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Kleynan 
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 Topic: Kubrick or Lynch?
Posted: June 15 2006 at 05:26 |
So? I've found myself watching their movies alot lately. When I was younger I figured their movies to be merely made by junkies exploring the surreal. It is true: they explore the surreal, but now I know there is usally a hidden message (or many) contained within their movies.
Which director do you prefer?
Stanley Kubrick (Dr. Strangelove, 2001 A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, Eyes Wide Shut and Barry Lyndon)
David Lynch (Eraserhead, The Elephant Man, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Mullholland Drive, tv-series Twin Peaks and Wild at Heart)
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nicoguitar
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 05:33 |
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I think that A Space Odyssey of Kubrick is an absolute materpiece...
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Kleynan
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 05:46 |
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"A Space Odyssey" and "Eyes Wide Shut" are Kubricks best in my opinion.
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krusty
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 06:16 |
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I prefer Lynch overall but I also love Dr. Stranglove and 2001... two great movies.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 06:58 |
Kubrick easily
I think Lynch is a fake a,d his artsy farsty movies are highly flawed
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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Kleynan
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 07:15 |
 Sean Trane wrote:
Kubrick easily
I think Lynch is a fake a,d his artsy farsty movies are highly flawed |
I do not agree. Even Kubrick has stated, that "Eraserhead" by Lynch, is his favorite movie of all time.
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Paul K.
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:08 |
Being a big cinema fan, Kubrick easily gets my vote.
After few years of consideration, I've figured that Lynch isn't all that fake, he actually works with archetypes - you may not sure what movie about, but it somehow appeals to you (well, at least to me  ). Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
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YYZed
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:12 |
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Space Odyssey is one of the most magnificent and influential pieces of 20th century art. Kubrick easily, and not just for 2001. Most of his other movies are worth seeing.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:22 |
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Unique artists and I love both. Seen all Lynch's (whom I voted for)
films, and still waiting for that complete Twin Peaks DVD release to
happen. Wild at Heart and Barry Lyndon are two great and important
films not mentioned.
My two favorites by them are: The Shining (or Dr. Strangelove) and Mulholland Drive (or Eraserhead)
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In the sunlight, see - it flashes
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Firepuck
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:26 |
singing in the rain...
I voted Kubrick
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:39 |
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Chalk up another vote for Kubrick. Clockwork Orange and Eyes Wide Shut were cool films. The Space Odyssey film was ok.
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horza
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:41 |
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Apart from Spartacus its Lynch for me - close call though.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:42 |
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I find all of Kubrick's movies vastly overrated except for A Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket.
I am a Sci-Fi nut..but think 2001 is the most boring movie I have ever seen.Visually stunning,but it just does NOTHING for me.
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Kleynan
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:00 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Unique artists and I love both. Seen all Lynch's (whom I voted for) films, and still waiting for that complete Twin Peaks DVD release to happen. Wild at Heart and Barry Lyndon are two great and important films not mentioned.
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Empathy
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:06 |
Another Kubrick lover here! 
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Pure Brilliance:
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cuncuna
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:12 |
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Both. But I have a preference for Fellini over them. Or mr. Kusturica, who is not prog related or prog folk, by the way.
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Bastille Dude
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 17:18 |
I love both Kubrick and Lynch, but I have to say I love Kubrick more.
I used to work in a video store when "Eyes wide shut" came out on video, I would ask the customers returning the copy they rented how they liked it, Every single one said they hated it. I always thought that although not perfect or as good as some of Kubrick's classics, it was a very good movie.
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 06:17 |
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Both unique directors, but I think Kubrick has the edge. Too many Lynch projects seem surreal for the sake of it.
Kubricks best = 2001, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket
Lynch's best = Dune, Wild at Heart, The Elephant Man
..imo
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 06:57 |
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I like them almost equally, but Lynch maybe a little bit more. Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead (see avatar) are his best movies, I think.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 07:57 |
Paul K. wrote:
Being a big cinema fan, Kubrick easily gets my vote.
After few years of consideration, I've figured that Lynch isn't all that fake, he actually works with archetypes - you may not sure what movie about, but it somehow appeals to you (well, at least to me ). Sometimes it works, sometimes not. |
Actually I started the opposite girection: I decided that Lynch's cheap style of making movies was due to the lack of finances at first , but as time went on I realized Lynch was all hype and not much substance.
Stylised movies making is one thing (I love Lelouch, even if he makes dud movies, his style is inimtable) , but in Lynch's case he makes B series movies his own private style, even with an a-style budget. His movies are purposely strange with odd characters and uncomplete stories to force the spectator that did not get it all saying that it is their fault for not understanding Lynch's concept. Whereas it should be the opposite, the spectator should say that Lynch is not able to make a correct movie.
Jim Jarmusch's B-style movies are so much better Lynch's
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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