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toolis 
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 Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:00 |
 oliverstoned wrote:
All that is pure invention.
You can invent all sub genres and categories you want, there's not the smallest progressive element in all that.
This is just garbage teenage music, IMO!
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i don't know if you say that for my post but all i did was to name the metal genres IMO and give an example.. i don't think that those are prog either...just metal...
as far as "garbage teenage music" is concerned, i respect your opinion but you should listen to Savatage or Fates and a few other hundreds of metal bands and maybe you changed your mind...
Edited by toolis - September 10 2006 at 04:04
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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mystic fred
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:10 |
Heavy Metal is derived from Heavy Rock, a hybrid of electrified Rock and Blues. Prog metal is a vary recent form of metal to my ears, though many metal "genres" are over-complicated since most bands can be associated with many categories not just one.......
f'rinstance....Iron Maiden - NWOBHM, Heavy metal, power metal, hair metal, stadium rock, goth metal, thrash metal, Prog metal..?????
..BTW that's naughty Oliver saying metal is garbage teenage music - early rock'n'roll and jazz was thus judged once upon a time you know! you sound like my dad god rest his soul.
Edited by mystic fred - September 10 2006 at 04:15
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Bryan
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:28 |
oliverstoned wrote:
All that is pure invention.
You can invent all sub genres and categories you want, there's not the smallest progressive element in all that.
This is just garbage teenage music, IMO!
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Yep, Kayo Dot and Spastic Ink are the definition of "garbage teenage music". It's a good thing somebody here knows what they're talking about.
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:43 |
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progressive music has to do with informality, abstraction, gradual process or changeable harmonic expressions. The sources come from "concepts" which emerged outside of popular music; coming from avant garde, classical music and non-western music. I see this genre as abstract expressionism or music for the brain...none metal pigheads can pretend to reach this musical aesthetic.
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toolis
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:50 |
philippe wrote:
progressive music has to do with informality, abstraction, gradual process or changeable harmonic expressions. The sources come from "concepts" which emerged outside of popular music; coming from avant garde, classical music and non-western music. I see this genre as abstract expressionism or music for the brain...none metal pigheads can pretend to reach this musical aesthetic. |
i feel sorry for you...
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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philippe
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:52 |
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you are just on the defensive I understand
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toolis
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:52 |
philippe wrote:
you are just on the defensive I understand |
yep, i'm a pighead...
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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philippe
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:53 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:56 |
philippe wrote:
progressive music has to do with informality, abstraction, gradual process or changeable harmonic expressions. The sources come from "concepts" which emerged outside of popular music; coming from avant garde, classical music and non-western music. I see this genre as abstract expressionism or music for the brain...none metal pigheads can pretend to reach this musical aesthetic. |
 Seriously, can't you at least *try* to be tolerant?
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toolis
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:56 |
philippe wrote:
certainly |
have you considered therapy?
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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philippe
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:57 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
philippe wrote:
progressive music has to do with informality, abstraction, gradual process or changeable harmonic expressions. The sources come from "concepts" which emerged outside of popular music; coming from avant garde, classical music and non-western music. I see this genre as abstract expressionism or music for the brain...none metal pigheads can pretend to reach this musical aesthetic. |
Seriously, can't you at least *try* to be tolerant?
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Can you sometimes consider things in their correct definition?
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Logos
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:58 |
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Just ignore philippe, he's a joke but a bad one.
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:58 |
Sorry, guys, this discussion has become abusive once again, so I think it would be better to close it for the time being, until tempers have cooled again. It really seems some people never learn... 
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Can each type of Metal be progressive?
