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Logan 
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 Topic: Most complex, challenging, original neo-prog band?
Posted: July 05 2006 at 16:08 |
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Hi, I admit I'm not a big fan of neo-prog bands... yet. But I
still haven't heard nearly enough to have a strong opinion.
I am genuinely quite ignorant about neo-prog music.
Which band would you recommend most for those into challenging,
complex, intelligent and ground-breaking progressive rock music?
Basically bands that blew the roof off of the progressive music scene,
turned it on its head, turned it inside out, and brought prog to a
whole new level that is so dizzyingly high that even prog-astronauts
flying merely by the seat-of-their-pants would suffer terrible
vertigo? I mean stuff so sophisticated that even the most wordly
and erudite doctors of prog risk collapsing in an aurally-induced coma
due to the technical and artistic wizardy they have been subjected
to. You know, stuff so mind-blowing that casual listeners risk
having a nuclear explosion going off in their heads thus splattering
bits of grey matter over a five mile radius.
Or if that seems a bit extreme, hyperbole-wise, neo-prog bands that
brought the most progression to the prog genre. The neo-prog
band, that in your opinion, most boldly progressed to where no prog
band had gone before. (sorry about the Trek reference since
Spock's Bored [sic] is listed as symph).
I guess Marillion is a most obvious choce for progressing prog as they
were instrumental (haha pun intended) in kick-starting the new prog
movement. But since I have listed various criteria, they may may not be
the best choice over-all.
IQ: another early neo-prog band and possible my favourite, has, namely-speaking, intelligence as a major part of the quotient. Is IQ high or low brow progwise to you?
Tsunami: never heard these guys, but have they rideen the biggest wave on the tide of the new prog, or a washout?
Visible Wind: Never heard these guys either, but I love the name.
Did they ride on the winds of progress or did they blow? Noxious
fumes, a breath of fresh air, or full of hot air? Did an ill wind
breaketh and bloweth? Did they literally blow [out] chunks and
that's why the wind is visible, or was it just dust in the wind?
More artsy or fartsy? Why is the wind visible, and is it
metaphorical? Sorry, I digress.
Evolution: well there's a progressive name if there ever was one.
Progressive music must evolve to remain progressive, I quite agree.
And like-wise, judging by name alone, I suppose Magus might be
considered the true wizard of neo-prog though i'm sure there's pleanty
of magic out there in neo-prog land.
Anyway, like to hear your thoughts.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 16:11 |
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IQ followed by Satellite. Marillion with Fish is great too.
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 17:16 |
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IQ, Marillon, Pendragon, Iluvatar (In this Order)
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SMR....
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The Wizard
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 17:19 |
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Marilllion, they are truly original and exciting. They're pretty much the only neo-prog I listen to and like.
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 18:04 |
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Marillion for me, too. Without a doubt, they can rival any band as being innovative and unique. I'm talking about the Hogarth era, too. Anyone who says that the Fish era is more unique need only to listen and watch Fish's best Gabriel impersonation. Hogarth copied nobody.
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 18:16 |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 18:20 |
TWELFTH NIGHT BY FAR, Fact And Fiction is one of the most original neo-prog rock albums of all times  !
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 18:45 |
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Galleon is really great, quite obscure though.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 19:02 |
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I just voted for the band I like, Discipline.
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 19:32 |
Orignial: Marillion or IQ
Complex: Sanes
Challenging: Depends on how you define challenging, but Saens probably wins.
Overall: Saens,
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 19:34 |
 Logan wrote:
Visible Wind: Never heard these guys either, but I love the name. Did they ride on the winds of progress or did they blow? Noxious fumes, a breath of fresh air, or full of hot air? Did an ill wind breaketh and bloweth? Did they literally blow [out] chunks and that's why the wind is visible, or was it just dust in the wind? More artsy or fartsy? Why is the wind visible, and is it metaphorical? Sorry, I digress. |
I don't have any of their albums, but on their website I've listened to some of their songs. They're not terrible or amazing, but I'd put them on the level of Twelfth Night (for me 3/5 as a band rating) barring hearing Narcissus goes to the Moon or the debut.
Edited by stonebeard - July 05 2006 at 19:38
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 20:30 |
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Marillion!!
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 20:45 |
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I'll pick Marillion
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 23:01 |
Arena are too underrated, I think most people don't even know them well but they just put in the same box with all the other supposed "Neo-Prog" bands.
In the beggining Arena may have been very similar in style to bands like Marillion and maybe Genesis, but since the "The Visitor" album, they have forged their own style (just listen to songs like "The Hanging Tree" or "The Butterfly Man", I haven't heard any other bands doing things like that). And the almost 20 minute epic "Moviedrome" is espectacular, and in my opinion one of the most coherent, and best composed songs of this prog-repeated length in the history of prog rock.
Pepper's Ghost, may not be the best example of this, since I consider it to be one of the lesser Arena albums, but listen to the essential albums: The Visitor, Immortal? and Contagion. These albums are all excellent in quality and are worth being considered among the best that prog rock has produced after the 70's.
And plus, Clive Nolan writes some of the best lyrics I've ever read in my life, by any band.
The category "Neo-Prog" is just another stupid prejudice in the end, like all category's, genre's and labels.
"Label me, and you deny me." That's what I think.
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 00:24 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
TWELFTH NIGHT BY FAR, Fact And Fiction is one of the most original neo-prog rock albums of all times ! |
I second this. Great album.
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 00:46 |
stonebeard wrote:
Orignial: Marillion or IQ
Complex: Sanes
Challenging: Depends on how you define challenging, but Saens probably wins.
Overall: Saens, |
Sanes?? 
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 00:48 |
memowakeman wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Orignial: Marillion or IQ
Complex: Sanes
Challenging: Depends on how you define challenging, but Saens probably wins.
Overall: Saens, |
Sanes?? |
You're totally fugazi! 
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stonebeard
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 00:51 |
Dorsalia wrote:
Arena are too underrated, I think most people don't even know them well but they just put in the same box with all the other supposed "Neo-Prog" bands.
In the beggining Arena may have been very similar in style to bands like Marillion and maybe Genesis, but since the "The Visitor" album, they have forged their own style (just listen to songs like "The Hanging Tree" or "The Butterfly Man", I haven't heard any other bands doing things like that). And the almost 20 minute epic "Moviedrome" is espectacular, and in my opinion one of the most coherent, and best composed songs of this prog-repeated length in the history of prog rock.
Pepper's Ghost, may not be the best example of this, since I consider it to be one of the lesser Arena albums, but listen to the essential albums: The Visitor, Immortal? and Contagion. These albums are all excellent in quality and are worth being considered among the best that prog rock has produced after the 70's.
And plus, Clive Nolan writes some of the best lyrics I've ever read in my life, by any band.
The category "Neo-Prog" is just another stupid prejudice in the end, like all category's, genre's and labels.
"Label me, and you deny me." That's what I think.
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Personally, I've always though The Visitor, Immortal? and Contagion were too dark and too close to meodern rock (except Movidrome, of course and several exceptions here and there). I much prefer the Pendragon-esque sweeping style of music earlier on.
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 00:57 |
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MARILLION
Pendragon
Collage
Carptree...
in this order...
Love and Peace----
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razifa
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 01:36 |
Satellite is original and tasteful. Complex? Well, this is not Magma nor Zero Hour but Satellite is a band with a defying and relaxing sound and I think making this high quality music is not easy, so I think Satellite is Complex.
Defying? Indeed one of the most defying bands in Neo-prog world!! Highly recommended for Symphonic Prog lovers!!!
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