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Poll Question: Which band/artist of these has your favoured album?
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    Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:13
Fourth-rate, as in band-rated or ranked fourth.  Or more accurately, I mean the fourth band name listed on each prog subgenre list in the 'top progressive albums by genre' pages.  See details in my stats and musing below (I had some time to kill and have forgotten what my point was... All seems a bit silly and excessive now that I've finished writing this out)...

Oh yeah, each album -- like "In  Glass House" -- is the most popular, according to the lists, title by the band.  The popularity of the following particular albums determined the bands 'fourth placement,'  but you can choose to vote based on any single album by the bands I've listed above.

 
Art Rock: Gentle Giant, whose album "In a Glass House" is ranked 22 in this site's top albums list for "all genres," is the fourth art-rock band-name listed in art-rock.  It's the 7th highest rated album in the art-rock category.  With 3 of the top 5 albums, King Crimson rules art-rock, and is of course one of the top-rated bands over-all at this siteOf course some might say that the Gentle Giant could stomp all over the King's Crimson-ass, but then that wouldn't be very gentle of the giant. 
 
Canterbury: Soft Machine, at 133 in overall (all genres) album standing, is the fourth Canterbury band listed with "Third," and is the 5th highest rated album of this subgenre.  With the top-two Canterbury albums, Caravan pwns. 
 
Experimental/Post-Rock: Ulver at is the fourth E/PR band listed with "Perdition City," and is the 6th highest rated album of this subgenre. However, it doesn't quite make the 500 overall (all genres) top albums list.  With 2nd, 3rd, and 5th best album, Sigur Ros dominates the top 5 of this subgenre (but Godspeed You Black Emperor has 3 in the top ten including the number one spot).  'Experimental' hardly dominates the site though.
 
Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Codona at is the fourth IP/RR band listed with "Codona 3" and is the 5th highest rated album of this subgenre.  "Codona 3"  is the second album in my poll list which is not represented in the "all-genre" top-500 favourites list.  With the top-two IP/RR albums, Shakti with John McLaughlin pwns. Unfortunately, they don't pwn the top 500 it seems, as S w/ JM, the most popular of the subgenre here, do not seem to be represented in the top 500.
 
Italian Symphonic Prog: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso takes fourth band position with "Darwin!." It's at number 5 on the ISP top list and at 114 in the "all genres" favourites list.  PFM has baked the roll with the two top albums in ISP, but you can bank on Banco as they have 3 in the top 10.
 
Jazz Rock/Fusion: Bill Bruford's at 4th best with "One of a Kind."  The album ranks at 167 over-all ("all genres"), and is ranked at  6 on the JR/F top list.  In a well-orchestrated move?, Mahavishnu Orchestra pwns this category with the top two albums.
 
Krautrock: Popol Vuh is the 4th listed band with "Tantric Songs."  In the "all-genres" category it ranks very low at 489, and is ranked much higher at 5th place in the Krautrock top progressive albums list.  Happened again... Having the top two Krautrock albums, Can kicks the other Krautrockers with a one-two punch (oops, mixed metaphor). 
 
Neo-Prog: Arena is the 4th listed neo-prog band with "Visitor."  The album's at 124 overall (all progarchives genres) and is number 5 in neo-prog specifically.  Marillion, with albums in the 1,2,8,9,10,11,16 neo-prog category spots is the top 20 favourite.  However, IQ at 3,7,12,14,15 and 21 gives the band a run for its money.
 
Progressive Folk:  Mostly Autumn is the 4th listed progressive folk band with "The Last Bright Light."  The album ranks at 148 on the "all genres" favourites list, and is down at 8 on the PF chart primarily due to Jethro Tull pwning this category.  Once again, a band, this time Tull, has the number 1 and 2 album spots, but Tull has also the 4, 6, 10, 11, 12, 14, and 18 spots in the prog folk category. Pwnd!
 
Prog Related: Kate Bush is the 4th name mentioned in the PR category for "Hounds of Love."  Overall (all subgenres) it's ranked at 143, and as 5th most popular album in PR.  Ever the diva, Queen must be the center-of-attention and so, in the of four, holds the second and third position, thereby burning Bush a little badly, sadly.
 
Progressive Electronic: With "Phaedra," Tangerine Dream is the fourth PE band listed.  In th "all genres" favourites list it's at 316, and in fifth position on the PE albums list.  Once again a band takes the top two positions, this time it's Kraftwerk, but no band really pwns this category as the top twenty is dominated by several bands including Tangerine Dream and Klaus  Schulze (1/3 of the top 30 are Tangerine Dream).
 
Progresive Metal: the band Riverside and their album "Second Life Syndrome" both come in at number 4 on the PM list. It ranks at 34 on the "all genres" top faves list.  With albums at 1, 6, and 10, Dream Theater dominates the top ten PM bands album list, but Opeth and Pain of Salvation are duking it out with DT in the top twenty.
 
Proto-Prog: Touch is the fourth PP bandname listed.  On the top 500 list here (all genres), the self-titled album weighs in at 465.  For PG the album ranks at 8.  Deep Purple  is battling it out with the Beatles for PP domination.  In the top 20, Purple has albums ranked 1,5,6,15, 16, 20.  The Beatles have the 2,4,7,8, and 11 positions. The Moody Blues with albums ranked 3, 13, 17, and 19 are in the fray, and Procol Harum is a making a strong showing.
 
Psychadelic/Space Rock: Eloy is the fourth listed band in this category with their album "Ocean."  Ranked rather low at 154 in the "all genres" most popular list, it's listed only at 12 in the P/SR specific category because only Pink Floyd and Porcupine Tree got into the top ten.  Gotta say that Pink Floyd is pwning this category, though Porcupine Tree (I'd thought they were more prog-related) is making a strong showing against the Pink-monster.  
 
RIO/Avant-Prog: Thinking Plague takes 4th band position with "In Extremis."  For all-genres the album is ranked down at 183, and in R/AP it's at 6.  Clearly Frank Zappa zaps the other bands in this category with album positions at 1,2,3,8,9,11,12,19,20,21,23,25,27,37,35,and 46 in the top 50.
 
Symphonic Prog: Anglagard is the fourth band mentioned in the SP category with "Hybris."  Over-all (all genres) the album is ranked at 27, and in the SP list "Hybris" is at 11.  Yes and Genesis pwn this major prog category.  In the top 25, Yes has albums in the 1, 5, 7, 14, 22 and number 24 spots, while Genesis, even more impressively, has albums ranked at 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 19, 20 and 23 for this category and for "all genres" they make a pretty impressive showing too, of course.  Even the mighty ELP gets clobbered by Genesis and Yes at this site.  Genesis and Yes fans are strong in the force it seems.
 
Zeuhl: Koenjihyakket is the fourth band down in the Zeuhl list with "2." (ni) The album is ranked in the Zeuhl most popular list at 8, but it only ranks at 454 in the "all genres" most popular albums list.  Depite not having the top-ranked album, Magma, hardly surprisingly, dominates this category.  With albums (I have included boxsets for the artists) at 3, 5, 6, 9, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 35, 28, 31, 32, 33, and 34 not only have these molten-rock guys been volcanic in the way they've spewed out albums, these guys pwn Zeuhl.


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Think I'll go with good old Gentle Giant
here.  It's a safe bet.  Always had a thing for Kate Bush myself, by the way.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:18
OK, I went for Kate Bush and her marvellous "Hounds of Love" - with GG ranking as close seconds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:23
KOENJIHYAKKEI for me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:23
LOL
Wow...i must say this is an original idea for a poll.
 
In any case...tough call but i think i'll go for the Giant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:28
Rather easy decision with Gentle Giant. I like most of the other bands but they really don't compare.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:45
Yup, for a 'fourth-rate' band, Gentle Giant are truly first-rate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:53
Anglagard is phenomenal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 03:56
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

<>Krautrock: Popol Vuh is the 4th listed band with "Tantric Songs."  In the "all-genres" category it ranks very low at 489, and is ranked much higher at 5th place in the Krautrock top progressive albums list.  Happened again... Having the top two Krautrock albums, Can kicks the other Krautrockers with a one-two punch (oops, mixed metaphor).

Embryo, Amon Düül 2 or Guru Guru have quite a punch themselves. Albums like "Känguru", "Tanz der Lemminge" or "Rocksession" are on the same level as the best Can albums. And that was just naming one album each of the bands in question.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 04:16
haha, that's a good one

i voted for ulver, not for a specific album, but rther for their long term activity, since i'm just not into gentle giant and even though i like anglagard, it just doesn't touch me as much; arena would've probabely been a close runner-up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 07:36
I love Gentle Giant and the Softs (especially 'Volume Two'), I've never heard Anglagard (to my regret!), but as far as I know, none of the chaps you mention have ever done anything as marvellous as Bill Bruford!   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 08:07
Arena is the only band on this list that is represented in my CD tower.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 08:17
Voted for Ulver who released Perdition City, but I am very keen on GG, Banco del... and Anglagard as well.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 08:23
not sure if you are looking for group...or the album mentioned in your post...so...


the groups... Gentle Giant of course.


the albums....Popol Vuh - Tantric Songs.... I LOVE that album. Slight edge over Darwin which is not  my favorite BdMS album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 08:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 08:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 10:00
Just to avoid GG, who are obvious winners, I'm going with Mostly Autumn.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 10:01
Actually, come to think of it, I realy find "The Last Bright Light" better than any GG I've heard. Again, if I put my mind to it, I am having a hard time finding any album better than "The Last Bright Light"...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 10:03
Gentle Giant.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2006 at 10:30

A toss between Kate Bush and Tangerine Dream. Gentle Giant comes third.

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