have this one : DOM -Edge Of time (Awesome psychedelic acoustic rock very great) _________________ Dom |
Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:15
German Oak is wonderful! |
Posted By: Zweck
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 16:09
| Not very obscure, nor very german, but absolutely worth checking if one's into krautrockery: Motorpsycho. A wonderfully wierd Norwegian band whose live album "Roadworks Vol. 2: The MtorSource Massacre" is especially remarkable. Also interesting are "Timothy's Monster" and "Trust Us". |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 18:00
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Add Motorpsycho's "Demon Box" You probably know all the krautrock in know already. Have you ever checked out this page? http://8daysinapril.blogspot.com/ - 8 Days in April ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 22:07
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Aha: someone mentioned the name of Gunter Schickert...is his solo album Uberrfallig (on the SKY label, circa 1976 at a guess: my vinyl is stored under the stairs at the moment) rare enough to plug? Can't say anything about him since all the text on the cover is scrawled in illegible German, but Klaus Schulze gets a namecheck. The music is in a Schulze/ Tangerine Dream format, but with guitars and drums (and lots of echo effects) instead of sequencers. Very cool stuff. Once downloaded a song with a very Krautrocky / early Hawkwind sound by a more current band German band calling itself Bluesausageinfant (must have been an umlaut in there somewhere). Wouldln't mind hearing more of them... |
Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 00:33
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Or how about modern bands/releases that have IMO imbued the spirit of Kraut in all its wonderous forms? Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Supersilent - 6
Kriedler
To Roccoco Rot
Tone Rec
Salvatore
Acid Mothers Temple
Workshop
Ma Cherie For Painting
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 02:58
oh please. so you're simply discarding "At the Cliffs of River Rhine"?!? what about the magnificent "Fragments" album?!??!!?? (shame on you, oliverstoned! you rated both albums 4 stars, and you didn't say anything so far
 )many bands release super posthumous albums (like Mahavishnu's Trident sessions, and TD's concert recordings which pop up every now and then... OK, I know TD isn't dead, but their "magic" trio Froese/Franke/Bauman is...) and many times these are great.
I'd agree about The Other Sides, though. I wouldn't rate it more than 3 stars (and that's just because the decency of their music, albeit in straightforward jazz direction) ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 03:07
I also heard of Günther Schickert's name in AMG, while searching for some info about Achim Reichel (nevertheless, progarchives provided more info about AR afterwards
 )Apart from the aforementioned Klaus Schulze, AMG places Schickert in the same vein with Achim Reichel and Manuel Göttsching. The similarity between these two names (at least in terms of their guitar style) is obvious. Not to mention Schulze / TD similarity: apart from Schulze's contributions to both Göttsching's and TD's music, all these four names share the same hypnotic style.
in conclusion, Schickert's music seems to be in typical Krautrock vein (alas, I never had a chance to listen any of his stuff!) so will anyone (who has enough info) land a hand to get him in the archives? According to AMG, his discography isn't bulky (I saw only a handful of albums) so it will not be a hard work ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 03:52
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OK, one more!
I was thinking of creating a thread about krautrock myself, so Yukorin saved me a lot of trouble
please tell me all the aspects of Krautrock: (and please ignore my signature for the time being!
)- The very first band I recognised as Krautrock was Can (two years ago it was progarchives' sample kraut band... I know tangerine dream before, but I hadn't realised it was krautrock then...) so I expected Krautrock to be in this band's style (let me tell you the albums I first heard: Ege Bamyasi, Peel Sessions and Anthology)
- After getting used to Can, I searched for other similar bands and bumped into Ash Ra Tempel (only with Schwingungen then) and Amon Düül II (yeti)... The bands might have been included in Space Rock, as well...
- Guru Guru has been a surprise, because I thought it to be a jazz-rock band! (I had only heard Guru Guru live by then)
After getting acquainted with other jazzy kraut bands (Embryo, Kraan...) I understood that thare had been a jazzy side of Krautrock...
- most of Kraut is understood to be a kind of German spacerock... do you think it's true ??? (I personally don't, because few of, say, Can's output is spacy)
- not to mention the "motorik" beat featured by NEU!, and afterwards Harmonia...
- coming back to early kraut: many greats are not considered krautrock because they shifted their style in time... Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, even Klaus Shulze...
- and some are rather classified as symphonic: Wallenstein, Grobschnitt (this was once in kraut in PA) Jane (this is art-rock), Sahara etc.
are these also Krautrock, or what?
and more importantly, what makes Krautrock Krautrock? (apart from being German, btw, I think - and some people agree - some swiss bands are also Kraut: Brainticket, Krokodil, anyone?)
tell me your opinions! ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 05:28
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Thanks to everyone for the recommendations ! Plenty to explore -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 05:50
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Certain bands just seem to plop into the Krautrock soup. Be they spacerock, minimal, folk, avant-garde or crutons. -------------
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 09:43
Hi! Did you receive my PM? |
Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 11:17
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Have you ever heard of a fairly new English band : Electric Orange?
Their CD Cyberdelic is all Krautrock influenced. Very Good.
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 11:44
| There is an excellent French Krautrock band - Lard Free. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 12:24
I have only heard their first album so far. Excellent stuff indeed.  |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 15:00
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Yuk
I'm not sure if you have heard any of these but they could be to you liking and are of the harder to find spieces.
- Metabolismus
- Zweistien
- Cozmic Corridors
- Cosmic Eye
- Ibliss
- Seesselberg (a synth excursion)
I know well of Cozmic Corridor Yukorin, but would you have to own any records from these bands. I would be very interested if you do. They all span from the infamous Pyramid label.
Pyramid
The Nazgul
Temple
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 15:02
 They are phenomenal, probably my favorite Prog band from France. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 19:37
Obscure prog from Germany: Code III The Nazgül Very good.! -------------  |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 20:13
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Love Code III 'Planet of Man' ! Klaus Schultze on the kit too !
Has she had a cd reissue ?
Will check The Nazgul. Had a listen to a couple of Pyramid compilations and didn't think too much of them at the time.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 20:32
Ahem  ... Yukorin?I was trying to help, you know.  |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 20:44
*nods* she sure has; on Won-Sin Records in 2001. I have been looking at getting myself a copy sometime in the not to distance future. |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 22:33
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You won't be disappointed BV ! It's one helluva strange record -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 13:35
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Here she is...  -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 13:37
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...on the gorgeously designed Acustic Delta label  -------------
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 14:03
Reminds me of the Brain label: |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 14:10
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Thanks Joren ! Love those old German labels ! Was it Spieglieg (sp) with the fried egg ? -------------
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 14:13
| Spieglieg? Who's that? |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 14:28
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Whoever had the fried egg ! Eulenspygel were on it. Maybe -------------
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 14:57
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 15:03
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Me spellings off ! Spiegelei ! http://www.electric-orange.com/kraut/dg2.htm - http://www.electric-orange.com/kraut/dg2.htm Definately some fried eggs here -------------
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 16:38
"Tips Zum Selbstmord" is a great album, but as I noted in my review, probably not worth the £1,500 price tag... The re-issue (if you can find one) is a much better buy - I would say it's essential to any fan of Krautrock. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 11:52
Ah now I understand. A few familiar names there indeed. I'm not much of a Krauthead though. I enjoy quite a few Krautrock groups, but I'm far from an expert... |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 12:12
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Listening to Sand's 'Golem' for the 100th time now an' I still can't make me mind up about it. Talk about a slow burner... -------------
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 19:56
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Just brought "Code III" yesterday while I was down at the local store.
I have already put it on for a couple of spins and this is some great
material. Kraut just how I like it. Also here is some interesting reading about those bands involved with Gardens of Delights http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue8/god01.html - http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue8/god01.html I'm yet to hear Sand's 'Golem' But definately intend to, you unsure repsonse has intreged me. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 21:49
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I won't mention the whole list of Kraut I have and like, but I will mention one (apologies if it has been mentioned here).
I refer to http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2015 - BETWEEN - And The Waters Opened.
Reviews and sources:
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=57529 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=57529
http://www.geocities.com/krautrockgroup/Between.html - http://www.geocities.com/krautrockgroup/Between.html
From: The Crack in the Cosmic Egg:
Between A most unusual and unique group, the Munich combo Between (formed in 1970 as Between The Chairs) were the brainchild of musical theorist and experimentalist Peter Michael Hamel. As such, Between drew together a wide range of international musicians into a musical and cultural melting pot. Between were aptly in between everything, both musically and culturally. Featuring avant-garde tendencies within a music that blended the medieval, the ancient and the futuristic, with jazz and rock musics, the initial results on their debut EINSTEIG were most inspiring. Arguably a step on from The Third Ear Band (sans the mantric rhythms) Between were invention in the extreme, in a music that was melodic yet challenging. Not surprising for a band that featured such acclaimed musicians as James Galway, Roberto Détrée and Robert Eliscu. There are some extraordinary cosmic excursions here too, all amounting to a revolutionary mixture of psychedelic and world musics. EINSTEIG is still as remarkable and fresh now as when it was created. Further albums developed the Between sound on an increasingly ethnic level AND THE WATERS OPENED with its atmospheric dronings from Détrée's moto-cello is probably Between's most innovative and fascinating, it's an album that oozes beauty and mystery. It's almost chilling! DHARANA and CONTEMPLATION were the most ambitious on a cross-cultural level, and were much more serious in their attitude. Both of these combined Indian and African musics into a larger more symphonic sound, notably so the lengthy excursions that encompassed the second side of each. Finally, with SILENCE BEYOND TIME Between moved both closer to esoteric ECM jazz realms, notably because of Roger Jannotta's presence and other influences, and also moved closer to traditional ethnic musics. It's a great shame that Between split after this. Peter Michael Hamel has been quite prolific since, going on to work solo in systemic/new-age music and also serious avant-garde. Also, Roberto Détrée has continued his work with novel instrument creations. During Between's history Peter Michael Hamel also worked with Agitation Free, Bob Eliscu worked on and off with Popol Vuh in tandem with Between, and Cotch Black was also in the rock group Sinto, and the jazz/percussion ensemble Niagara. An oddity in Between's discography is the album HESSE BETWEEN MUSIC, which wasn't really a Between album as such, but a radio-play project of one Gerd Westphal with Between and guests. Its message is lost to non-German ears, and musically only some of it is real Between. Approach with caution! Roberto Détrée (guitar, moto-cello), Jimmy J. Galway (flute), Bob Eliscu (oboe, flute, crumhorn, voice), Cottrell Black (tympani, congas, drums), Ulrich Stranz (viola), Peter Michael Hamel (organ, piano) EINSTEIG AND THE WATERS OPENED DHARANA HESSE BETWEEN MUSIC (6/74) CONTEMPLATION STILL ÜBER DER ZEIT/SILENCE BEYOND TIME (1979) ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 01:33
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Black Velvet wrote:
"Just brought "Code III" yesterday while I was down at the local store. I have already put it on for a couple of spins and this is some great material. Kraut just how I like it."
I'd like to visit yr local store too!!!!!! wow..........what a locale u must live in hehehehe
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 03:46
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I was thinkin' that meself SuperP..! Lucky ol' Black Velvet heh ! -------------
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 04:30
Ah, yes, I am very lucky to have them at hand when ever needs be. At
the moment I am waiting in anticipation, as they are soon to be
stocking the newly remastered copies of the first two Kluster
albums, yummy . I'm thinking they are not going to be hanging
around for too long 
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 04:43
i hope you mean the albums.............
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 14:36
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Well, I have a lot of European stuff from the seventies not all of it
Kraut Rock but the obscure stuff is not necassarily good. I don`t
really know what your looking for but here`s a brief list of some of
the rarer stuff I have in my collection on vinyl ( I`m still living in
the dark ages ) Pell Mell Germany Geronimo Germany Ruphus Norway Floh de Cologne Germany Eiliff Germany Midnight Sun Denmark Edgar Allan Poe Italy A couple of bands from Iceland and Greenland that I`ll have to search for which are hiding in my collection Scorpio Hungary These are only the ones I can come up with right now as I am not at home. ------------- |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 19:44
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Great list VB ! Agree with you that some are obscure for a reason. Any krautrock on 8-track ? ! A friend of mine had a couple of Amon Duul 2 an' Can on the format of the Gods
avestin thanks for reminding me of 'And The Waters Opened' ! Beautiful record. I was convinced that the opening track had been heavily sampled by some trance artists. Or maybe Between lifted it themselves ? Anyways, nice one to 'ave a smoke with -------------
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 21:38
Just listening to this now, thanks  . She definately is an interesting piece, spliting listeners in half, it's all or none with this one. This beening said for my first listen through I am quite enjoyin this one, some very interesting moods and textures. I'm not being wowed, but it sound interesting enough to hold my attention. In controversy this almost reminds me of that Paternoster album, I think you should know which one I am talking about. Yet another interesting project Klaus has dipped his toe in, he produced it if I am not mistaken? |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 06:28
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Haven't heard the Paternoster LP BV. Worth a shout ? Talkin' of albums which, shall we say, 'take a while' I'm tryin' Yatha Sidhra's 'A Meditation Mass' yet again an' save for the excellent phasing on part 3 it still isn't doin' a lot. This has slow-burned for 10 years now... It's pretty much a universal given that she's a classic however I'm glad that I didn't chance her on vinyl for 150 quid an' got the cd instead. Must have been Dieter Dierks on the desk. Any better 'phasing' than Ash Ra Tempel's 'Flowers Must Die' ? That is phase central ! -------------
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 17:17
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 13:34
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Krautrock is defined in different ways. I consider any German band in
the category of Krautrock from Guru Guru to Triumvirat. What are some
of your takes on this?
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 13:47
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VB, I usually consider anything German, 70s, an' challenging as Krautrock. Some 8-tracks I've never got into (Gila, Mythos) but I accept their otherness. Never considered standard rock as part of the genre ala Scorpions an' Eloy (even took me 1972 plays of Thirsty Moons' debut to dig) but I gotta fair few 'Kraut Comps' that are more than happy to showcase their (and others) labels' acquisitions |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 18:47
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just curious do any of the big Duul fans here think that Can sucks super monkey balls? maybe it's just me Aaron |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 03:58
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^^ Strange question. I'm sure most krautrock listeners don't think in terms of rivalry |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 10:44
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Jus' bin 'avin a flick through the Can an' noticed that 'Prehistoric Future' (sessions from '68. Vinyl only) is missing. Could be a boot 'tho it was widely available in UK record shops when it was released a few years back. Also there is a French cassette (name escapes me. Don't 'ave it. Edit: 'Only You' perhaps ?) from the early '80s with some unreleased material -------------
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 10:48
I am a krautrock fan and love Amon Duul (both) and I also happen to love Can as well.
I know of others that dislike Can. But as others have noted, Can is different in approach and sound from their peers.
Focus on the ones you love and be happy with it ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 18 2006 at 05:04
Not a matter of rivalry, indeed... check my signature ; I love both bands (Can a little more, though)
btw; I think AD II went downhill after 1973. Nothing imaginative as Yeti or Lemminge... the same can be said about Can, but there's something that appeals me, even in their disco flavoured albums... (not Rite Time, that's something else
 !)------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 01:59
Great shout Agemo ! Stunning debut. I was gonna 5 star it but had a flick around an' couldn't find it here. Definately one to add
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 11:07
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Revival after 4 days...
Just listening to Anubian Lights' Let Not the Flame Die Out album.
this band is listed as Krautrock in the archives, despite the fact that they're from the USA. To make matters more complicated, they were moved here from psychedelic/space rock section!!!!
There are also a couple of other bands from other parts of the world, and the multinational Between... you can say Krautrock is a style rather than a national movement, but do these non-german bands really reflect the Krautrock style? (the said album of Anubian Lights reflect more of an experimental/electronic approach rather than classic Krautrock style)
Besides, even more German related bands (Swiss etc.) aren't listed under Krautrock, such as Brainticket (contrary to Krokodil, which I thought were swiss, in Krautrock!)
so, what are the criteria for Krautrock? if anubian lights is here, shouldn't bands like Tortoise and Stereolab also be included? (I didn't hear either of them, just writing upon info I got from PA) English Amon Düül is excused because of its original AD II connection; what about the rest? More important; what are some German bands in space/experimental genres while they could easily be described as Krautrock? (My Solid Ground is a prominent example)
P.S. the album I mentioned above is included in a mp3 selection CD named "Space Rock"!!!!!! it also includes one Hawkwind and a couple of other Hawkwind related material, Alan Davey, Nik Turner etc. ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 12:13
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Don't sweat it kitten -------------
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 20:04
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I also think the same thing about Brainticket, Bilek. IMO Cottonwoodhill and Psychonauts are clearly Krautrock. Although Tortoise has some krautrock influences, They where one of the pioneers of another genre.
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 21:50
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If you enjoy Krautrock, you might also enjoy Krautrock influenced music... Check out Hunters & Collectors for example. |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 22:17
Don't know 'em Doc. Any info ? -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 22:22
Have a read of Alan and Steve Freeman's 'Crack In The Cosmic Egg'. They usually have everything pretty much spot on. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/audion.html - http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/audion.html -------------
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 01:40
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http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/bio/0,,446622,00.html - http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/bio/0,,446622,00.html This will give you a little more information about Hunters & Collectors, although there is a wealth of information about them just through google A couple fast facts: Formed the year I was born! They named themselves after a song by Can |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:11
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A new band arrived at the archives. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2625 - Bardo Pond. Lovers of Krautrock might want to check this band out. I can recommend their album Lapsed. It's very noisy, but once you get the hang of it then it's all smooth sailing from there.  -------------
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:17
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I got and listened today to Jesdat - The City Lights. A pretty solid accomplished made my the spanish artists. I liked most of it, especially Blind World. Now I'm having some thoughts whether it's real Klautrock. I found slim resemblances, much more coming a Progressive Electronic essence, build upon experimentality and upon a technical dark ambiance. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:19
I'm really digging Cluster 71 lately, what a great album
Getting the first two Faust albums later today(maybe) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 18:59
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Faust an' So Far are gonna slay you! Incredible albums
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:12
And very hard to get into, but it sure pays off in the end. -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:24
You think so chams ? I liked 'em immediately. Was listening to a lot of Throbbing Gristle and Nurse With Wound at that time 'tho
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:55
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I think it was because it was my first Krautrock band it inmedeatly repelled me from the genre.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 22:35
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Anyone heard of this one, sound like it could fit the genre, have not heard any music yet. Sounds interesting though. Niagara: Niagara’s 1972 “S.U.B.” release on United Artist (Germany). Man finding info on this record is pretty scant. This is definitely a hot morsel of German jazz/kraut/funk. Here’s some words from http://www.gepr.net/na.html - Gepre.net : Prog, featuring Danny Fichelscher of Amon Düül II and Popol Vuh. First album is apparently all percussion. |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 22:55
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^^^ Sounds very interesting! For those who think they know krautrock have a look at this list from Ultima Thule! items wanted, or we need to hear... Anima - MONTE ALTO items we may want to hear... Actually, do we need to hear any of these? Are they any good? Aardvarks - SECOND, ODD ARK - 1st wasn't bad - are these better? -------------
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