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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2006 at 08:57
Originally posted by Rust Rust wrote:

The power of prog must have crashed your i-pod. I'm sure Apple had pop music in mind when making them.
 
 
 
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This is entirely possible.  perhaps the thick instrumentation and long tracks taxed its poor little brain to the breaking point....


or maybe it was just a piece of sh*t.

I'm considering going the flash memory route as soon as i have some cash, but I don't want the ipod version, but I'd like a good bit of room on it.  Guess I'll have to shop around.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2006 at 18:34
Comon people CD players are so prog, Itunes & Ipods and god knows are for normal mainstream rap lisening people. Real prog rockers have cd players. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 03:02
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Comon people CD players are so prog, Itunes & Ipods and god knows are for normal mainstream rap lisening people. Real prog rockers have cd players. Thumbs Up


I thought that the REAL prog rockers have portable vinyl players!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 03:10
I have a iriver H320 and its been problem free for over 1 year. I like they way its easy to use and there is no need to mess around with itunes.
 
 
I am glad to say that there are no rap, techno or pop songs on it, minus Vangelis.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 03:22
    I was hesitant to go the iPod route, and thought my mp3/cd player was just fine. I broke down and got the 20 gig model last year, and I love it. I've had no problems. The battery isn't holding the charge as long, but I got a battery pack (that acts like a charger) from battery geek. I don't drive, so I walk, bicycle, bus, etc. In other words, I use it all the time. It's so nice to have so much music, without all the bulk. No changing discs either.
     Why shouldn't we prog people use them? The pop fans like the little ones, because they listen to the same lame songs over and over again. The key there also being songs, not albums. So I say, put pressure on Steve Jobs to make these things reliable, and have big enough drives for our epic musical masterpieces.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 03:30
Steven Wilson has spoken out against iPod culture, listener playlists and shuffle features on numerous occasions. Playing Deadwing on your iPod was asking for trouble. Send Steve a wedge of cash for a nice slab of limited edition vinyl and pray for forgiveness.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 07:38
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Viajero Astral Viajero Astral wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:



  • No freezing
  • No software
  • No charging
  • No quality loss
  • no memory problems
  • $35
Wink



Oliver would be proudLOL

 
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A MP3 CD player with a CD-RW were you can burn a lot of mp3 files is a good combination

That's true - I had one before I got my MP3 player, but people give you funny looks on the train to work when you get a CD player out. It's now the equivalent of a wind-up gramophone with a horn.LOL
And they don't give you the same look when they find out you're listening to prog? LOL
Ah, well they don't find out! Mind you, nobody would have heard of half the bands I listen to. I did once meet a fellow Yes fan who recognised my copy of "The Ladder", so there are some prog fans in Essex.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 07:50
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:




  • No freezing
  • No software
  • No charging
  • No quality loss
  • no memory problems
  • $35


add these points:

  • Heavy
  • Doesn't fit in your pocket -> need to carry a bag
  • Error Prone - useless when jogging or mountain-biking
  • Need to  carry around a pair of extra batteries
  • Only one disc at a time ... or you need to carry a pack of discs additionally, making it even more cumbersome




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:




  • No freezing
  • No software
  • No charging
  • No quality loss
  • no memory problems
  • $35


add these points:

  • Heavy >> what's 300 Gr
  • Doesn't fit in your pocket -> need to carry a bag  >> not really fits into my inside pocket of my Jeans jacket
  • Error Prone - useless when jogging or mountain-biking >> does not like many bumps but has a 45 seconds memory >> also dangerous to mountain bike, bike or jog wioth those on and anyway who wants to listen to music while mountainn biking
  • Need to  carry around a pair of extra batteries  > Duracell last enough not to worry about this
  • Only one disc at a time ... or you need to carry a pack of discs additionally, making it even more cumbersome >> unless in a train , I never use the small headphones for mlore than the duration of one disc.


More cumbersome I agree, but I feel no need to be around the bloody portable music player anytime, anyplace, anyhow etc....

 
What I think it must come down to is the use you have from these portable music players. Let's face it, I love music and cannot imagine wanting to listen to it in many cases where I could not pay attention to it.

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:23
^ I love to go cycling, listening to music all the time. I usually cycle alongside a river next to my place, 60 minutes tops. It's a meditative thing - I even wear a pulse monitor, maintaining 140 heartbeats per minute. It's a meditative experience, and with the right music - some Porcupine Tree, Electronic Music, Ozric Tentacles, Pink Floyd etc. it's really great! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:33
Originally posted by DrGoon DrGoon wrote:

Steven Wilson has spoken out against iPod culture, listener playlists and shuffle features on numerous occasions. Playing Deadwing on your iPod was asking for trouble. Send Steve a wedge of cash for a nice slab of limited edition vinyl and pray for forgiveness.


my bad.  I wasn't aware of this. 

I'm actually starting to get suspicious of the fact that my particular ipod was one of the ones manufactured by Hewlett Packard to help Apple meet the high demand, so my warranty and tech support was all done through HP, not apple.  My roommate has one of the Apple manufactured ones and hasnt had a bit of trouble with it.

still, I'm wary now of the whole ipod thing, but I do need some small portable solution to my music addiction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 09:46
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I love to go cycling, listening to music all the time. I usually cycle alongside a river next to my place, 60 minutes tops. It's a meditative thing - I even wear a pulse monitor, maintaining 140 heartbeats per minute. It's a meditative experience, and with the right music - some Porcupine Tree, Electronic Music, Ozric Tentacles, Pink Floyd etc. it's really great! 
 
How about traffic and other dangers >> you isolate yourself with headphones, you fy in some transcendental state while being particularly vulnerable target unaware of dangers around him...
 
I person ally think that headphones should be outlawed while on the move on the road.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:14
^ it's not a road. it's a straight pathway alongside the river, with no crossing roads and no dangers really, no motor vehicles allowed and both sides of the pathway are quite open, you can easily spot any problem (like playing children or dogs) and slow down. Actually quite many people use this "circuit" just like I do ...

Of course I agree that one should not wear headphones in normal traffic situations.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:10
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I love to go cycling, listening to music all the time. I usually cycle alongside a river next to my place, 60 minutes tops. It's a meditative thing - I even wear a pulse monitor, maintaining 140 heartbeats per minute. It's a meditative experience, and with the right music - some Porcupine Tree, Electronic Music, Ozric Tentacles, Pink Floyd etc. it's really great! 

 

How about traffic and other dangers >> you isolate yourself with headphones, you fy in some transcendental state while being particularly vulnerable target unaware of dangers around him...

 

I person ally think that headphones should be outlawed while on the move on the road.

    So should we outlaw car stereos as well then? Most people have those turned up so high that I can hear it inside my home. I have my music on wherever I may be riding. I never have it so loud that I cant hear what is happening around me. So, I've never had a problem, and I have put a lot of miles on my bike.
    Cell phones are a different story. I can't tell you how many times people have veered toward me because they were on the phone. And I have seen truly ridiculous people chatting it up while bicylcing.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

and with the right music - some Porcupine Tree, Electronic Music, Ozric Tentacles, Pink Floyd etc.


That is, in fact, the "right" music. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:36
Originally posted by Rust Rust wrote:

The power of prog must have crashed your i-pod. I'm sure Apple had pop music in mind when making them.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 16:12
As "proggers" I think it is our duty to progress into the new technology available today, such as mp3 players.
 
If we continue to use cd-players but ignore their obvious problems and annoyances without seeking a solution, it would be as if the music artists continued to use old technology that could be easily fixed, but they still choose not to because eveyrone else does it. It would be as if the artist in the mid seventies ignored the synths because they were new, and I think the ones that did use the new technology and synths made the right choice, i.e. Yes.
 
Prog is not just our music preference, it is our lifestyle, we all know it.
 
 
 
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Edited by Rust - June 13 2006 at 16:13
We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
from the heart
Its astart
What we need is awareness we cant get careless
Mental self defensive fitness
Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 16:22
^ Hear, Hear!

Rust for Global Prog Secretary of Audio Technology Advancement! Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 16:29
Embarrassed Thanks. That sounds like a very prestegous title.
 
The idea appeared to me while listening to some prog last night, and I thought, " Wow, that would make a good argument!"
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2006 at 16:34
It IS prestigious. In fact, it's the most prestigious title anywhere in this thread! Clown

Now, if you could only convince Steven Wilson that MP3 players aren't evil...
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