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Nanook 
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 Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:54 |
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Well, put me down for one that likes Asia. And for the record, I'm not gay either.
Asia always puts out good music, well played and sung. Call it what you will, but it's still good music.
I'll go further than that, I like both incarnations of Asia, too, not just the first lineup. John Payne's voice is outstanding. Listen to the album Aura, excellent work. Their cover of 10CC's Ready to go home is phenomenal.
Call me what you like, but Asia is an extremely talented musical group, one of many who are ignored by over 90% of the music buying public.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:02 |
 Nanook wrote:
Call it what you will, but it's still good music.
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Call it what you will, it's still pandering to the lowest common denominator.
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eddietrooper
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:10 |
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Their debut album is good IMO. Commercial AOR with prog influences, but still good. Their second album is crappy, though.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:11 |
Nanook wrote:
Well, put me down for one that likes Asia. And for the record, I'm not gay either. |
Eh.
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verslibre
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:23 |
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Always found it funny how Geoff Downes made Asia his baby and kept releasing albums...not to offend anybody, but how many copies do those things really sell? Who buys them?
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eddietrooper
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 16:16 |
verslibre wrote:
Always found it funny how Geoff Downes made Asia his baby and kept releasing albums...not to offend anybody, but how many copies do those things really sell? Who buys them? |
That can be applied to most of the prog releases of the last 20 years.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 16:22 |
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^Honestly, though. Isn't obscure mainstream music pretty much the definition of pointless?
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salmacis
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 17:32 |
I like Asia's debut- always have done. The later Wetton albums are a bit of a letdown as they all sound like the debut, with only 'The Heat Goes On', 'The Smile Has Left Your Eyes', 'Prayin' For A Miracle' and particularly 'Days Like These' standing out. However their last album 'Silent Nation' saw a huge upturn- possibly the most musically interesting album I've heard of theirs. I'll have to check out the other Payne albums.
I don't think Asia could have won whatever they did- if they'd have done purist prog in the 80s, they'd have been slammed for being 'old hat' (just like I've seen many 'neo prog' bands called here), yet as they went mainstream they faced criticism for being too poppy and selling out. Catch-22, really. Personally I like many of their songs a lot and don't see the problem with their music that causes such an amount of loathing they seem to- in my mind, 80s Genesis is far more of a sell out than Asia in terms of sound. It just so happens that I like AOR bands like Journey, Boston, Foreigner, Styx et al as well as all manner of prog. I find Asia to be a neat middleground.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 20:29 |
salmacis wrote:
It just so happens that I like AOR bands like Journey, Boston,
Foreigner, Styx et al as well as all manner of prog. I find Asia to be
a neat middleground. |
If Asia is a "middle ground", no wonder people have the temerity to call Spock's Beard a Prog band, then... 
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necromancing777
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:41 |
Here's what Carl Palmer had to say about the Asia 25th anniversary tour:
In May 2006, Carl Palmer announced in an in-studio appearance on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic that the original lineup of Asia would tour the United States - the territory in which the group enjoyed its greatest success - in late summer of that year. Palmer stated the set list would include the entire 'Asia' album, and that band members would likely "throw in" selections from their respective earlier projects (specifically giving "Roundabout" as an example), to give younger fans a sense of where they had come from prior to forming the supergroup. The drummer, who was also promoting a new album of classic progressive rock material re-interpreted without vocals or keyboards, said that once the agreement had been reached, everyone was eager to move forward on the project in advance of the anniversary. Palmer modestly added that, should the tour be a success, a live DVD release could mark that anniversary in 2007.
Edited by necromancing777 - June 18 2006 at 22:41
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"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash,
But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash."
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:44 |
necromancing777 wrote:
Here's what Carl Palmer had to say about the Asia 25th anniversary tour:
In May 2006, Carl Palmer announced in an in-studio appearance on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic that the original lineup of Asia would tour the United States - the territory in which the group enjoyed its greatest success - in late summer of that year. Palmer stated the set list would include the entire 'Asia' album, and that band members would likely "throw in" selections from their respective earlier projects (specifically giving "Roundabout" as an example), to give younger fans a sense of where they had come from prior to forming the supergroup. The drummer, who was also promoting a new album of classic progressive rock material re-interpreted without vocals or keyboards, said that once the agreement had been reached, everyone was eager to move forward on the project in advance of the anniversary. Palmer modestly added that, should the tour be a success, a live DVD release could mark that anniversary in 2007. |
Wait, Aren't you that guy who likes Asia?
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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necromancing777
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Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:58 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
necromancing777 wrote:
Here's what Carl Palmer had to say about the Asia 25th anniversary tour:
In May 2006, Carl Palmer announced in an in-studio appearance on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic that the original lineup of Asia would tour the United States - the territory in which the group enjoyed its greatest success - in late summer of that year. Palmer stated the set list would include the entire 'Asia' album, and that band members would likely "throw in" selections from their respective earlier projects (specifically giving "Roundabout" as an example), to give younger fans a sense of where they had come from prior to forming the supergroup. The drummer, who was also promoting a new album of classic progressive rock material re-interpreted without vocals or keyboards, said that once the agreement had been reached, everyone was eager to move forward on the project in advance of the anniversary. Palmer modestly added that, should the tour be a success, a live DVD release could mark that anniversary in 2007. |
Wait, Aren't you that guy who likes Asia? |
Doh! You got me... 
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"Your progressive hypocrites hand out their trash,
But it was mine in the first place, so I'll burn it to ash."
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Sacred 22
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 02:46 |
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Their first album is a pretty good pop album, that's all. Not prog, just prog players making a little coin. Come on, prog is not a great source of income. The masters know enough to "aim high and shoot low". As long as they come back to earth after making all that loot.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 03:03 |
Sacred 22 wrote:
Their first album is a pretty good pop album, that's
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AOR. Pop isn't based on Blues/Rock harmonies.
Edited by Teaflax - June 19 2006 at 03:04
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Big Ears
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 08:48 |
Any group including Chris Slade should be good. Asia may get 'dissed' because John Payne was not a popular replacement for John Wetton. What happened to Wetton and Palmer's Quango project? Was Payne a member of ELO? (Where did they recruit him?)
Edited by Big Ears - June 19 2006 at 08:53
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iguana
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 12:01 |
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hello ASIA bashers, you might like to have a got at
this older thread here:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7669&KW=
my (lengthy) reply is twds. the end, although my general
opinion has altered considerably after the announcement
of the reunion and the disgraceful exit(ing) of john payne.
enough said!
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Codis
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Posted: June 19 2006 at 15:55 |
Hey, did you hear the original members of GTR are re-uniting?  Just kidding (I hope!) Put me down in the "likes Asia" camp. The first album, at least. Didn't care to listen to the others. I considered going to the show in Redbank, NJ, but most good seats are already sold (!!) Maybe I'll scalp.
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CVoss
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 10:42 |
stonebeard wrote:
"Heat of the Moment" is on my playlist of songs to blast really loud in the car, as are Europe's "The Final Countdown" and Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again."
Who's living in the 80s? I'm super  !
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I actually did blast "Heat of the Moment" once on my dorm computer, just for amusement, and for my roommates to potentially say "Asia? WTF, man?" Of course, this was months ago. Good times.
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A B Negative
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Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:19 |
Why I don't like Asia -
The music is rubbish (apart from "Heat of the Moment", which tempted me into spending my pocket money on the first Asia album only to find it was the only good song on it). If the band was made up of no-hopers then it would be understandable but band members are obviously talented, creative individuals. Asia is a case of something being much less than the sum of its parts.
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TOD KREMER
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 02:19 |
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I have tickets to see them in September at a small club. I am not expecting much prog but I am expecting a good time hearing some of my idols play together. I am glad they are touring. Yes, they are one of the biggest disappointments in prog history but they did have a sound, the place will be packed. I will, no doubt, spill my beer as I pound my fist in the air to the opening keyboard strains of "Heat Of The Moment". And I will make no apologies.
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