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The Wizard
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Topic: Led Zeppelin appreciation Posted: August 31 2006 at 18:59 |
The Hammer of the Gods need to be discussed without debating how 'prog' they are, so I made this thread. Lets just talk about how awesome these guys were and how they rock are crotches better than anyone else. No prog talk, like "I think they were most prog in this album....".
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:12 |
OK, The Wizard, thanks for giving me the opportunity to review Led Zep on this site :
LED ZEPPELIN (2-DVD) - HOW THE WEST WAS WON
(2003 Atlantic Records, 320 min, 0349 70198-2)
“Playing live was the real jewel in our existence” says Robert Plant in the booklet. Well, this double DVD with only previously unreleased live footage from Led Zeppelin in the Seventies (and extra’s in ’69 and ‘90) shows their captivating development: they started as a powerhouse bluesrock group (DVD 1) but gradually Led Zeppelin turned into an eclectic rockband (DVD 2) with some mindblowing rock compositions that can compete with the best ‘epic’ progrock songs.
The first DVD contains 12 tracks from a concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 (at that moment Led Zep’s second album was number 1 in the USA and UK!): “We’re gonna groove”, “I can’t quit you babe” (great interplay between Plant’s vocals and Page’s guitar, years before Gillan and Blackmore), “Dazed and confused” (spectacular, legandary act from Page by playing bow on his guitar), “White summer”, “What is and what should never be” (fine bottle neck solo),” “How many more times” (20 minutes with an excellent Page with lots of solos), “Moby Dick” (the famous drum solo with Bonham playing a few minutes with his bare hands, dynamically filmed from different angles), “Whole lotta love” (‘classic’ guitar riff and solos on bongos and guitar), “Communication breakdown” and the pure R&R songs “C’mon everybody”, ”Something else” and “Bring it on home” (with Plant on harmonica). The extra’s on DVD 1 contain all tracks from ’69 (Page with a beautifully painted Fender Telecaster): “Communication breakdown promo” (playback version in b/w), “Danmark radio” (“Communication breakdown” with wah-wah solo/”Dazed and confused”/”Babe I’m gonna leave you”, a raw version of one of my favorite Led Zep songs/ “How many more times”, all in b/w), “Supershow” (“Dazed and confused”, spectacular shots) from British TV and “Tous en scene” (“Communication breakdown”/”Dazed and confused”) from Paris TV.
The second DVD starts with “Immigrant Song” (blistering and howling guitar solo) from 1972, followed by three concerts: Madison Squarden Garden from 1973 with “Black dog”, “Misty mountain hop” (JP Jones on the Fender electric piano), “Since I’ve been loving you” (expressive shots from Plant and Page in this blues classic) and “The ocean”, Earls Court from 1975 with three ‘unplugged’ songs titled “Going to California” (JP Jones on a mandolin), “That’s the way”, “Bron yr aur stomp”, followed by “In my time of dying”, “Trampled underfoot” (JP Jones ‘s clavinet gives it a funky climate) and “Stairway to heaven” and Knebworth from 1979 with “Rock and roll”, “Nobody’s fault but mine”, “Sick again”, “Achilles last stand”, “In the evening”, “Kashimir” and “Whole lotta love”. The extra’s include “NYC press conference” from 1970, “Down Under” from 1972 (“Rock and roll/interviews with the band), “The old grey whistle test” from 1975 (Robert Plant interview) and “Promos” from 1990 (“Over the hill and far away”/”Travelling riverside blues”). My personal highlights on this overwhelming 2-DVD set are “White summer” (12-minutes solo on the impressive Danelectro guitar by Page), “Bron yr aur stomp” (great vocals and splendid play by Page on his acoustic Martin: twanging, rhythm and solos), “In my time of dying” (captivating and dynamic song with Page using a bottle-neck on the Danelectro guitar), “Stairway to heaven” (‘killer version’: intro with blue light on JP Jones his Mellotron and Page his Gibson twin-neck guitar and halfway an extended, very compelling guitar solo) and “Kashmir” (wonderful Eastern-oriented atmosphere with JP Jones on the Yamaha GX-1 ‘super synthesizer’). This historical document is already one of my favorite DVD’s and I just read that is has topped the charts in many countries, including the USA and my home country Holland. My conclusion: PLANT IS SEX (“I’ll give you every inch of my love”), PAGE IS GOD (and the best Yardbird) and LED ZEPPELIN IS THE ULTIMATE ROCKBAND (suddenly the Rolling Stones, Who and Beatles seem to sound like overexcited schoolbands). Splendid and timeless music, wonderful packaging and superb sound and images (read the booklet about the unorthodox restoration), this 2-DVD is a triple must!
A big hand for Led Zep
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:13 |
Have all their albums. Good band, but not one of my favorites.
Most Recent Rolling Stone issues labelled LZ as the "Heaviest Band of Alltime"
Sabbath
Purple
Heep
Earing
Wishbone Ash perhaps
Priest
Maiden
Motohead
Led Zepplin is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated. Goood band, just overrated.
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:14 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
OK, The Wizard, thanks for giving me the opportunity to review Led Zep on this site :
LED ZEPPELIN (2-DVD) - HOW THE WEST WAS WON
(2003 Atlantic Records, 320 min, 0349 70198-2)
“Playing live was the real jewel in our existence” says Robert Plant in the booklet. Well, this double DVD with only previously unreleased live footage from Led Zeppelin in the Seventies (and extra’s in ’69 and ‘90) shows their captivating development: they started as a powerhouse bluesrock group (DVD 1) but gradually Led Zeppelin turned into an eclectic rockband (DVD 2) with some mindblowing rock compositions that can compete with the best ‘epic’ progrock songs.
The first DVD contains 12 tracks from a concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 (at that moment Led Zep’s second album was number 1 in the USA and UK!): “We’re gonna groove”, “I can’t quit you babe” (great interplay between Plant’s vocals and Page’s guitar, years before Gillan and Blackmore), “Dazed and confused” (spectacular, legandary act from Page by playing bow on his guitar), “White summer”, “What is and what should never be” (fine bottle neck solo),” “How many more times” (20 minutes with an excellent Page with lots of solos), “Moby Dick” (the famous drum solo with Bonham playing a few minutes with his bare hands, dynamically filmed from different angles), “Whole lotta love” (‘classic’ guitar riff and solos on bongos and guitar), “Communication breakdown” and the pure R&R songs “C’mon everybody”, ”Something else” and “Bring it on home” (with Plant on harmonica). The extra’s on DVD 1 contain all tracks from ’69 (Page with a beautifully painted Fender Telecaster): “Communication breakdown promo” (playback version in b/w), “Danmark radio” (“Communication breakdown” with wah-wah solo/”Dazed and confused”/”Babe I’m gonna leave you”, a raw version of one of my favorite Led Zep songs/ “How many more times”, all in b/w), “Supershow” (“Dazed and confused”, spectacular shots) from British TV and “Tous en scene” (“Communication breakdown”/”Dazed and confused”) from Paris TV.
The second DVD starts with “Immigrant Song” (blistering and howling guitar solo) from 1972, followed by three concerts: Madison Squarden Garden from 1973 with “Black dog”, “Misty mountain hop” (JP Jones on the Fender electric piano), “Since I’ve been loving you” (expressive shots from Plant and Page in this blues classic) and “The ocean”, Earls Court from 1975 with three ‘unplugged’ songs titled “Going to California” (JP Jones on a mandolin), “That’s the way”, “Bron yr aur stomp”, followed by “In my time of dying”, “Trampled underfoot” (JP Jones ‘s clavinet gives it a funky climate) and “Stairway to heaven” and Knebworth from 1979 with “Rock and roll”, “Nobody’s fault but mine”, “Sick again”, “Achilles last stand”, “In the evening”, “Kashimir” and “Whole lotta love”. The extra’s include “NYC press conference” from 1970, “Down Under” from 1972 (“Rock and roll/interviews with the band), “The old grey whistle test” from 1975 (Robert Plant interview) and “Promos” from 1990 (“Over the hill and far away”/”Travelling riverside blues”). My personal highlights on this overwhelming 2-DVD set are “White summer” (12-minutes solo on the impressive Danelectro guitar by Page), “Bron yr aur stomp” (great vocals and splendid play by Page on his acoustic Martin: twanging, rhythm and solos), “In my time of dying” (captivating and dynamic song with Page using a bottle-neck on the Danelectro guitar), “Stairway to heaven” (‘killer version’: intro with blue light on JP Jones his Mellotron and Page his Gibson twin-neck guitar and halfway an extended, very compelling guitar solo) and “Kashmir” (wonderful Eastern-oriented atmosphere with JP Jones on the Yamaha GX-1 ‘super synthesizer’). This historical document is already one of my favorite DVD’s and I just read that is has topped the charts in many countries, including the USA and my home country Holland. My conclusion: PLANT IS SEX (“I’ll give you every inch of my love”), PAGE IS GOD (and the best Yardbird) and LED ZEPPELIN IS THE ULTIMATE ROCKBAND (suddenly the Rolling Stones, Who and Beatles seem to sound like overexcited schoolbands). Splendid and timeless music, wonderful packaging and superb sound and images (read the booklet about the unorthodox restoration), this 2-DVD is a triple must!
A big hand for Led Zep |
One of My favorite Live Albums of all time.
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The Wizard
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:21 |
New rule: Can't say they're overrated.
I wrote this on Led Zeppelin III:
Forget what the crtitics tell you, this is Led Zeppelin true masterpiece. They carry a resonance here that is only heard on this album. This album is also very diverse and show there sound evolving. Expanding upon the folk rock elements previoulsy explored, the whole second side is almost entirely acoustic. This drew some critism from fans of the Zeppelin's heavier side. What they didn't see was the beauty in those acoustic numbers. But fear not, becuase there are still some great rockers on this album and the atmospere is still positively Zep. By far this Led Zeppelins best album as songwriters. I think it's there best.
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Barla
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:23 |
THE MIGHTY LED ZEPPELIN, DUDES !!
= GODS OF ROCK N' ROLL !!
By far, one of my favourite bands, if not the most favourite one !! Also, one of the very first bands I really got into !! Just look at my signature and avatar !! I love this band veeeeery much, it's hard to describe this with words, they're just the GODS of Rock N' Roll !!
So, again:
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Barla
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:26 |
Asyte2c00 wrote:
Have all their albums. Good band, but not one of my favorites.
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Led Zepplin is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated. Goood band, just overrated. |
What ?
YOU CAN'T SAY THEY'RE OVERRATED !!
Seriously, what's overrated about them ????
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The Wizard
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:27 |
Barla wrote:
Asyte2c00 wrote:
Have all their albums. Good band, but not one of my favorites.
(...)
Led Zepplin is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated. Goood band, just overrated. |
What ?
YOU CAN'T SAY THEY'RE OVERRATED !!
Seriously, what's overrated about them ???? |
Exactly. Led Zeppelin are so good they're almost underrated!
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:32 |
The Wizard wrote:
New rule: Can't say they're overrated.
I wrote this on Led Zeppelin III:
Forget what the crtitics tell you, this is Led Zeppelin true masterpiece. They carry a resonance here that is only heard on this album. This album is also very diverse and show there sound evolving. Expanding upon the folk rock elements previoulsy explored, the whole second side is almost entirely acoustic. This drew some critism from fans of the Zeppelin's heavier side. What they didn't see was the beauty in those acoustic numbers. But fear not, becuase there are still some great rockers on this album and the atmospere is still positively Zep. By far this Led Zeppelins best album as songwriters. I think it's there best. |
You are as familiar with Zeps material as I am. I have listned to all of thei studio albums, BBC Sessions, and the How the West Was Won and have formulated an opinion, that they are a solid rock outfit with many good songs.
BTw, listned to some British Acid Folkl like Trees, Forest, Comus, and Ecclection and them listen to LZ III. It seems british acid folk compilation.
Joy Division or Led Zeppelin. I have to choose the former, Robert Plant never moved me the Way ian Curtis has. Curtis is more emotiona than Plant.
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The Wizard
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:36 |
Asyte2c00 wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
New rule: Can't say they're overrated.
I wrote this on Led Zeppelin III:
Forget what the crtitics tell you, this is Led Zeppelin true masterpiece. They carry a resonance here that is only heard on this album. This album is also very diverse and show there sound evolving. Expanding upon the folk rock elements previoulsy explored, the whole second side is almost entirely acoustic. This drew some critism from fans of the Zeppelin's heavier side. What they didn't see was the beauty in those acoustic numbers. But fear not, becuase there are still some great rockers on this album and the atmospere is still positively Zep. By far this Led Zeppelins best album as songwriters. I think it's there best. |
You are as familiar with Zeps material as I am. I have listned to all of thei studio albums, BBC Sessions, and the How the West Was Won and have formulated an opinion, that they are a solid rock outfit with many good songs.
BTw, listned to some British Acid Folkl like Trees, Forest, Comus, and Ecclection and them listen to LZ III. It seems british acid folk compilation.
Joy Division or Led Zeppelin. I have to choose the former, Robert Plant never moved me the Way ian Curtis has. Curtis is more emotiona than Plant. |
That's like comparing apples and oranges!
Out on the Tiles is a great song by the way, I don't get why some people call it weak. It makes me happy.
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 19:56 |
To the big fans of Led Zeppelin:
What are some of your favorite PROG bands from the 60's and 70's? Do you compare them at all?
ALso, what other classic rock bands do you enjoy?
thanks!
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:00 |
Lately I prefer Robert Plant´s solo output. The album Dreamland is incredible (seems his voice is getting better with age)
But back to Zeppelin, Led Zep 3 is a must have!
Great band, almost as good as Purple!
Edited by WaywardSon - August 31 2006 at 21:00
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:06 |
WaywardSon wrote:
Lately I prefer Robert Plant´s solo output. The album Dreamland is incredible (seems his voice is getting better with age)
But back to Zeppelin, Led Zep 3 is a must have!
Great band, almost as good as Purple! |
Plant lost his voice after Houses of the Holy
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willy
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:34 |
Saying they're over rated just shows how little you know of JPJ's and Bonzo's abilities.
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:35 |
willy wrote:
Saying they're over rated just shows how little you know of JPJ's and Bonzo's abilities.
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Abilities don't make a band.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: August 31 2006 at 21:41 |
Plant lost his voice after Houses of the Holy [/QUOTE]
That is just crazy talk son!
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Posted: September 01 2006 at 07:31 |
Asyte2c00 wrote:
WaywardSon wrote:
Lately I prefer Robert Plant´s solo output. The album Dreamland is incredible (seems his voice is getting better with age)
But back to Zeppelin, Led Zep 3 is a must have!
Great band, almost as good as Purple! |
Plant lost his voice after Houses of the Holy |
I don't see much wrong with his singing on "Physical Graffiti" (or any others after HOTH for that matter). If only I could sing half as well as Planty on "Kashmir"!
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Posted: September 01 2006 at 07:37 |
I'm fond of Stairway To Heaven in the Song Remains The Same interpretation...and generally, I'm fond of Song Remains The Same album.
but that's about it.Led Zep are a point on which I can't stand.
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Posted: September 01 2006 at 10:44 |
Led Zeppelin still are and always will be my favourite band of all time for many reasons, they became the standard many other bands were judged by, the blueprint for a whole generation of music and their legacy lives on. Since i first heard them in 1969 their electric magic has worked on me ever since - some accused them of plagiarising the work of Blues musicians, some i may never have heard if it wasn't for Zeppelin, and their folk influences and associations such as Joan Baez and Sandy Denny, and many musicians who they influenced in turn. They had a great manager in Peter Grant, the rock the band was built upon. Their Earl's Court concerts in 1975 were legendary, they were on top form - the best gig i ever saw, each member of the band a seasoned virtuoso and influential in their respective fields. They made eight classic studio albums, and "Coda", a collection of out-takes, material most bands would give their right arm for, and a brilliant live album "The Song Remains the Same", a relief from those muddy bootleg tapes! The BBC sessions album is no less stunning, and "How the West was Won" introduced a whole new generation of fans. Page and Plant reassociated and reworked some of Zeppelin's classic songs to amazing effect, and Robert Plant's current band "Strange Sensation" continue to forge ahead with new ideas.
Led Zeppelin still continue to collect many honours and awards to this day, and will always be legendary. What more can i say...Led Zeppelin...the greatest band of all time!!!
Edited by mystic fred - September 01 2006 at 10:50
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