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el böthy 
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 Posted: June 09 2006 at 15:36 |
 Kord wrote:
I personally hate it (except Clash)... |
I also respect the Clash...and hate punk in general...
Well, lets not forget that real punk is dead...I mean, how exacly are todays "punk" band really punk? Green Day? Good Charlotte? Thouse b*****d sons from Mtv...???? C´moooooooon
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Pneubauer
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Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:14 |
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I voted disgusting... sure... some punk is probably good... some may even be very good... but theres SO MUCH bad stuff... and plus all the HORRIBLE little imps that punk spewed forth from its tainted womb... ie. pop punk, emo... and all that other... well... I cant really call it 'music'...
I just cant see the Clash as being punk... but if they are punk, then theyre the best damn punk band I know of.
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OrionCrystalIce
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Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:28 |
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Punk rock and the Internet are the biggest purveyors of bad bands to have ever existed. Reason being, typically, music comes from vision, fire, ambition, and punk rock + the WWW have told people they can still do music but without having any of these,.. rather, that they can pull it off with only so much as a guitar and a garage and nothing better to do. The so-called rebellion is a big mass conformist orgy of mediocrity and a mockery of music in all it's art forms - from the simplest to the most complex. Tom Petty is mostly three chords too, but Tom Petty has soul, purpose. The majority of punk bands and bands spawned from them do not. Furthermore, there's no "message", "energy", or "groove" that punk trips over that I can't find done better in other legitimate genres.
I dig the Clash.
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Toon
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Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:43 |
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I'm not really into punk bands such as the Sex Pistols or the Ramones but I do really like Post-Punk and some Proto-Punk bands.
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thellama73
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Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:44 |
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I don't really like the Ramones, but the Misfits and the Clash are fantastic.
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MustShaveBeard
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Posted: June 09 2006 at 21:03 |
I like punk; I think cacophony can be awesome, but punk fans and their 'anti-prog' opinions tend to annoy me. I think prog and punk have more in common then meets the eye; obviously not music-wise but in sensibilities. Instead of complaining about prog because they don't like it I think we both should unite against those who make music for purely commercial reasons, or at least let the others live their lives.
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Your life or your lupins!!!
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Kord
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 05:26 |
el böthy wrote:
Kord wrote:
I personally hate it (except Clash)... |
I also respect the Clash...and hate punk in general...
Well, lets not forget that real punk is dead...I mean, how exacly are todays "punk" band really punk? Green Day? Good Charlotte? Thouse b*****d sons from Mtv...???? C´moooooooon
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I agree...I think now there aren't the same condition of 1977 and there are not the same music businness, so punk now doesn't exist..it can't exist! Green Day and the others are in my opinion po rock band, following a punk attitude, but nothing more...they would like to be punk but they aren't...
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Paul K.
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 09:16 |
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Sometimes very interesting.
My personal favours are
Sex Pistols (essential punk)
Exploited (I like'em and can't help it)
Misfits (horror punk, very original IMO, and also I'm a big fan of horror)
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Weasels ripped my flesh
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Frasse
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:39 |
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Just a music genre among others. I don't like it that much but appearently millions of other people does.
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oracus
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 12:05 |
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There are good punk groups.. BUT most of the punk groups are a bunch of angry kids who recently got their guitars (See Sex Pistols or The Hives on their first record for example) and wants desperatly to make music.
So i like Dead Kennedys (They are pretty good), and some post-punk more sophisticated bands. The only thing that i like in Punk is the pure emotion (not all of them).
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The Miracle
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:08 |
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It's the worst plague to hit the music world.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:34 |
The Miracle wrote:
It's the worst plague to hit the music world. |
Have you heard of muzak, gangsta rap (not hip-hop), country, and pop divas?
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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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Syzygy
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:41 |
The Miracle wrote:
It's the worst plague to hit the music world. |
Given that your sig includes Mike Patton, John Zorn and Can, I can only assume you're being ironic. If you're not, messrs Zorn, Patton and Czukay would definitely disagree with you.
Edited by Syzygy - June 11 2006 at 14:41
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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micky
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:45 |
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punk rock... just another genre I guess
not my thing but I guess I can see the allure for the
disenfranchised.... the hopeless.... those whose mommies and daddies
didn't give them the time of day...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:59 |
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I don't mind the clash, I do really like Dead Kennedys tho, and I like some post-hardcore bands like Fugazi and Q and not U.
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Kord
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 05:04 |
The Miracle wrote:
It's the worst plague to hit the music world. |
ahah...You are great!!!
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bruin69
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 20:35 |
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Just another genre, which I hated when the press was hyping it up as the thing that killed prog - which I now realise is a much too simple explanation; prog had a lot of other commercial and artistic pressures to worry about. Now, I think some punk and post-punk is okay, but it could never replace prog in my affections.
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Barla
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 23:18 |
Just another musical genre ....
BUT THESE GUYS ROCK !!!
Edited by Barla - June 12 2006 at 23:19
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Kord
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 15:22 |
Barla wrote:
Just another musical genre ....
BUT THESE GUYS ROCK !!!
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I'm sorry, just an error:
"BUT THESE GUYS SUCKS!!!" (led zeppelin ROCK!)
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man@arms
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Posted: June 16 2006 at 16:03 |
It amazes me that the rock critics seem to embrace punk and all it stands for, while at the same time bashing prog. But, WE all know which bands actually have the talent and which are just hype. LONG LIVE PROG
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