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W.Chuck
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 14:22 |
they are really ennerving
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist
Joined: March 01 2006
Location: San Foca, Friűl
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 15:08 |
D(D)T for DT polls!!!
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xtopher
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 16:27 |
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mccrank_yeahrig
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 17:03 |
No more DT pollss please!!! (at least for a moment)
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tuxon
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 17:06 |
I'm more annoyed by polls about polls.
I don't understand why people who are sick of DT polls waste their time on participating on an obvious DT poll as this poll obviouly is.
As you can understand i am not sick of polls about DT else I wouldn't reply to this poll
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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bruin69
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Joined: February 15 2006
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 319
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 17:14 |
It's great to be able to bash DT on a regular basis - keep 'em coming!
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 17:55 |
The Miracle wrote:
I love them, they are one of my favorite bands ever, and I think that all this DT poll madness is giving this amazong band a bad name. It also gives a groung for hates to bash them and turn people who don't even know DT off from listening to the band. Sorry DT
Everyone: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Tony shoould put a permanent ban on them, period.
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Well put Ansen, I agree.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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OpethGuitarist
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 25 2006
Location: United States
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Points: 1655
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 19:57 |
xtopher wrote:
OpethGuitarist wrote:
xtopher wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
I love them, they are one of my favorite bands ever, and I think that all this DT poll madness is giving this amazong band a bad name. It also gives a groung for hates to bash them and turn people who don't even know DT off from listening to the band. Sorry DT
Everyone: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Tony shoould put a permanent ban on them, period.
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I couldn't agree more. I love DT, and I also like talking about them, but I'm sick of seeing the DT bashers out in full force. Take away their provisions and they will shrink up into little, humble masses with nothing to talk about. But give them a DT poll and BAM!—they live to hate another day.
It's amazing how highly scrutinized DT seems to be compared to the other prog giants on this site. Definitely the scapegoats of PA.
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There's probably a reason for that, just a hunch
When you have a group of 5 very talented musicians(don't get me wrong, they are definitely good at their instruments) sometimes that doesn't work for a group and composing good songs.
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I'm sorry. I just disagree with this. There are plenty of bands out there who can play the hell out of their instruments. Dream Theater can play the hell out of their instruments AND compose excellent songs. There's no way they'd be garnering so much attention if they weren't great songwriters in addition to their instrumental pyrotechnics.
You've just got to ask yourself: why are you here in a DT poll? Are you here to be negative to bash everything, or do you actually care about the topic in question? All the DT bashers should know this: trashing DT is perpetuating the attention towards DT that you so despise. Nobody wants this. Give it a rest.
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No, they can't compose excellent songs. That's why a large number of people don't like them, because they are of the opinion they are not very good songwriters. Sure they can write a riff in 9/8 time and do a crazy solo but that doens't make anything worth listening to. They get attention becuase of their ability to play their instruments and the fact that they sometimes are "circusy" with their music. And I made the poll, so don't ask why I'm here. Don't assume anything either. I didn't trash the band per se until this post, becuase you went out of your way to make it look like I am some sort of d*ckhead. The majority of DT polls are being made by the fans, not the "bashers". Reconsider yourself for just a second.
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back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 20:17 |
OpethGuitarist wrote:
xtopher wrote:
OpethGuitarist wrote:
xtopher wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
I love them, they are one of my favorite bands ever, and I think that all this DT poll madness is giving this amazong band a bad name. It also gives a groung for hates to bash them and turn people who don't even know DT off from listening to the band. Sorry DT
Everyone: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Tony shoould put a permanent ban on them, period.
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I couldn't agree more. I love DT, and I also like talking about them, but I'm sick of seeing the DT bashers out in full force. Take away their provisions and they will shrink up into little, humble masses with nothing to talk about. But give them a DT poll and BAM!—they live to hate another day.
It's amazing how highly scrutinized DT seems to be compared to the other prog giants on this site. Definitely the scapegoats of PA.
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There's probably a reason for that, just a hunch
When you have a group of 5 very talented musicians(don't get me wrong, they are definitely good at their instruments) sometimes that doesn't work for a group and composing good songs.
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I'm sorry. I just disagree with this. There are plenty of bands out there who can play the hell out of their instruments. Dream Theater can play the hell out of their instruments AND compose excellent songs. There's no way they'd be garnering so much attention if they weren't great songwriters in addition to their instrumental pyrotechnics.
You've just got to ask yourself: why are you here in a DT poll? Are you here to be negative to bash everything, or do you actually care about the topic in question? All the DT bashers should know this: trashing DT is perpetuating the attention towards DT that you so despise. Nobody wants this. Give it a rest.
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No, they can't compose excellent songs. That's why a large number of people don't like them, because they are of the opinion they are not very good songwriters.
Sure they can write a riff in 9/8 time and do a crazy solo but that doens't make anything worth listening to.
They get attention becuase of their ability to play their instruments and the fact that they sometimes are "circusy" with their music.
And I made the poll, so don't ask why I'm here. Don't assume anything either. I didn't trash the band per se until this post, becuase you went out of your way to make it look like I am some sort of d*ckhead. The majority of DT polls are being made by the fans, not the "bashers". Reconsider yourself for just a second.
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I have to completely disagree with your first sentance, thats a matter of opinion, not fact. I take the same view to Yes. Xtopher does have a point, the DT bashers do seem to come out in force whenever there is a DT thread/poll (though I dont mind Ghost Rider and Miky as their posts are fun to read ) but a lot of the polls made by fans seem to get worse and worse, as well as meaningless and unoriginal.
Edited by sleeper - September 03 2006 at 20:17
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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OpethGuitarist
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 25 2006
Location: United States
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Points: 1655
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 20:24 |
Look at what I said. I said its an opinion. Please read what I am typing. Thank you.
Whether he has a point or not is NOT the point. The point is he was using me as a scapegoat for w/e reasoning he wanted to have, when I had little to do with the issue.
However, if there's 100 polls and 50 of them are DT, then what else do you have to respond to as a forum member?
I would like to either propose a permanent ban on the creation of new DT polls or have a separate forum for all the DT polls that way other members do not have to sift through them.
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back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 20:38 |
OpethGuitarist wrote:
Look at what I said. I said its an opinion. Please read what I am typing. Thank you.
Whether he has a point or not is NOT the point. The point is he was using me as a scapegoat for w/e reasoning he wanted to have, when I had little to do with the issue.
However, if there's 100 polls and 50 of them are DT, then what else do you have to respond to as a forum member?
I would like to either propose a permanent ban on the creation of new DT polls or have a separate forum for all the DT polls that way other members do not have to sift through them.
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Sorry, I'm a bit tired and seemed to miss that bit.
I'm not going to bother defending Xtopher, he wrote the post so I'll let him defend his own thoughts, and I agree, a ban on DT polls would probably be a good idea, they bore me silly.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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xtopher
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 19 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 391
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 20:51 |
OpethGuitarist wrote:
xtopher wrote:
OpethGuitarist wrote:
xtopher wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
I love them, they are one of my favorite bands ever, and I think that all this DT poll madness is giving this amazong band a bad name. It also gives a groung for hates to bash them and turn people who don't even know DT off from listening to the band. Sorry DT
Everyone: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Tony shoould put a permanent ban on them, period.
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I couldn't agree more. I love DT, and I also like talking about them, but I'm sick of seeing the DT bashers out in full force. Take away their provisions and they will shrink up into little, humble masses with nothing to talk about. But give them a DT poll and BAM!—they live to hate another day.
It's amazing how highly scrutinized DT seems to be compared to the other prog giants on this site. Definitely the scapegoats of PA.
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There's probably a reason for that, just a hunch
When you have a group of 5 very talented musicians(don't get me wrong, they are definitely good at their instruments) sometimes that doesn't work for a group and composing good songs.
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I'm sorry. I just disagree with this. There are plenty of bands out there who can play the hell out of their instruments. Dream Theater can play the hell out of their instruments AND compose excellent songs. There's no way they'd be garnering so much attention if they weren't great songwriters in addition to their instrumental pyrotechnics.
You've just got to ask yourself: why are you here in a DT poll? Are you here to be negative to bash everything, or do you actually care about the topic in question? All the DT bashers should know this: trashing DT is perpetuating the attention towards DT that you so despise. Nobody wants this. Give it a rest.
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No, they can't compose excellent songs. That's why a large number of people don't like them, because they are of the opinion they are not very good songwriters.
Sure they can write a riff in 9/8 time and do a crazy solo but that doens't make anything worth listening to.
They get attention becuase of their ability to play their instruments and the fact that they sometimes are "circusy" with their music.
And I made the poll, so don't ask why I'm here. Don't assume anything either. I didn't trash the band per se until this post, becuase you went out of your way to make it look like I am some sort of d*ckhead. The majority of DT polls are being made by the fans, not the "bashers". Reconsider yourself for just a second.
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You misunderstand me. My first paragraph was directed towards you, my second paragraph was towards everyone. I should've specified that. You are of the mind that DT can't write songs, and only get all their attention through being "circusy" with their music. I'm paraphrasing; excuse me. But there's a reason I like listening to DT more than I like listening to Yngwie Malmsteen or Symphony X (although I like them too); and it has to do with DT being more dynamic and better overall songwriters. There's no way I'd be wasting my time with DT if I didn't think their songwriting skills are, in fact, extraordinary. It's fine to hold your own opinion. You have yours and I have mine. Now again, my second paragraph (the one with the magnified font) was for everyone. Again, I apologize for failing to point this out. You're right, the majority of the DT polls are made by the fans. Not me, personally; I've never started a DT thread of any sort. Hey, I mean, I like talking about DT. But I'm sick of seeing polls about them because it just clears the path for the flames. And think about it: if the people who don't like DT but who complain about all the DT polls could just help themselves by abstaining to all these polls, think how much less attention DT would get. No more DT polls, no more brainless DT zealousness, no more brainless DT bashing. Everybody wins.
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xtopher
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 19 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 391
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 20:55 |
OpethGuitarist wrote:
Look at what I said. I said its an opinion. Please read what I am typing. Thank you.
Whether he has a point or not is NOT the point. The point is he was using me as a scapegoat for w/e reasoning he wanted to have, when I had little to do with the issue.
However, if there's 100 polls and 50 of them are DT, then what else do you have to respond to as a forum member?
I would like to either propose a permanent ban on the creation of new DT polls or have a separate forum for all the DT polls that way other members do not have to sift through them.
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See, I agree with you. Yay. Let's talk about some non-DT prog-metal.
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tardis
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 02 2005
Location: Victoria, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 14378
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 21:39 |
"I want to stab my eye out with a pitchfork"
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 28057
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 23:27 |
The dissing of Dream Theater is far worse than the Dream Theater threads.
I bet that if I turned to the Prog Polls section right now, there will be more Yes, Genesis, Tool, or Porcupine Tree threads than Dream Theater threads.
The mob mentality on this site is sickening sometimes.
Raise you're hand if you're a hypocrite.
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xtopher
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 19 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 391
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Posted: September 03 2006 at 23:51 |
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micky
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
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Points: 46833
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:55 |
hahhaha
no comment...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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micky
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
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Points: 46833
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:57 |
stonebeard wrote:
The dissing of Dream Theater is far worse than the Dream Theater threads.
I bet that if I turned to the Prog Polls section right now, there
will be more Yes, Genesis, Tool, or Porcupine Tree threads than Dream
Theater threads.
The mob mentality on this site is sickening sometimes.
Raise you're hand if you're a hypocrite. |
*emoticon for raising hand*
I've always been accused of following the mob mentality hahahha
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Padraic
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 10:12 |
stonebeard wrote:
The dissing of Dream Theater is far worse than the Dream Theater threads.
I bet that if I turned to the Prog Polls section right now, there
will be more Yes, Genesis, Tool, or Porcupine Tree threads than Dream
Theater threads.
The mob mentality on this site is sickening sometimes.
Raise you're hand if you're a hypocrite. |
Thank you x1000 for posting this.
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The Wizard
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 18 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 7341
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Posted: September 04 2006 at 10:16 |
I'm sick of Dream Theatre in general.
*ducks for cover*
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