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Joren 
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 Posted: July 26 2004 at 06:22 |
I just downlaoded "Hard As Love".  What a laugh!
As progressive as U2 or Bon Jovi. I'm not kidding. I don't get it! What on earth is so great about this band?
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Orfeo
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Posted: July 26 2004 at 07:47 |
 Certif1ed wrote:
I can't think of another prog band that seems to attract such adolation from its fans at the same time as attracting idiotic sneers from those who do really not understand the music. |
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maani
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Posted: July 26 2004 at 12:46 |
Orfeo: If a two-chord progression repeated three times doesn't do it for you, you must hate about 80% of rock, and rock'n'roll - to say nothing of blues... Peace.
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JrKASperov
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Posted: July 26 2004 at 18:01 |
As a matter of fact, those three genres you mention are quite boring, unless they do something special with it like the Peppers on OHM. Especially blues 
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Epic.
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Joren
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Posted: July 27 2004 at 19:16 |
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They're fun as background music, to dance to, or to bang your head to, but you should NEVER listen to those genres of music (unless you're not familiar with prog rock or jazz or classical music... I mean... you have to start somewhere... AC/DC!
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Bryan
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Posted: July 30 2004 at 19:26 |
[QUOTE=Joren] I just downlaoded "Hard As Love". What a laugh! As progressive as U2 or Bon Jovi. I'm not kidding. I don't get it! What on earth is so great about this band?
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flippedcanvas
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Posted: August 02 2004 at 16:31 |
 I can't stand MARILLION with FISH'coz of the many relations/affinities with PETER GABRIEL but with the new singer they definetely took onboard a more varied genre than prog.rock it
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all the knots get back to the comb.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 02 2004 at 17:12 |
I think a little RESPECT is due here!!! Not to me, unless you think I deserve it, but to Orfeo, who asked a reasonable, technical question, to Prog Music - and Marillion, who are, like it or not, a Prog band
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flippedcanvas
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Posted: August 02 2004 at 17:21 |
 Sorry buddy yea I know what you mean,even in terms of the quality the new MARILLION are an awful lot better than how they started off with FISH,that certain element of heavy rock
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all the knots get back to the comb.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 03:31 |
That response still does not quantify WHY you hold that opinion. This is a technical discussion in terms of chord sequences and compositional devices, considering the macro and micro elements of the music, not an opinion exchange. Maril
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JrKASperov
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 07:10 |
Certif1ed wrote:
JrKASperov: Without the 3 genres you find "boring", there would be no prog! I suggest you listen to "Bare Wires" by John Mayall before you start criticising the Blues and Rock. |
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Epic.
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Joren
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 09:44 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Joren: I know your opinion about Marillion from other threads, repeating it just shows disrespect to those who do like them. You are, after all, a Collaborator. |
Certif1ed: I
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 10:36 |
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I think maybe what Cert is getting at is that the title of 'Collaborator', i.e. somebody who Max has decided has valued opinions in respect of album reviews / band biographies etc carries with it certain responsibilities, one of which being to keep a rein
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 14:53 |
Certif1ed wrote:
This is a technical discussion in terms of chord sequences and compositional devices, considering the macro and micro elements of the music, not an opinion exchange. |
I do agree Certif1ed that blantantly s
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 15:32 |
One of my points is that this is a technical discussion, not an invitation for opinions of a general and sweeping nature. If you cannot express your opinion in a musically informed way in such a specific thread, then it is best not to, if you wa
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JrKASperov
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 16:22 |
Excuse me? I clearly remember and SEE discussing technical stuff like composition and repetition? No need for personal attacks. ADD, I'll ellaborate some, I'm not opionating just because Marillion is b
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Epic.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 02:57 |
Well Certif1ed, I support everything that youŠve said so far. If Marillion with Fish was a Genesis clone, then SpockŠs Beard is a Gentle Giant clone as well as Echolyn. Flower Kings are YesZappaTullGiantGenesisCrimson...etc cl
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 03:01 |
[QUOTE=JrKASperov] Excuse me? I clearly remember and SEE discussing technical stuff like composition and repetition? No need for personal attacks. I must have missed your "
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JrKASperov
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 07:01 |
[QUOTE=Certif1ed]I must have missed your "discussing technical stuff like composition and repetition" - you certainly do none of that in this thread, you simply attack, as you put
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Epic.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 04 2004 at 07:38 |
[QUOTE=JrKASperov] [QUOTE=Certif1ed]I must have missed your "discussing technical stuff like composition and repetition" - you certainly do none of that in this thread, you simp
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